[opensuse] Three different browsers can't access website, fourth can

Stan Goodman

29 Jul 2009 29 Jul '09

13:40

A few hours ago a specific website http://www.jpost.com became inaccessible in Firefox, and began to behave as if unrecognized by the DNS. Calling its URL caused my own home page to be displayed instead (this is what happens when a non-existent URL is entered in the navigation field). When this continued for so long as to become suspicious, I logged into WinXP in VirtualBox, and found that the same website is accessed normally, so there is nothing wrong with the website, which made me think that I needed a new profile. The new profile is also unable to access the website. The same thing happens on Opera and on Konqueror, so the problem has nothing to do with a specific browser. There is also no problem with other websites. I am behind two separate firewalls (hardware in my router and openSuSE software. I am out of ways to diagnose the problem. Does it make sense to anyone? -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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Pete Connolly

29 Jul 29 Jul

13:48

On 29/07/2009 14:40, Stan Goodman wrote:

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A few hours ago a specific websitehttp://www.jpost.com became inaccessible in Firefox, and began to behave as if unrecognized by the DNS. Calling its URL caused my own home page to be displayed instead (this is what happens when a non-existent URL is entered in the navigation field). When this continued for so long as to become suspicious, I logged into WinXP in VirtualBox, and found that the same website is accessed normally, so there is nothing wrong with the website, which made me think that I needed a new profile.

The new profile is also unable to access the website. The same thing happens on Opera and on Konqueror, so the problem has nothing to do with a specific browser. There is also no problem with other websites.

I am behind two separate firewalls (hardware in my router and openSuSE software.

I am out of ways to diagnose the problem. Does it make sense to anyone?

Hi Stan Do you use a proxy server with Firefox, Opera and Konqueror? Cheers Pete -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Stan Goodman

14:06

At 16:48:25 on Wednesday Wednesday 29 July 2009, Pete Connolly wrote:

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On 29/07/2009 14:40, Stan Goodman wrote:

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A few hours ago a specific websitehttp://www.jpost.com became inaccessible in Firefox, and began to behave as if unrecognized by the DNS. Calling its URL caused my own home page to be displayed instead (this is what happens when a non-existent URL is entered in the navigation field). When this continued for so long as to become suspicious, I logged into WinXP in VirtualBox, and found that the same website is accessed normally, so there is nothing wrong with the website, which made me think that I needed a new profile.

The new profile is also unable to access the website. The same thing happens on Opera and on Konqueror, so the problem has nothing to do with a specific browser. There is also no problem with other websites.

I am behind two separate firewalls (hardware in my router and openSuSE software.

I am out of ways to diagnose the problem. Does it make sense to anyone?

Hi Stan

Do you use a proxy server with Firefox, Opera and Konqueror?

I never have, in all these years, and I suppose that has to change now. You are suggesting that I have been attacked, I gather, which I had also considered (thus my remark about firewall). But it isn't clear to me how all three of these browsers might have been attacked.!?! Nor how this behavior can affect only that one specific website. And lastly, what to do about it now in order to get out of this pickle. -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Pete Connolly

14:30

On 29/07/2009 15:06, Stan Goodman wrote:

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At 16:48:25 on Wednesday Wednesday 29 July 2009, Pete Connolly wrote:

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On 29/07/2009 14:40, Stan Goodman wrote:

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A few hours ago a specific websitehttp://www.jpost.com became inaccessible in Firefox, and began to behave as if unrecognized by the DNS. Calling its URL caused my own home page to be displayed instead (this is what happens when a non-existent URL is entered in the navigation field). When this continued for so long as to become suspicious, I logged into WinXP in VirtualBox, and found that the same website is accessed normally, so there is nothing wrong with the website, which made me think that I needed a new profile.

The new profile is also unable to access the website. The same thing happens on Opera and on Konqueror, so the problem has nothing to do with a specific browser. There is also no problem with other websites.

I am behind two separate firewalls (hardware in my router and openSuSE software.

I am out of ways to diagnose the problem. Does it make sense to anyone?

Hi Stan

Do you use a proxy server with Firefox, Opera and Konqueror?

I never have, in all these years, and I suppose that has to change now. You are suggesting that I have been attacked, I gather, which I had also considered (thus my remark about firewall). But it isn't clear to me how all three of these browsers might have been attacked.!?! Nor how this behavior can affect only that one specific website. And lastly, what to do about it now in order to get out of this pickle.

I was thinking more in terms of a broken proxy, rather than someone attacking you. I've had squid fail in the past which affected my everyone on my home network until I changed to access the internet directly. Can you ping www.jpost.com directly from a console? Not that that's the best ever test, but I'd like to see if it's networking that's broken or your browser's routes to jpost.com Cheers Pete -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Stan Goodman

15:45

At 17:30:30 on Wednesday Wednesday 29 July 2009, Pete Connolly wrote:

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On 29/07/2009 15:06, Stan Goodman wrote:

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At 16:48:25 on Wednesday Wednesday 29 July 2009, Pete Connolly

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On 29/07/2009 14:40, Stan Goodman wrote:

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A few hours ago a specific websitehttp://www.jpost.com became inaccessible in Firefox, and began to behave as if unrecognized by the DNS. Calling its URL caused my own home page to be displayed instead (this is what happens when a non-existent URL is entered in the navigation field). When this continued for so long as to become suspicious, I logged into WinXP in VirtualBox, and found that the same website is accessed normally, so there is nothing wrong with the website, which made me think that I needed a new profile.

The new profile is also unable to access the website. The same thing happens on Opera and on Konqueror, so the problem has nothing to do with a specific browser. There is also no problem with other websites.

I am behind two separate firewalls (hardware in my router and openSuSE software.

I am out of ways to diagnose the problem. Does it make sense to anyone?

Hi Stan

Do you use a proxy server with Firefox, Opera and Konqueror?

I never have, in all these years, and I suppose that has to change now. You are suggesting that I have been attacked, I gather, which I had also considered (thus my remark about firewall). But it isn't clear to me how all three of these browsers might have been attacked.!?! Nor how this behavior can affect only that one specific website. And lastly, what to do about it now in order to get out of this pickle.

I was thinking more in terms of a broken proxy, rather than someone attacking you. I've had squid fail in the past which affected my everyone on my home network until I changed to access the internet directly.

Can you ping www.jpost.com directly from a console? Not that that's the best ever test, but I'd like to see if it's networking that's broken or your browser's routes to jpost.com

I haven't been able to ping that server for years; I'm sure it's set up not to allow ping. In the same way, I haven't been able to ping cnn.com, which is working fine here. Furthermore, Firefox in the WinXP virtual machine has no trouble with the problematic server. My conclusion is that the server is ok, and somehow all three browsers (or something that they have in common) are screwed up. -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

jdd (kim2)

15:49

Stan Goodman a écrit :

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Can you ping www.jpost.com directly from a console? Not that that's

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My conclusion is that the server is ok, and somehow all three browsers (or something that they have in common) are screwed up.

no ping but I can access this jerusalem post server with no problem with Firefox jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://valerie.dodin.org http://news.opensuse.org/2009/04/13/people-of-opensuse-jean-daniel-dodin/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Heinz Diehl

16:07

New subject: [opensuse] Re: Three different browsers can't access website, fourth can

On 29.07.2009, jdd (kim2) wrote:

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no ping

htd@liesel:~> ping www.jpost.com PING orig-10008.jpost.cotcdn.net (94.127.76.40) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from LB140.AMST.COTENDO.NET (94.127.76.40): icmp_seq=1 ttl=49 time=64.7 ms 64 bytes from LB140.AMST.COTENDO.NET (94.127.76.40): icmp_seq=2 ttl=49 time=63.6 ms 64 bytes from LB140.AMST.COTENDO.NET (94.127.76.40): icmp_seq=3 ttl=49 time=65.5 ms 64 bytes from LB140.AMST.COTENDO.NET (94.127.76.40): icmp_seq=4 ttl=49 time=64.5 ms 64 bytes from LB140.AMST.COTENDO.NET (94.127.76.40): icmp_seq=5 ttl=49 time=63.6 ms 64 bytes from LB140.AMST.COTENDO.NET (94.127.76.40): icmp_seq=6 ttl=49 time=63.5 ms 64 bytes from LB140.AMST.COTENDO.NET (94.127.76.40): icmp_seq=7 ttl=49 time=63.5 ms 64 bytes from LB140.AMST.COTENDO.NET (94.127.76.40): icmp_seq=8 ttl=49 time=64.6 ms ^C --- orig-10008.jpost.cotcdn.net ping statistics --- 8 packets transmitted, 8 received, 0% packet loss, time 7010ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 63.522/64.229/65.523/0.731 ms I can both ping and access the website without any problems. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Stan Goodman

16:40

At 18:49:11 on Wednesday Wednesday 29 July 2009, "jdd (kim2)" wrote:

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Stan Goodman a écrit :

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Can you ping www.jpost.com directly from a console? Not that that's

My conclusion is that the server is ok, and somehow all three browsers (or something that they have in common) are screwed up.

no ping but I can access this jerusalem post server with no problem

with Firefox

So can I -- from Firefox in the WinXP virtual machine. I can 't think there is anything wrong with the server, as I have said. Something very strange has happened with the browsers in openSuSE. -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Mike McMullin

30 Jul 30 Jul

08:08

On Wed, 2009-07-29 at 19:40 +0300, Stan Goodman wrote:

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At 18:49:11 on Wednesday Wednesday 29 July 2009, "jdd (kim2)" wrote:

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Stan Goodman a écrit :

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Can you ping www.jpost.com directly from a console? Not that that's

My conclusion is that the server is ok, and somehow all three browsers (or something that they have in common) are screwed up.

no ping but I can access this jerusalem post server with no problem

with Firefox

So can I -- from Firefox in the WinXP virtual machine. I can 't think there is anything wrong with the server, as I have said. Something very strange has happened with the browsers in openSuSE.

If you cannot ping then there really is a problem other than the browsers, I can get to it via Opera in 11.1 and ping it from the CLI.

Stan Goodman

10:46

At 11:08:42 on Thursday Thursday 30 July 2009, Mike McMullin wrote:

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On Wed, 2009-07-29 at 19:40 +0300, Stan Goodman wrote:

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At 18:49:11 on Wednesday Wednesday 29 July 2009, "jdd (kim2)"

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Stan Goodman a écrit :

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Can you ping www.jpost.com directly from a console? Not that that's

My conclusion is that the server is ok, and somehow all three browsers (or something that they have in common) are screwed up.

no ping but I can access this jerusalem post server with no problem

with Firefox

So can I -- from Firefox in the WinXP virtual machine. I can 't think there is anything wrong with the server, as I have said. Something very strange has happened with the browsers in openSuSE.

If you cannot ping then there really is a problem other than the browsers, I can get to it via Opera in 11.1 and ping it from the CLI.

The fact that two unrelated browsers exhibit the same behavior made it clear that the problem is wider than just the browser(s). -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Manfred Hollstein

29 Jul 29 Jul

16:02

New subject: [opensuse] Three different browsers can't access website, fourth can

On Wed, 29 Jul 2009, 17:45:52 +0200, Stan Goodman wrote:

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[...] I haven't been able to ping that server for years;

You could try telnet www.jpost.com 80 as an attempt to access that site with the most stupid browser.

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I'm sure it's set up not to allow ping. In the same way, I haven't been able to ping cnn.com, which is working fine here.

Furthermore, Firefox in the WinXP virtual machine has no trouble with the problematic server.

My conclusion is that the server is ok, and somehow all three browsers (or something that they have in common) are screwed up.

Did you install some extensions on the M$ OS for which there are no equivalents on Linux? HTH, cheers. l8er manfred -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Stan Goodman

16:42

At 19:02:36 on Wednesday Wednesday 29 July 2009, Manfred Hollstein wrote:

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On Wed, 29 Jul 2009, 17:45:52 +0200, Stan Goodman wrote:

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[...] I haven't been able to ping that server for years;

You could try

telnet www.jpost.com 80

as an attempt to access that site with the most stupid browser.

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I'm sure it's set up not to allow ping. In the same way, I haven't been able to ping cnn.com, which is working fine here.

Furthermore, Firefox in the WinXP virtual machine has no trouble with the problematic server.

My conclusion is that the server is ok, and somehow all three browsers (or something that they have in common) are screwed up.

Did you install some extensions on the M$ OS for which there are no equivalents on Linux?

Firefox Extensions in OS and WinXP are synchronized with Xmarks. Whatever is in one is also in the other. -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Felix Miata

16:08

On 2009/07/29 11:45 (GMT-0400) Stan Goodman composed:

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The new profile is also unable to access the website. The same thing happens on Opera and on Konqueror, so the problem has nothing to do with a specific browser. There is also no problem with other websites. ... Furthermore, Firefox in the WinXP virtual machine has no trouble with the problematic server.

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My conclusion is that the server is ok, and somehow all three browsers (or something that they have in common) are screwed up.

In Firefox and/or SeaMonkey in about:config what do you see resulting from an ipv filter? If ...disableIPv6 is false, try true. If true, try false. -- No Jesus - No peace , Know Jesus - Know Peace Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Stan Goodman

16:50

At 19:08:40 on Wednesday Wednesday 29 July 2009, Felix Miata wrote:

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On 2009/07/29 11:45 (GMT-0400) Stan Goodman composed:

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The new profile is also unable to access the website. The same thing happens on Opera and on Konqueror, so the problem has nothing to do with a specific browser. There is also no problem with other websites.

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Furthermore, Firefox in the WinXP virtual machine has no trouble with the problematic server.

My conclusion is that the server is ok, and somehow all three browsers (or something that they have in common) are screwed up.

In Firefox and/or SeaMonkey in about:config what do you see resulting from an ipv filter? If ...disableIPv6 is false, try true. If true, try false.

It was True; now it is False. Makes no difference. -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Felix Miata

14:52

On 2009/07/29 16:40 (GMT+0300) Stan Goodman composed in KMail:

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A few hours ago a specific website http://www.jpost.com became inaccessible in Firefox, and began to behave as if unrecognized by the DNS. Calling its URL caused my own home page to be displayed instead (this is what happens when a non-existent URL is entered in the navigation field). When this continued for so long as to become suspicious, I logged into WinXP in VirtualBox, and found that the same website is accessed normally, so there is nothing wrong with the website, which made me think that I needed a new profile.

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The new profile is also unable to access the website. The same thing happens on Opera and on Konqueror, so the problem has nothing to do with a specific browser. There is also no problem with other websites.

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I am behind two separate firewalls (hardware in my router and openSuSE software.

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I am out of ways to diagnose the problem. Does it make sense to anyone?

Maybe the site has some funky detection going on, based upon your location rather than UA or browser settings. Opened right up for me in FF2, Opera & Konq on OS 11.0 and FF2 & SeaMonkey on OS/2. I only have a hardware router/firewall to go through. Running traceroute out to it on OS/2 & OS saw big DNS delay, and two IPs for www.jpost.com: 98.142.96.40 & 98.142.98.40. -- No Jesus - No peace , Know Jesus - Know Peace Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Dave Howorth

14:59

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On 2009/07/29 16:40 (GMT+0300) Stan Goodman composed in KMail:

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I am out of ways to diagnose the problem. Does it make sense to anyone?

You could try ping, telnet, wget and/or lynx and see what responses you get. You will probably see some useful status information to help you diagnose the problem. Cheers, Dave -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Stan Goodman

16:37

At 17:59:28 on Wednesday Wednesday 29 July 2009, Dave Howorth wrote:

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On 2009/07/29 16:40 (GMT+0300) Stan Goodman composed in KMail:

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I am out of ways to diagnose the problem. Does it make sense to anyone?

You could try ping, telnet, wget and/or lynx and see what responses you get. You will probably see some useful status information to help you diagnose the problem.

Ping is impossible, as I have explained. I can send a screenshot of mtr traceroute if anyone wishes, but it looks OK to me. Here is what wget produces, which also doesn't indicate any problem: ***** :~> wget jpost.com --2009-07-29 19:36:35-- http://jpost.com/ Resolving jpost.com... 192.114.68.46 Connecting to jpost.com|192.114.68.46|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 301 Moved Permanently Location: http://www.jpost.com/ [following] --2009-07-29 19:36:35-- http://www.jpost.com/ Resolving www.jpost.com... 98.142.108.40 Connecting to www.jpost.com|98.142.108.40|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 ok Length: 123543 (121K) [text/html] Saving to: `index.html.1' 100%[======================================>] 123,543 189K/s in 0.6s 2009-07-29 19:36:35 (189 KB/s) - `index.html.1' saved [123543/123543] ***** -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Charles Philip Chan

17:06

New subject: [opensuse] Re: Three different browsers can't access website, fourth can

Stan Goodman writes:

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Ping is impossible,

This os really strange. I have no problems pinging jpost: ,---- | hoor@MagnusOpus:~> ping www.jpost.com | PING orig-10008.jpost.cotcdn.net (98.142.102.40) 56(84) bytes of data. | 64 bytes from LB140.CHIC.COTENDO.NET (98.142.102.40): icmp_seq=1 ttl=55 time=37.8 ms | 64 bytes from LB140.CHIC.COTENDO.NET (98.142.102.40): icmp_seq=2 ttl=55 time=38.1 ms | 64 bytes from LB140.CHIC.COTENDO.NET (98.142.102.40): icmp_seq=3 ttl=55 time=37.5 ms | ... `---- Also, I have no problems accessing the site with Firefox 3.5.1.

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***** :~> wget jpost.com --2009-07-29 19:36:35-- http://jpost.com/ Resolving jpost.com... 192.114.68.46 Connecting to jpost.com|192.114.68.46|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 301 Moved Permanently Location: http://www.jpost.com/ [following] --2009-07-29 19:36:35-- http://www.jpost.com/ Resolving www.jpost.com... 98.142.108.40 Connecting to www.jpost.com|98.142.108.40|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 ok Length: 123543 (121K) [text/html] Saving to: `index.html.1'

100%[======================================>] 123,543 189K/s in 0.6s

2009-07-29 19:36:35 (189 KB/s) - `index.html.1' saved [123543/123543] *****

Hum, so wget can connect. Have you tried disabling all your firefox Add-ons to see if it works? Also, is anything set up for proxy in Firefox? Charles -- "Who is General Failure and why is he reading my hard disk ?" Microsoft spel chekar vor sail, worgs grate !! (By leitner@inf.fu-berlin.de, Felix von Leitner)

Stan Goodman

19:38

New subject: [opensuse] Re: Three different browsers can't access website, fourth can

At 20:06:03 on Wednesday Wednesday 29 July 2009, Charles Philip Chan wrote:

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Stan Goodman

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Ping is impossible,

This os really strange. I have no problems pinging jpost:

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| hoor@MagnusOpus:~> ping www.jpost.com | PING orig-10008.jpost.cotcdn.net (98.142.102.40) 56(84) bytes of | data. 64 bytes from LB140.CHIC.COTENDO.NET (98.142.102.40): | icmp_seq=1 ttl=55 time=37.8 ms 64 bytes from LB140.CHIC.COTENDO.NET | (98.142.102.40): icmp_seq=2 ttl=55 time=38.1 ms 64 bytes from | LB140.CHIC.COTENDO.NET (98.142.102.40): icmp_seq=3 ttl=55 time=37.5 | ms ...

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Also, I have no problems accessing the site with Firefox 3.5.1.

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:~> wget jpost.com

--2009-07-29 19:36:35-- http://jpost.com/ Resolving jpost.com... 192.114.68.46 Connecting to jpost.com|192.114.68.46|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 301 Moved Permanently Location: http://www.jpost.com/ [following] --2009-07-29 19:36:35-- http://www.jpost.com/ Resolving www.jpost.com... 98.142.108.40 Connecting to www.jpost.com|98.142.108.40|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 ok Length: 123543 (121K) [text/html] Saving to: `index.html.1'

100%[======================================>] 123,543 189K/s in 0.6s

2009-07-29 19:36:35 (189 KB/s) - `index.html.1' saved [123543/123543] *****

Hum, so wget can connect. Have you tried disabling all your firefox Add-ons to see if it works? Also, is anything set up for proxy in Firefox?

There is no proxy. But I have found another strange behavior that may give a clue to people with more insight than me: When such a URL as: http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1139395637450&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull is placed in the navigation field, I did arrive at the proper page. When I tried truncating the subdirectories, leaving only http://www.jpost.com, however, I was returned to my own site, which appears to be the default for unknown URLs. I have to say that I have never understood how or why the browser makes this connection, since the URL of my site is NOT the home page listed in the Preferences. In any case, now it seems clear that Firefox can find the jpost server if the page is specified, but is somehow stuck on avoiding the naked base URL. Also that wherever the sticking place is, it affects not only FF, but also Opera and Konqueror. What have these browsers got in common? -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Carlos E. R.

20:00

New subject: [opensuse] Re: Three different browsers can't access website, fourth can

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Also that wherever the sticking place is, it affects not only FF, but also Opera and Konqueror. What have these browsers got in common?

dns server, hosts file... What answer do you get to "host www.jpost.com"? Also to "ping www.jpost.com". I know it fails for you, but at the start it prints the IP it tries. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkpwqlcACgkQtTMYHG2NR9XZhACeO6JQtRBpzSOiPoSbb327zYlO Ca8An1dX5aaG8GqKTYcP4Bm7/H3VB08l =PRrp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Stan Goodman

20:19

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At 23:00:14 on Wednesday Wednesday 29 July 2009, "Carlos E. R." wrote:

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On Wednesday, 2009-07-29 at 22:38 +0300, Stan Goodman wrote:

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Also that wherever the sticking place is, it affects not only FF, but also Opera and Konqueror. What have these browsers got in common?

dns server, hosts file...

What answer do you get to "host www.jpost.com"?

Also to "ping www.jpost.com". I know it fails for you, but at the start it prints the IP it tries.

Both are pointed to 98.142.108.40. -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Carlos E. R.

22:34

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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, 2009-07-29 at 23:19 +0300, Stan Goodman wrote: El 2009-07-29 a las 23:19 +0300, Stan Goodman escribió:

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At 23:00:14 on Wednesday Wednesday 29 July 2009, "Carlos E. R." <> wrote:

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On Wednesday, 2009-07-29 at 22:38 +0300, Stan Goodman wrote:

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Also that wherever the sticking place is, it affects not only FF, but also Opera and Konqueror. What have these browsers got in common?

dns server, hosts file...

What answer do you get to "host www.jpost.com"?

Also to "ping www.jpost.com". I know it fails for you, but at the start it prints the IP it tries.

Both are pointed to 98.142.108.40.

Which might be incorrect, it should be 94.127.78.40. 94.127.78.40 -> LB140.LOND.COTENDO.NET 98.142.108.40 -> LB140.TELA.COTENDO.NET - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkpwzmwACgkQtTMYHG2NR9UUHwCfb8vvodkzPUzdMV7C9h+oM0Lm aHYAnimELTXOEKSpD8SXR+llxJUKom3O =T76b -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Stan Goodman

23:29

New subject: [opensuse] Re: Three different browsers can't access website, fourth can

At 01:34:10 on Thursday Thursday 30 July 2009, "Carlos E. R." wrote:

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On Wednesday, 2009-07-29 at 23:19 +0300, Stan Goodman wrote:

El 2009-07-29 a las 23:19 +0300, Stan Goodman escribió:

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At 23:00:14 on Wednesday Wednesday 29 July 2009, "Carlos E. R." <> wrote:

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On Wednesday, 2009-07-29 at 22:38 +0300, Stan Goodman wrote:

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Also that wherever the sticking place is, it affects not only FF, but also Opera and Konqueror. What have these browsers got in common?

dns server, hosts file...

What answer do you get to "host www.jpost.com"?

Also to "ping www.jpost.com". I know it fails for you, but at the start it prints the IP it tries.

Both are pointed to 98.142.108.40.

Which might be incorrect, it should be 94.127.78.40.

94.127.78.40 -> LB140.LOND.COTENDO.NET 98.142.108.40 -> LB140.TELA.COTENDO.NET

Please run that past me a little slower. I gather from your earlier post that the server has two IP addresses (Or there are two servers). Why is one preferable over the other? And since 98.142.108.40 is the one that the DNS gives me, what can I do about it, short of using the IP address in the navigation field instead of the literal name? But in any case, entering http://94.127.78.40 gets me (or just the IP address alone): ***** Bad Request url: / is invalid ***** -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Stan Goodman

16:31

At 17:52:30 on Wednesday Wednesday 29 July 2009, Felix Miata wrote:

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On 2009/07/29 16:40 (GMT+0300) Stan Goodman composed in KMail:

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A few hours ago a specific website http://www.jpost.com became inaccessible in Firefox, and began to behave as if unrecognized by the DNS. Calling its URL caused my own home page to be displayed instead (this is what happens when a non-existent URL is entered in the navigation field). When this continued for so long as to become suspicious, I logged into WinXP in VirtualBox, and found that the same website is accessed normally, so there is nothing wrong with the website, which made me think that I needed a new profile.

The new profile is also unable to access the website. The same thing happens on Opera and on Konqueror, so the problem has nothing to do with a specific browser. There is also no problem with other websites.

I am behind two separate firewalls (hardware in my router and openSuSE software.

I am out of ways to diagnose the problem. Does it make sense to anyone?

Maybe the site has some funky detection going on, based upon your location rather than UA or browser settings. Opened right up for me in

But FF in WinXP (virtual machine) is in the same location as is openSuSE. And surely the newspaper doesn't think my location is suspicious -- it's a local newspaper, although the server is in the US.

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FF2, Opera & Konq on OS 11.0 and FF2 & SeaMonkey on OS/2. I only have a hardware router/firewall to go through. Running traceroute out to it on OS/2 & OS saw big DNS delay, and two IPs for www.jpost.com: 98.142.96.40 & 98.142.98.40. --

Odd. You're much closer to the server than I am. I pinged both IP addresses, both successfully. The first one found no packets lost, and a return time very consistent between 240 - 243ms; the second came back faster 261 - 171ms, but with 14% lost packets. Both of these look acceptable to me, but I 'm wondering if set a different DNS address for the WinXP. I'll check that. I did a traceroute. The times are all very moderate, except there is a very infrequent delay here at the ISP, that amounted at worst to 186ms, but is mostly on the same two-digit order as all the rest. -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Heinz Diehl

15:05

New subject: [opensuse] Re: Three different browsers can't access website, fourth can

On 29.07.2009, Stan Goodman wrote:

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A few hours ago a specific website http://www.jpost.com became inaccessible in Firefox, and began to behave as if unrecognized by the DNS. Calling its URL caused my own home page to be displayed instead (this is what happens when a non-existent URL is entered in the navigation field).

Use "tcptraceroute" to find out where it stops, and if the packets reach the website. zypper search tcptraceroute -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Dave Plater

17:29

Stan Goodman wrote:

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A few hours ago a specific website http://www.jpost.com became inaccessible in Firefox, and began to behave as if unrecognized by the DNS. Calling its URL caused my own home page to be displayed instead (this is what happens when a non-existent URL is entered in the navigation field). When this continued for so long as to become suspicious, I logged into WinXP in VirtualBox, and found that the same website is accessed normally, so there is nothing wrong with the website, which made me think that I needed a new profile.

The new profile is also unable to access the website. The same thing happens on Opera and on Konqueror, so the problem has nothing to do with a specific browser. There is also no problem with other websites.

I am behind two separate firewalls (hardware in my router and openSuSE software.

I am out of ways to diagnose the problem. Does it make sense to anyone?

With konqueror, in settings, you have the ability to set the browser identification, try setting it to one of the internet explorer versions. Regards Dave P -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Stan Goodman

19:50

At 20:29:46 on Wednesday Wednesday 29 July 2009, Dave Plater wrote:

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Stan Goodman wrote:

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A few hours ago a specific website http://www.jpost.com became inaccessible in Firefox, and began to behave as if unrecognized by the DNS. Calling its URL caused my own home page to be displayed instead (this is what happens when a non-existent URL is entered in the navigation field). When this continued for so long as to become suspicious, I logged into WinXP in VirtualBox, and found that the same website is accessed normally, so there is nothing wrong with the website, which made me think that I needed a new profile.

The new profile is also unable to access the website. The same thing happens on Opera and on Konqueror, so the problem has nothing to do with a specific browser. There is also no problem with other websites.

I am behind two separate firewalls (hardware in my router and openSuSE software.

I am out of ways to diagnose the problem. Does it make sense to anyone?

With konqueror, in settings, you have the ability to set the browser identification, try setting it to one of the internet explorer versions. Regards

That worked. It seems also to have worked for Firefox; I then tried to load the problematic site, and reached an error message saying that the site is overloaded come back again -- which is an apparent improvement. Assuming that it is, I remain confused about how it could have happened that the malfunction appeared initially on FF, Opera, and Konqueror. -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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