[opensuse] Printer with ethernet and without bluetooth: how can I convert it to be bluetooth compatible?
Is it possible to branch a pinter with ethernet in a way that I can reach it with my notebook via bluetooth? Is there a special printserver maybe? The printer is an aging Lexmark 543C that however does a marvelous service. It would be really handy to have him respond via BT.... _________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________ Ihre E-Mail-Postf�cher sicher & zentral an einem Ort. Jetzt wechseln und alte E-Mail-Adresse mitnehmen! https://www.eclipso.de -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
stakanov wrote:
Is it possible to branch a pinter with ethernet in a way that I can reach it with my notebook via bluetooth? Is there a special printserver maybe? The printer is an aging Lexmark 543C that however does a marvelous service. It would be really handy to have him respond via BT....
Any reason you don't want or can't use just ethernet/wifi ? -- Per Jessen, Zürich (5.6°C) http://www.hostsuisse.com/ - dedicated server rental in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
In data giovedì 13 febbraio 2020 11:05:10 CET, Per Jessen ha scritto:
stakanov wrote:
Is it possible to branch a pinter with ethernet in a way that I can reach it with my notebook via bluetooth? Is there a special printserver maybe? The printer is an aging Lexmark 543C that however does a marvelous service. It would be really handy to have him respond via BT....
Any reason you don't want or can't use just ethernet/wifi ?
Knowledge and convenience I guess. I could maybe use a ethernet - wlan adapter on the printer. But: Using wlan for printing would require to change everytime firewallsettings on the laptop which is not so comfortable. BT printing would be very convenient. _________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________ Ihre E-Mail-Postfächer sicher & zentral an einem Ort. Jetzt wechseln und alte E-Mail-Adresse mitnehmen! https://www.eclipso.de -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 13/02/2020 11.15, stakanov wrote: | In data giovedì 13 febbraio 2020 11:05:10 CET, Per Jessen ha | scritto: |> stakanov wrote: |>> Is it possible to branch a pinter with ethernet in a way that |>> I can reach it with my notebook via bluetooth? Is there a |>> special printserver maybe? The printer is an aging Lexmark |>> 543C that however does a marvelous service. It would be really |>> handy to have him respond via BT.... |> |> Any reason you don't want or can't use just ethernet/wifi ? | | Knowledge and convenience I guess. I could maybe use a ethernet - | wlan adapter on the printer. But: Using wlan for printing would | require to change everytime firewallsettings on the laptop which | is not so comfortable. BT printing would be very convenient. It is the first time I hear of BT printing. Guessing, you would need a computer having BT, connected to the printer via Ethernet or WiFi, and with some specific software that talks to whatever the phone uses. Where have you heard of BT printing? There is a BT protocol that in fact uses the BT to set up a WiFi connection, which is the one that does the actual transfer of the data. Android can print via WiFi to a cooperating printer, so it would not surprise me that the BT role is simply setup of the printer. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EARECAB0WIQQZEb51mJKK1KpcU/W1MxgcbY1H1QUCXkUtygAKCRC1MxgcbY1H 1ZafAJ9/nlIaIDAnl6Vu8r1K7JxP5hFUHACglmqfUi+byE9uBdgFEdBKgj2iaiU= =VZ5h -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Thu, 13 Feb 2020 11:15:03 +0100 stakanov <stakanov@eclipso.eu> wrote:
In data giovedì 13 febbraio 2020 11:05:10 CET, Per Jessen ha scritto:
stakanov wrote:
Is it possible to branch a pinter with ethernet in a way that I can reach it with my notebook via bluetooth? Is there a special printserver maybe? The printer is an aging Lexmark 543C that however does a marvelous service. It would be really handy to have him respond via BT....
Any reason you don't want or can't use just ethernet/wifi ?
Knowledge and convenience I guess. I could maybe use a ethernet - wlan adapter on the printer. But: Using wlan for printing would require to change everytime firewallsettings on the laptop which is not so comfortable. BT printing would be very convenient.
Something like some RPi has both ether and BT. Maybe you could use one as a bridge? I expect there are other products too. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Thursday, 13 February 2020 20:45:03 ACDT stakanov wrote:
In data giovedì 13 febbraio 2020 11:05:10 CET, Per Jessen ha scritto:
stakanov wrote:
Is it possible to branch a pinter with ethernet in a way that I can reach it with my notebook via bluetooth? Is there a special printserver maybe? The printer is an aging Lexmark 543C that however does a marvelous service. It would be really handy to have him respond via BT....
Any reason you don't want or can't use just ethernet/wifi ?
Knowledge and convenience I guess. I could maybe use a ethernet - wlan adapter on the printer. But: Using wlan for printing would require to change everytime firewallsettings on the laptop which is not so comfortable. BT printing would be very convenient.
It might be a bit like using a sledgehammer to crack a walnut, but you could probably achieve this with a Raspberry Pi, a USB Bluetooth dongle and CUPS. Maybe. I'm thinking; Connect the printer to the Raspberry Pi via ethernet; share the printer via CUPS; setup a Bluetooth PAN on the Pi and connect your laptop to that; connect to the CUPS printer share on the Pi and be happy. :) If it works. YMMV. Happy experimenting. :) -- ============================================================== Rodney Baker VK5ZTV rodney.baker@iinet.net.au CCNA #CSCO12880208 ============================================================== -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 13/02/2020 12.45, Rodney Baker wrote: | On Thursday, 13 February 2020 20:45:03 ACDT stakanov wrote: |> In data giovedì 13 febbraio 2020 11:05:10 CET, Per Jessen ha |> scritto: |>> stakanov wrote: ... | Maybe. I'm thinking; | | Connect the printer to the Raspberry Pi via ethernet; share the | printer via CUPS; setup a Bluetooth PAN on the Pi and connect your | laptop to that; connect to the CUPS printer share on the Pi and be | happy. :) If it works. | | YMMV. | | Happy experimenting. :) It may not be "that easy". I googled a bit, and it seems BT printing is mostly used with phones. With AirPrint app for Apple, or Cloud Print app for Android, on the phone, and corresponding firmware on the printer. The easiest would be to buy a gadget that already does it all (Wi-Fi or Bluetooth print server). Seems to cost about $50-$60. <https://smallbusiness.chron.com/bluetooth-vs-wifi-printers-55566.html> Doable in Linux perhaps if the protocols are published and you are a hacker. <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Cloud_Print> ... Applications print through a web-based, common print dialog (web UI) or an API. The service forwards the job to a printer registered to the service. Cloud Ready printers (which connect directly to the web and do not require a computer to set up[2][9]) can directly connect to Google Cloud Print. As legacy ("classic") printers cannot accept input from a cloud service, Google Chrome 9 contained a "Cloud Print Connector"—which lets printers plugged into a Microsoft Windows, Apple Mac, or Linux computer with Internet access use Cloud Print while the connector is running in Google Chrome.[2][9][10] ... Planned discontinuation Google announced in November 2019 that Google Cloud Print would no longer be supported after December 31, 2020.[6] Google cited improvements in native Chrome OS printing as well as a marketplace of other print solutions providers in its decision to terminate the service.[18] Privacy Documents printed via Google Cloud Print are sent to Google's servers for transmission to the printer. Google explains, "Google also keeps a copy of each document you send for printing - but only for so long as the printing job is active and not complete. We have to do this to make sure your document gets printed. Once the job is complete, the document is deleted from our servers...Documents you send to print are your personal information and are kept strictly confidential. Google does not access the documents you print for any purpose other than to improve printing."[3] - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EARECAB0WIQQZEb51mJKK1KpcU/W1MxgcbY1H1QUCXkU+BwAKCRC1MxgcbY1H 1diQAJ9aAaPDvZkK06rEiNyU8oNtZkNaRgCeJNLadSReU4xwm43Afktds8LTezo= =DDSk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2020-02-13 13:16, Carlos E. R. wrote:
It may not be "that easy".
https://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/90593/raspberry-pi-as-blueto... -- /bengan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 13/02/2020 14.47, Bengt Gördén wrote:
On 2020-02-13 13:16, Carlos E. R. wrote:
It may not be "that easy".
https://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/90593/raspberry-pi-as-blueto...
Nice :-) -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar)
On Thu, 13 Feb 2020 22:15:50 +1030 Rodney Baker <rodney.baker@iinet.net.au> wrote:
On Thursday, 13 February 2020 20:45:03 ACDT stakanov wrote:
In data giovedì 13 febbraio 2020 11:05:10 CET, Per Jessen ha scritto:
stakanov wrote:
Is it possible to branch a pinter with ethernet in a way that I can reach it with my notebook via bluetooth? Is there a special printserver maybe? The printer is an aging Lexmark 543C that however does a marvelous service. It would be really handy to have him respond via BT....
Any reason you don't want or can't use just ethernet/wifi ?
Knowledge and convenience I guess. I could maybe use a ethernet - wlan adapter on the printer. But: Using wlan for printing would require to change everytime firewallsettings on the laptop which is not so comfortable. BT printing would be very convenient.
It might be a bit like using a sledgehammer to crack a walnut, but you could probably achieve this with a Raspberry Pi, a USB Bluetooth dongle and CUPS.
Maybe. I'm thinking;
Connect the printer to the Raspberry Pi via ethernet; share the printer via CUPS; setup a Bluetooth PAN on the Pi and connect your laptop to that; connect to the CUPS printer share on the Pi and be happy. :) If it works.
Bluetooth is native on the board if you buy the right model pi. 3, 3B+ or 4.
YMMV.
Happy experimenting. :)
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On Thu, 13 Feb 2020 22:15:50 +1030
Rodney Baker <rodney.baker@iinet.net.au> wrote:
On Thursday, 13 February 2020 20:45:03 ACDT stakanov wrote:
In data giovedì 13 febbraio 2020 11:05:10 CET, Per Jessen ha
scritto:
stakanov wrote:
Is it possible to branch a pinter with ethernet in a way that I can reach it with my notebook via bluetooth? Is there a special printserver maybe? The printer is an aging Lexmark 543C that however does a marvelous service. It would be really handy to have him respond via BT....
Any reason you don't want or can't use just ethernet/wifi ?
Knowledge and convenience I guess. I could maybe use a ethernet - wlan adapter on the printer. But: Using wlan for printing would require to change everytime firewallsettings on the laptop which is not so comfortable. BT printing would be very convenient.
It might be a bit like using a sledgehammer to crack a walnut, but you could probably achieve this with a Raspberry Pi, a USB Bluetooth dongle and CUPS.
Maybe. I'm thinking;
Connect the printer to the Raspberry Pi via ethernet; share the printer via CUPS; setup a Bluetooth PAN on the Pi and connect your laptop to that; connect to the CUPS printer share on the Pi and be happy. :) If it works.
Bluetooth is native on the board if you buy the right model pi. 3, 3B+ or 4.
YMMV.
Happy experimenting. :) The problem with the commercial adapter seems to be that ethernet is not a
In data giovedì 13 febbraio 2020 17:03:39 CET, Dave Howorth ha scritto: power source. As a result, if you use a dongle ethernet to bt, you need a) a usb interface to power it via a y cable b) a separate sector cable. a) makes it difficult to use, as normally printers have only one outgoing usb (female) for alimentation from outside and have normally no other usb ports. b) makes it expensive. Yes, one could try with a Pi. But I am virgin for what is this kind of hardware. _________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________ Ihre E-Mail-Postfächer sicher & zentral an einem Ort. Jetzt wechseln und alte E-Mail-Adresse mitnehmen! https://www.eclipso.de -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 13/02/2020 19.20, stakanov wrote: | In data giovedì 13 febbraio 2020 17:03:39 CET, Dave Howorth ha | scritto: |> On Thu, 13 Feb 2020 22:15:50 +1030 |> |> Rodney Baker <rodney.baker@iinet.net.au> wrote: |>> On Thursday, 13 February 2020 20:45:03 ACDT stakanov wrote: |>>> In data giovedì 13 febbraio 2020 11:05:10 CET, Per Jessen ha |>>> |>>> scritto: |>>>> stakanov wrote: |>>>>> Is it possible to branch a pinter with ethernet in a way |>>>>> that I can reach it with my notebook via bluetooth? Is |>>>>> there a special printserver maybe? The printer is an |>>>>> aging Lexmark 543C that however does a marvelous service. |>>>>> It would be really handy to have him respond via BT.... |>>>> |>>>> Any reason you don't want or can't use just ethernet/wifi |>>>> ? |>>> |>>> Knowledge and convenience I guess. I could maybe use a |>>> ethernet - wlan adapter on the printer. But: Using wlan for |>>> printing would require to change everytime firewallsettings |>>> on the laptop which is not so comfortable. BT printing would |>>> be very convenient. |>> |>> It might be a bit like using a sledgehammer to crack a walnut, |>> but you could probably achieve this with a Raspberry Pi, a USB |>> Bluetooth dongle and CUPS. |>> |>> Maybe. I'm thinking; |>> |>> Connect the printer to the Raspberry Pi via ethernet; share |>> the printer via CUPS; setup a Bluetooth PAN on the Pi and |>> connect your laptop to that; connect to the CUPS printer share |>> on the Pi and be happy. :) If it works. |> |> Bluetooth is native on the board if you buy the right model pi. |> 3, 3B+ or 4. |> |>> YMMV. |>> |>> Happy experimenting. :) | The problem with the commercial adapter seems to be that ethernet | is not a power source. As a result, if you use a dongle ethernet to | bt, you need a) a usb interface to power it via a y cable b) a | separate sector cable. Possibly you can connect the dongle to the router instead, anywhere in the house. There are routers that have an added function as print server. They could also have this other function. | | a) makes it difficult to use, as normally printers have only one | outgoing usb (female) for alimentation from outside and have | normally no other usb ports. b) makes it expensive. They usually have one "inbound" usb connector that goes to the computer, and may have another, normal, usb socket to plug a stick and print photos or documents directly. On modern printers. | | Yes, one could try with a Pi. But I am virgin for what is this kind | of hardware. Me too. But Dave H. has provided a link for doing it ;-) - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EARECAB0WIQQZEb51mJKK1KpcU/W1MxgcbY1H1QUCXkWVwgAKCRC1MxgcbY1H 1TiJAKCCOdD4r6CznvKcXy5apdtbzpJm/ACcDwVMsdh3JZo8iGjJPkipJm5FaNY= =X6G7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Thu, 13 Feb 2020 19:20:47 +0100 stakanov <stakanov@eclipso.eu> wrote:
In data giovedì 13 febbraio 2020 17:03:39 CET, Dave Howorth ha scritto:
On Thu, 13 Feb 2020 22:15:50 +1030
Rodney Baker <rodney.baker@iinet.net.au> wrote:
On Thursday, 13 February 2020 20:45:03 ACDT stakanov wrote:
In data giovedì 13 febbraio 2020 11:05:10 CET, Per Jessen ha
scritto:
stakanov wrote:
Is it possible to branch a pinter with ethernet in a way that I can reach it with my notebook via bluetooth? Is there a special printserver maybe? The printer is an aging Lexmark 543C that however does a marvelous service. It would be really handy to have him respond via BT....
Any reason you don't want or can't use just ethernet/wifi ?
Knowledge and convenience I guess. I could maybe use a ethernet - wlan adapter on the printer. But: Using wlan for printing would require to change everytime firewallsettings on the laptop which is not so comfortable. BT printing would be very convenient.
It might be a bit like using a sledgehammer to crack a walnut, but you could probably achieve this with a Raspberry Pi, a USB Bluetooth dongle and CUPS.
Maybe. I'm thinking;
Connect the printer to the Raspberry Pi via ethernet; share the printer via CUPS; setup a Bluetooth PAN on the Pi and connect your laptop to that; connect to the CUPS printer share on the Pi and be happy. :) If it works.
Bluetooth is native on the board if you buy the right model pi. 3, 3B+ or 4.
YMMV.
Happy experimenting. :) The problem with the commercial adapter seems to be that ethernet is not a power source. As a result, if you use a dongle ethernet to bt, you need a) a usb interface to power it via a y cable b) a separate sector cable.
a) makes it difficult to use, as normally printers have only one outgoing usb (female) for alimentation from outside and have normally no other usb ports. b) makes it expensive.
Yes, one could try with a Pi. But I am virgin for what is this kind of hardware.
I don't know why you're sending these comments in reply to me, since I just suggested a pi. I didn't recommend any other solution. Others have provided a link to an explicit how-to for a pi so I don't understand your problem with that either? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
stakanov wrote:
In data giovedì 13 febbraio 2020 11:05:10 CET, Per Jessen ha scritto:
stakanov wrote:
Is it possible to branch a pinter with ethernet in a way that I can reach it with my notebook via bluetooth? Is there a special printserver maybe? The printer is an aging Lexmark 543C that however does a marvelous service. It would be really handy to have him respond via BT....
Any reason you don't want or can't use just ethernet/wifi ?
Knowledge and convenience I guess. I could maybe use a ethernet - wlan adapter on the printer. But: Using wlan for printing would require to change everytime firewallsettings on the laptop which is not so comfortable. BT printing would be very convenient.
It depends on your setup - I would just connect the printer to a local hub/switch, most probably your access point or router has a few empty sockets. The changes to the firewall should only be needed once. I think it _is_ possible to run tcp/ip over Bluetooth, but when I looked into it last year (for my son's schoolproject), it was not straight forward. Back then we wanted to connect a (browser on a) Samsung tab to a (webserver on a) Raspi. It was much easier getting the Raspi to run as an access point. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (11.0°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - your free DNS host, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 13/02/2020 04:14, stakanov wrote:
Is it possible to branch a pinter with ethernet in a way that I can reach it with my notebook via bluetooth? Is there a special printserver maybe? The printer is an aging Lexmark 543C that however does a marvelous service. It would be really handy to have him respond via BT....
Why no wifi? My home LAN has a wifi adapter. *MY* problems getting the tablet to the printer involved an app. And with that solved NOW my problems are to do with to routing. I can't seem to control routing from my tablet. -- A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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