At our (austinlug) BYOB (bring your own box) event Saturday, I did three installs of Mandrake 7. It is slik. So slik in fact that I changed my main machine to Drake right away. The installer set up sound, scanner, and ide cdrom burner with absolutly no input from me, aside from telling it I would like to use the cdburner. X, network, and ftape only took minimal input. I guess I am trying to say that I am trading the SuSE list in for a Mandrake one for now. This is and has always been the friendliest and most helpfull list around, and I will miss you all. I will do waht I can to maintain the same decorum on the Mandrake list. I just really do not have the time for two high volume lists. Thanks again, and Have some fun at my expense if you want.. -- Michael H. Collins http://www.linuxlink.com Admiral of OpenSourcery Penguinista Navy All Things French.. Mandrake and XFCE Fun with the Austin Linux group http://www.austinlug.org Need a Real Texas Radio Fix? http://www.texasrebelradio.com -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
Hi, On Mon, 12 Jun 2000, Michael H. Collins wrote:
At our (austinlug) BYOB (bring your own box) event Saturday, I did three installs of Mandrake 7. It is slik. So slik in fact that I changed my main machine to Drake right away.
The installer set up sound, scanner, and ide cdrom burner with absolutly no input from me, aside from telling it I would like to use the cdburner.
X, network, and ftape only took minimal input.
I guess I am trying to say that I am trading the SuSE list in for a Mandrake one for now.
This is sad! We will miss you. Was it really only the installer that made you switch? How many times a day do you install a system?
This is and has always been the friendliest and most helpfull list around, and I will miss you all. I will do waht I can to maintain the same decorum on the Mandrake list.
Good luck on that!
I just really do not have the time for two high volume lists.
I can imagine that :)
Thanks again, and Have some fun at my expense if you want..
Nah! Thanks for all your comments and postings. We will miss you! Bye, LenZ -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Lenz Grimmer SuSE GmbH mailto:grimmer@suse.de Schanzaeckerstr. 10 http://www.suse.de/~grimmer 90443 Nuernberg, Germany -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
Hi All & Michael, who wrote; <snip>
At our (austinlug) BYOB (bring your own box) event Saturday, I did three installs of Mandrake 7. It is slik. So slik in fact that I changed my main machine to Drake right away.
The installer set up sound, scanner, and ide cdrom burner with absolutly no input from me, aside from telling it I would like to use the cdburner.
X, network, and ftape only took minimal input.
I guess I am trying to say that I am trading the SuSE list in for a Mandrake one for now.
This is and has always been the friendliest and most helpfull list around, and I will miss you all. I will do waht I can to maintain the same decorum on the Mandrake list.
I just really do not have the time for two high volume lists.
Thanks again, and Have some fun at my expense if you want..
<snip> I have to agree with you, because my experience is so close to yours. But, I've still got SuSE 6.3 on my desktop & Mandrake 7.0 on the Laptop. Thanx for your contribs to the list & we are all for Tux deep down.... :-) Greek Geek :-) Newlan's Truism: An "acceptable" level of unemployment means that the government economist to whom it is acceptable still has a job. -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
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apropos Mandrake, I agree with the reliability and smoothness of Mandrake installation, anyway just to share with you yesterday night I checked my HDs behaviour with the 3 distro (Man default kernel, 61 2.2.14 self kernel, 64 default kernel). The throughput of my two disks (hdparm -t /dev/hdx) with Man70, SuSE61, SuSE64 gave me something like: 3,5MB/sec, 7MB/ses, 11MB/sec for Quantum7.6GB and something less for my IBM4.3 Ciao, Stefano Greek Geek wrote:
Hi All & Michael,
who wrote;
<snip>
At our (austinlug) BYOB (bring your own box) event Saturday, I did three installs of Mandrake 7. It is slik. So slik in fact that I changed my main machine to Drake right away.
The installer set up sound, scanner, and ide cdrom burner with absolutly no input from me, aside from telling it I would like to use the cdburner.
X, network, and ftape only took minimal input.
I guess I am trying to say that I am trading the SuSE list in for a Mandrake one for now.
This is and has always been the friendliest and most helpfull list around, and I will miss you all. I will do waht I can to maintain the same decorum on the Mandrake list.
I just really do not have the time for two high volume lists.
Thanks again, and Have some fun at my expense if you want..
<snip>
I have to agree with you, because my experience is so close to yours. But, I've still got SuSE 6.3 on my desktop & Mandrake 7.0 on the Laptop.
Thanx for your contribs to the list & we are all for Tux deep down.... :-)
Greek Geek :-)
Newlan's Truism: An "acceptable" level of unemployment means that the government economist to whom it is acceptable still has a job.
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Hi there. I'd have to agree with you on that one - i've been using Mandrake for the past year, and there are many things I like about SuSE, but more that I love about Mandrake. For one thing, rpms are most often found in redhat-ready form, and mandrake happily works with those; the same can't be said for SuSE... I know I could dnld the tarred archives, but why think twice when you've got all the administration benefits of rpm. Then theres the pentium optimized packages - I mean, should pentium users be burdeoned by ancient 486-only optimizations? I feel SuSE should adopt a similar strategy - release a Pentium optimized ISO, and a conventional 486 edition. Well at least Mandrake's thoughtful enough.. Regards, Jason. On Mon, 12 Jun 2000, Michael H. Collins wrote:
At our (austinlug) BYOB (bring your own box) event Saturday, I did three installs of Mandrake 7. It is slik. So slik in fact that I changed my main machine to Drake right away.
The installer set up sound, scanner, and ide cdrom burner with absolutly no input from me, aside from telling it I would like to use the cdburner.
X, network, and ftape only took minimal input.
I guess I am trying to say that I am trading the SuSE list in for a Mandrake one for now.
This is and has always been the friendliest and most helpfull list around, and I will miss you all. I will do waht I can to maintain the same decorum on the Mandrake list.
I just really do not have the time for two high volume lists.
Thanks again, and Have some fun at my expense if you want..
-- Michael H. Collins http://www.linuxlink.com Admiral of OpenSourcery Penguinista Navy All Things French.. Mandrake and XFCE Fun with the Austin Linux group http://www.austinlug.org Need a Real Texas Radio Fix? http://www.texasrebelradio.com
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Hi just a few questions in relation to this posting, I appologise for my ignorance in advance. I am new to Linux about 6months into it, I have used a few distros and have found SuSE to be the most compliant with my working environ, seems to be a little quicker and stable than a few others I've used, with the exception of XFree86 4.0, but I will persevere, it is the first time I have tried installing XFree86 4.0 on any distro anyway. I find it is just a lot of little things SuSE does really well or just does, most stable I have found with KDE inclusive of setup.
I'd have to agree with you on that one - i've been using Mandrake for the past year, and there are many things I like about SuSE, but more that I love about Mandrake.
I had trouble trying to get the install started, mind you it was a iso I borrowed from someone that he burnt so it may have been contaminated.
For one thing, rpms are most often found in redhat-ready form, and mandrake happily works with those; the same can't be said for SuSE... I know I could dnld the tarred archives, but why think twice when you've got all the administration benefits of rpm.
I use yast and it seems to not have any problems thus far, and if there is it usuallly gives an answer on how to solve it.
Then theres the pentium optimized packages - I mean, should pentium users be burdeoned by ancient 486-only optimizations?
mine actually states that it is 2.2.14 (i586) is this not pentium optimised, my understanding it is. SuSE localhost home page in netscape. In output from XFree it states 2.2.14 i686 elf.
I feel SuSE should adopt a similar strategy - release a Pentium optimized ISO, and a conventional 486 edition. Well at least Mandrake's thoughtful enough..
I thought they had. Thanks -- Rob Davies rjdart@optusnet.com.au ICQ 10432219 "To converse is one strategy that separates us from the Apes." -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
>> For one thing, rpms are most often found in redhat-ready form, >> and mandrake happily works with those; the same can't be said >> for SuSE... I know I could dnld the tarred archives, but why >> think twice when you've got all the administration benefits of >> rpm. Unfortunately, the library names are different. As long as you know that you have to correct libraries install you can use the --nodeps option to install the package. I switch over fronm Redhat to SuSE when 6.0 came out and have yet to find a Redhat RPM that I can't use. Charles -- ===================================================== One Net to rule them all, One Net to find them, One Net to bring them all, and with Linux bind them. ===================================================== -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
* Charles Philip Chan
Unfortunately, the library names are different. As long as you know that you have to correct libraries install you can use the --nodeps option to install the package. I switch over fronm Redhat to SuSE when 6.0 came out and have yet to find a Redhat RPM that I can't use.
I have used several redhat RPMs successfully with no command line options (e.g., SDL, NEdit, XMMS, etc). The only difference at all that I have noticed is that the package documentation goes to /usr/doc instead of /usr/doc/packages. Can you give an example of what you mean? david. -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
Hi there. You'll have to forgive me for my arrogant nature, if in fact I am incorrect in stating the following comments. But, I only base these issues on real life experiences. The RPM problem is not really a problem, because SuSE often releases a SuSE ready RPM of just 'bout everything. But, an older SuSE manual does highlight this problem. It has do with file locations/naming conventions (if I recollect correctly) that SuSE imposes (for which RedHat/Mandrake imposes others..) Just take a look at www.rpmfind.net - there's an rpm specifically for redhat, mandrake, and SuSE. And you can't always afford to use YaST! My 486 takes around 45secs to start it - and that's not anti-productive for me.. (I think of things this way - YaST is a luxury, and you won't find it in other distros, so don't depend on it!. Stick to generic tools, and you'll be able to administer any linux distro.) In relation to the Pentium optimized packages, perhaps core components are provided in pentium-optimized AND 486 form, but I can't understand how all packages can be 'pentium ready' and then run on a 486? And I don't believe there are 2 versions of every RPM on the ISO. Consider Mandrake for a moment - its retail distribution won't run on anything less than Pentium. (This is not the case with RedHat, btw) But now Mandrake release a 486-based ISO, in addition to the i586, so Mandrake runs on i486 & i586. If i'm wrong in stating any of this, PLEASE YELL AT ME! Regards, Jason. On Tue, 20 Jun 2000, Rob Davies wrote:
Hi just a few questions in relation to this posting, I appologise for my ignorance in advance.
I am new to Linux about 6months into it, I have used a few distros and have found SuSE to be the most compliant with my working environ, seems to be a little quicker and stable than a few others I've used, with the exception of XFree86 4.0, but I will persevere, it is the first time I have tried installing XFree86 4.0 on any distro anyway. I find it is just a lot of little things SuSE does really well or just does, most stable I have found with KDE inclusive of setup.
I'd have to agree with you on that one - i've been using Mandrake for the past year, and there are many things I like about SuSE, but more that I love about Mandrake.
I had trouble trying to get the install started, mind you it was a iso I borrowed from someone that he burnt so it may have been contaminated.
For one thing, rpms are most often found in redhat-ready form, and mandrake happily works with those; the same can't be said for SuSE... I know I could dnld the tarred archives, but why think twice when you've got all the administration benefits of rpm.
I use yast and it seems to not have any problems thus far, and if there is it usuallly gives an answer on how to solve it.
Then theres the pentium optimized packages - I mean, should pentium users be burdeoned by ancient 486-only optimizations?
mine actually states that it is 2.2.14 (i586) is this not pentium optimised, my understanding it is. SuSE localhost home page in netscape. In output from XFree it states 2.2.14 i686 elf.
I feel SuSE should adopt a similar strategy - release a Pentium optimized ISO, and a conventional 486 edition. Well at least Mandrake's thoughtful enough..
I thought they had.
Thanks -- Rob Davies rjdart@optusnet.com.au ICQ 10432219 "To converse is one strategy that separates us from the Apes."
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