On Sunday 21 October 2007 18:03, Don Raboud wrote:

On Sunday 21 October 2007 15:03, Doug McGarrett wrote:

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I just tried to play an audio CD. I got a message that said CD not found, try running cdparanoia -vsQ as yourself, not root. So I tried that. Here is what I got (long, sorry about that)

< snipping many devices tested >

What is the output of

/usr/sbin/hwinfo --cdrom

That should tell you what the CD device is to help narrow things down.

-- Don

The output of that command scrolls across the screen and is gone in less than 1 second. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Sunday 21 October 2007 10:21:16 pm Doug McGarrett wrote:

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What is the output of

/usr/sbin/hwinfo --cdrom

That should tell you what the CD device is to help narrow things down. .. The output of that command scrolls across the screen and is gone in less

On Sunday 21 October 2007 18:03, Don Raboud wrote: ... than 1 second.

/usr/sbin/hwinfo --cdrom > cdrom-info than you can see details in file cdrom-info, or /usr/sbin/hwinfo --cdrom | grep Device although relevant information should be on the screen as it is listed last. -- Regards, Rajko. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Monday 22 October 2007 00:04, Rajko M. wrote:

On Sunday 21 October 2007 10:21:16 pm Doug McGarrett wrote:

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On Sunday 21 October 2007 18:03, Don Raboud wrote:

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What is the output of

/usr/sbin/hwinfo --cdrom

That should tell you what the CD device is to help narrow things down.

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The output of that command scrolls across the screen and is gone in less than 1 second.

/usr/sbin/hwinfo --cdrom > cdrom-info than you can see details in file cdrom-info, or /usr/sbin/hwinfo --cdrom | grep Device although relevant information should be on the screen as it is listed last.

-- Regards, Rajko.

None of this works. All I get is "no such file or directory." It doesn't seem to matter if I am in my own directory or in root. This is 9.3. I am seriously considering going to Mandriva, since I can't get this to work right, and I'm seeing a lot of problems with 10.3, according to posts on the list, which was supposed to be the final stable version. I really thought I would buy 10.3, but now I think not. Does Mandriva have a mailing list? I know that it used to, but their web-site is confusing. --doug -- Blessed are the peacemakers ... for they shall be shot at from both sides. --A.M. Greeley -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 * Doug McGarrett [10-22-07 20:51]:

None of this works. All I get is "no such file or directory." It doesn't seem to matter if I am in my own directory or in root. This is 9.3.

rpm -q hwinfo

I am seriously considering going to Mandriva, since I can't get this to work right, and I'm seeing a lot of problems with 10.3, according to posts on the list, which was supposed to be the final stable version.

good luck, cu

I really thought I would buy 10.3, but now I think not.

your choice

Does Mandriva have a mailing list?

google it. Why ask on an openSUSE list?

I know that it used to, but their web-site is confusing.

My wife has that type of problem, confusing, but it might just be a female thing. - -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://counter.li.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn4472 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHHUxiClSjbQz1U5oRAsDaAJ4qzaADZ89COw3+JGm1Mj3H2nxZSQCdFVjn f3iJVCLs4xPZeVRYh9DLUks= =+1DX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Monday 2007-10-22 at 20:53 -0400, Doug McGarrett wrote:

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What is the output of

/usr/sbin/hwinfo --cdrom

That should tell you what the CD device is to help narrow things down.

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The output of that command scrolls across the screen and is gone in less than 1 second.

/usr/sbin/hwinfo --cdrom > cdrom-info than you can see details in file cdrom-info, or /usr/sbin/hwinfo --cdrom | grep Device although relevant information should be on the screen as it is listed last.

When I do either of these commands, the result is "No such file or directory." I'm running 9.3. Should I be in root?

I don't understand. A moment ago you said that you got so much output that it scrolls out of the window, now you say you get "no such command". I don't understand, unless you are typing incorrectly. If you enter "hwinfo" - and of course that you have to use it as root! - you should get a lot of output. And you should already know, as an old linux user, that in those cases you have to "pipe" the output. There are many ways: hwinfo | more hwinfo | less hwinfo > any_file_name hwinfo ... and go back up the screen using the terminal scroll bar or [Shift][PgUp] And remember that "|" is not "one" nor "L", but the pipe symbol. Or simply read the help for "hwinfo" and learn how to "log" the output. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFHHU+9tTMYHG2NR9URAtdMAJ9ZQDJ+ZvHDgLEPt1hLIS+FtNOCJgCfdLPZ Vz9CpXqihw/7EOOprcG/6xQ= =kuSt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Patrick Shanahan wrote:

* Carlos E. R. [10-22-07 21:36]:

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I don't understand.

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A moment ago you said that you got so much output that it scrolls out of the window, now you say you get "no such command".

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I don't understand, unless you are typing incorrectly.

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If you enter "hwinfo" - and of course that you have to use it as root! -

no, -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 30824 2006-05-02 09:33 /usr/sbin/hwinfo

but it needs to be in his path, /usr/sbin/ normally isn't, or explicitly stated as was directed.

If the hwinfo command were setuid root, I'd agree with you. It is executable by non-root, but that does not give the user running it superuser rights, so I'd expect some "permission denied" and the like. So, to be sure, I'd either run it as root, or with sudo. Joe -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

I'm guessing your desktop session gave you the right to access the cdrom but that doesn't apply to the hardware on the system in general, and it wouldn't apply if you had logged in via ssh, or if there were more than one desktop session running on your system. But you have to admit, there's no doubt root will have the access rights... Joe ptilopteri@gmail.com wrote:

* joe [10-22-07 21:50]:

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If the hwinfo command were setuid root, I'd agree with you. It is executable by non-root, but that does not give the user running it superuser rights, so I'd expect some "permission denied" and the like.

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So, to be sure, I'd either run it as root, or with sudo.

note, as {USER}: 22:48 wahoo:~ > hwinfo --cdrom 24: IDE 02.0: 10602 CD-ROM (DVD) [Created at block.195] UDI: /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/storage_serial_428599 Unique ID: 90A1.+Bvv51Rpzz4 Parent ID: H0_h.tPqwEZqhzJB SysFS ID: /block/hdc SysFS BusID: 1.0 SysFS Device Link: /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:06.0/ide1/1.0 Hardware Class: cdrom Model: "PLEXTOR DVDR PX-716A" Vendor: "PLEXTOR" Device: "DVDR PX-716A" Driver: "AMD_IDE", "ide-cdrom", "ide-cdrom" Device File: /dev/hdc Device Files: /dev/hdc, /dev/disk/by-id/ata-PLEXTOR_DVDR_PX-716A_428599 Device Number: block 22:0 Features: CD-R, CD-RW, DVD, DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD+R, DVD+RW, DVD+DL Size: 0 sectors a 512 bytes Drive status: no medium Config Status: cfg=no, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown Attached to: #7 (IDE interface) Drive Speed: 40

25: IDE 03.0: 10602 CD-ROM (DVD) [Created at block.195] UDI: /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/storage_serial_024460 Unique ID: cBQ5.wgZqaXHt7W7 Parent ID: H0_h.tPqwEZqhzJB SysFS ID: /block/hdd SysFS BusID: 1.1 SysFS Device Link: /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:06.0/ide1/1.1 Hardware Class: cdrom Model: "PLEXTOR CD-R PX-320A" Vendor: "PLEXTOR" Device: "CD-R PX-320A" Driver: "AMD_IDE", "ide-cdrom", "ide-cdrom" Device File: /dev/hdd Device Files: /dev/hdd, /dev/disk/by-id/ata-PLEXTOR_CD-R_PX-320A_024460 Device Number: block 22:64 Features: CD-R, CD-RW, DVD Size: 0 sectors a 512 bytes Drive status: no medium Config Status: cfg=no, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown Attached to: #7 (IDE interface) Drive Speed: 40

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Patrick Shanahan wrote:

* joe [10-22-07 23:01]:

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I'm guessing your desktop session gave you the right to access the cdrom but that doesn't apply to the hardware on the system in general, and it wouldn't apply if you had logged in via ssh, or if there were more than one desktop session running on your system.

No, file permissions give you rights, not desktop sessions. I can certainly ssh in and perform the same action.

As a normal user, you don't have sufficient rights to read everything on the system - many things are not world readable. However, when you start a desktop session, the session management scheme grants you access to certain desktop related devices, for instance The local display, sound devices, CD, DVD, pluggable devices etc. If you ssh in as you mentioned, while you're already logged into a desktop session then naturally you've already been granted rights to those devices. Log out of your desktop session, let somebody else start a local X session, then you ssh in and try to access those devices that you thought were world readable - you'll be denied. Joe -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Monday 22 October 2007 07:53:02 pm Doug McGarrett wrote:

When I do either of these commands, the result is "No such file or directory." I'm running 9.3.  Should I be in root?

Not in 10.3, but you had output once, so switch to root user, and see again without full path ie. /usr/sbin/ It can be that 'hwinfo' was before in /sbin/ directory. Now we know that you are using 9.3 it can be something else. If CD worked and "without reason" ceased than it can be one of those moments where only $$ can solve the problem. Check connectors and contacts, disconnect them and connect again; power, flat cable on both sides, jumpers on drive. I had 2 years ago CD RW that quitted in a seconds between burning CD and attempt to look content. I thought I made a coaster, but it was drive. I spent some time looking for a software problem, but at the end tried another drive that worked, and used that drive on another computer and surprisingly it didn't worked. -- Regards, Rajko. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org