[opensuse] Mozilla certainly has an apetite for memory...
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Sunday 2008-06-01 at 16:28 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
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Mem: 1036364k total, 1020736k used, 15628k free, 26500k buffers Swap: 12594880k total, 1186492k used, 11408388k free, 367220k cached
PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND 10513 cer 15 0 667m 118m 17m S 1.0 11.7 190:50.12 firefox-bin
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Most of it swapped out, fortunately. Probably holes.
I have been several days opening and closing windows in Firefox. A moment ago, I opened a new one (http://localhost/server-info), and closed the rest. And: PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND 10513 cer 15 0 643m 111m 16m R 0.7 11.0 248:42.04 firefox-bin It is still using more than half a gigabyte? Why doesn't mozilla return all that unused memory? Is that /good/ memory management? Oh my! :-/ - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFIRcp5tTMYHG2NR9URAhJHAJ9OS0yFsrNMAbqY9ga/Nqc+127oSwCffIPo AZOyNJP7Ov/PSG+b+I5tIWU= =w/Rx -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 6:49 PM, Carlos E. R.
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The Sunday 2008-06-01 at 16:28 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
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Mem: 1036364k total, 1020736k used, 15628k free, 26500k buffers Swap: 12594880k total, 1186492k used, 11408388k free, 367220k cached
PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND 10513 cer 15 0 667m 118m 17m S 1.0 11.7 190:50.12 firefox-bin
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Most of it swapped out, fortunately. Probably holes.
I have been several days opening and closing windows in Firefox. A moment ago, I opened a new one (http://localhost/server-info), and closed the rest. And:
PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND 10513 cer 15 0 643m 111m 16m R 0.7 11.0 248:42.04 firefox-bin
It is still using more than half a gigabyte? Why doesn't mozilla return all that unused memory? Is that /good/ memory management?
Oh my! :-/
I'm running FF 3.0 rc1 doing lots of gmail / calendar / etc.. Seems about the same (or slightly more: 779m virt 273m res 16m shr). I thought it was supposed to be a lot better than 2.0? Or are you running rc1 as well? FYI: I'm at 236 hours, so just behind you. I don't know that FF2 would have been stable for 10 days for me. So I suspect you are running rc1 or not using as much javascript as I do. Greg -- Greg Freemyer Litigation Triage Solutions Specialist http://www.linkedin.com/in/gregfreemyer First 99 Days Litigation White Paper - http://www.norcrossgroup.com/forms/whitepapers/99%20Days%20whitepaper.pdf The Norcross Group The Intersection of Evidence & Technology http://www.norcrossgroup.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Tuesday 2008-06-03 at 19:14 -0400, Greg Freemyer wrote:
PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND 10513 cer 15 0 643m 111m 16m R 0.7 11.0 248:42.04 firefox-bin
It is still using more than half a gigabyte? Why doesn't mozilla return all that unused memory? Is that /good/ memory management?
Oh my! :-/
I'm running FF 3.0 rc1 doing lots of gmail / calendar / etc..
Seems about the same (or slightly more: 779m virt 273m res 16m shr). I thought it was supposed to be a lot better than 2.0? Or are you running rc1 as well?
No, right now I'm on plain 10.3. One of the pages I had opened uses a lot of javascript, and another has some other type of script.
FYI: I'm at 236 hours, so just behind you. I don't know that FF2 would have been stable for 10 days for me. So I suspect you are running rc1 or not using as much javascript as I do.
Those hours are cpu times, I think, not uptime. Look: PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND 9683 root 15 0 141m 41m 5648 S 6.0 4.1 217:56.24 X 9857 cer 16 0 169m 23m 4264 R 0.7 2.4 8:37.10 gnome-terminal 9856 cer 15 0 19880 2996 2076 S 1.0 0.3 37:43.40 gkrellm 9835 cer 15 0 43424 6220 4372 S 0.3 0.6 22:59.25 metacity All those apps (inc FF) have been running the same time, they have similar PIDs. But the time shown by top is much lower, so it has to be cpu time. Firefox is also cpu hungry, it seems. Anyhow, that firefox has been opened for a long time, almost all my session time. Let me see: nimrodel:/otros/test_b # ac --individual-totals cer cer 11266.68 total 11266.68 Minutes, hours? Minutes, I guess. Then that's 187 hours, or almost 8 days. By the way, I don't understand why a terminal has to use '169m' either... there a are a lot of memory hungry apps around. Even if that terminal has 16 tabs opened. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFIReR1tTMYHG2NR9URApJ2AJ9IujgoKuSUdCS8a/sHT4npCwRR9QCcCDT9 SngBvzbPi1S+w2GGD8oD0wM= =4Ebw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 2008/06/04 00:49 (GMT+0200) Carlos E. R. apparently typed:
The Sunday 2008-06-01 at 16:28 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
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Mem: 1036364k total, 1020736k used, 15628k free, 26500k buffers Swap: 12594880k total, 1186492k used, 11408388k free, 367220k cached
PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND 10513 cer 15 0 667m 118m 17m S 1.0 11.7 190:50.12 firefox-bin
Most of it swapped out, fortunately. Probably holes.
I have been several days opening and closing windows in Firefox. A moment ago, I opened a new one (http://localhost/server-info), and closed the rest. And:
PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND 10513 cer 15 0 643m 111m 16m R 0.7 11.0 248:42.04 firefox-bin
It is still using more than half a gigabyte? Why doesn't mozilla return all that unused memory? Is that /good/ memory management?
Check and see if the consumption fault is in flash-player. I keep trunk builds of SM up 24/7. I just restarted the whole 10.2 system yesterday after 8 days up for SM and 88 days up for the system and SM was totally reasonable at that point. But, I stopped allowing SM to know about flash-player several months ago. Before then, SM was quite a pig after several days of uptime unless I had managed to avoid letting any Flash load. FF3 I don't keep open long enough to know any trends even though I let it & FF2 load Flash. -- ". . . . in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you . . . ." Matthew 7:12 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Tuesday 2008-06-03 at 21:28 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
Check and see if the consumption fault is in flash-player. I keep trunk builds of SM up 24/7. I just restarted the whole 10.2 system yesterday after 8 days up for SM and 88 days up for the system and SM was totally reasonable at that point. But, I stopped allowing SM to know about flash-player several months ago. Before then, SM was quite a pig after several days of uptime unless I had managed to avoid letting any Flash load.
I have flash disabled, using... I forgot the name, we commented it here. What I notice now if that, even if it is using that much memory, and that most of it has to be swapped out (I only have 1 GiB ram, and almost half half of it is used in cache and buffers), the system doesn't feel sluggish. Before I stopped flash from running, on other occasions, the system did feel slow. My feeling is that FF is leaving holes of memory freed that can not be reused. The window is closed, the memory is freed, somehow, but maybe it is fragmented or something and it can not be given back to the OS or reused. Something like that, I don't know that much about Linux memory management. It does show that swap has it uses, though... without it that memory would be ram. Before I restarted FF a while ago I had about 1.3 GiB swapped, and now about .7
FF3 I don't keep open long enough to know any trends even though I let it & FF2 load Flash.
I haven't tried FF3 yet. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFIRfQktTMYHG2NR9URAiRXAJ98n7mJwDiMF3LV/zw13/GHffd3mgCeJgYH 3jI9EOiTFAzBDGZHxPlsXD0= =duLt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Carlos E. R. wrote:
My feeling is that FF is leaving holes of memory freed that can not be reused. The window is closed, the memory is freed, somehow, but maybe it is fragmented or something and it can not be given back to the OS or reused. Something like that, I don't know that much about Linux memory management.
That's not just your feeling but one of the main causes for the memory usage of Firefox prior to version 3. Firefox 3 fixes many things causing that behaviour. I suggest http://blog.pavlov.net/2008/03/11/firefox-3-memory-usage/ Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Carlos E. R. wrote:
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The Sunday 2008-06-01 at 16:28 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
top extract:
Mem: 1036364k total, 1020736k used, 15628k free, 26500k buffers Swap: 12594880k total, 1186492k used, 11408388k free, 367220k cached
PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND 10513 cer 15 0 667m 118m 17m S 1.0 11.7 190:50.12 firefox-bin
·······················^^^^
Most of it swapped out, fortunately. Probably holes.
I have been several days opening and closing windows in Firefox. A moment ago, I opened a new one (http://localhost/server-info), and closed the rest. And:
PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND 10513 cer 15 0 643m 111m 16m R 0.7 11.0 248:42.04 firefox-bin
It is still using more than half a gigabyte? Why doesn't mozilla return all that unused memory? Is that /good/ memory management?
Memory caching of previously fetched pages. Yes both seamonkey and firefox are memory hogs.
Oh my! :-/
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