[opensuse] Mozilla package differences?
Is there any difference between the SUSE versions of Seamonkey, Thunderbird etc., and those provided directly by Mozilla? -- Use OpenOffice.org <http://www.openoffice.org> -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
James Knott wrote:
Is there any difference between the SUSE versions of Seamonkey, Thunderbird etc., and those provided directly by Mozilla?
Yes. Some added features for integration purposes. Firefox 2.0.0.11 counts 30 patches. The others (TB, SM) have less. Do you need details? Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote:
James Knott wrote:
Is there any difference between the SUSE versions of Seamonkey, Thunderbird etc., and those provided directly by Mozilla?
Yes. Some added features for integration purposes. Firefox 2.0.0.11 counts 30 patches. The others (TB, SM) have less. Do you need details?
Wolfgang
No, I was just curious. Every now and then, I get a pop up saying there's an update and asking if I want to get it. If there was no difference, I'd go for it, but I might as well wait for the "official" SUSE update. tnx -- Use OpenOffice.org <http://www.openoffice.org> -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
James Knott schrieb:
Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote:
James Knott wrote:
Is there any difference between the SUSE versions of Seamonkey, Thunderbird etc., and those provided directly by Mozilla? Yes. Some added features for integration purposes. Firefox 2.0.0.11 counts 30 patches. The others (TB, SM) have less. Do you need details?
No, I was just curious. Every now and then, I get a pop up saying there's an update and asking if I want to get it. If there was no difference, I'd go for it, but I might as well wait for the "official" SUSE update.
Now I'm curious. What kind of popup do you get saying there is an update? The openSUSE RPMs shouldn't notify about any updates itself. It's done by the package management. So if you actually get these something is strange and you are probably not running an openSUSE version. Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote:
James Knott schrieb:
Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote:
James Knott wrote:
Is there any difference between the SUSE versions of Seamonkey, Thunderbird etc., and those provided directly by Mozilla? Yes. Some added features for integration purposes. Firefox 2.0.0.11 counts 30 patches. The others (TB, SM) have less. Do you need details?
No, I was just curious. Every now and then, I get a pop up saying there's an update and asking if I want to get it. If there was no difference, I'd go for it, but I might as well wait for the "official" SUSE update.
Now I'm curious. What kind of popup do you get saying there is an update? The openSUSE RPMs shouldn't notify about any updates itself. It's done by the package management. So if you actually get these something is strange and you are probably not running an openSUSE version.
I thought I installed the SUSE version, but could be wrong. Is there any way to tell? -- Use OpenOffice.org <http://www.openoffice.org> -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
James Knott schrieb:
Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote:
No, I was just curious. Every now and then, I get a pop up saying there's an update and asking if I want to get it. If there was no difference, I'd go for it, but I might as well wait for the "official" SUSE update. Now I'm curious. What kind of popup do you get saying there is an update? The openSUSE RPMs shouldn't notify about any updates itself. It's done by the package management. So if you actually get these something is strange and you are probably not running an openSUSE version.
I thought I installed the SUSE version, but could be wrong. Is there any way to tell?
Help -> About tells you the user agent string. It would contain SUSE in case it's actually from SUSE. Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote:
James Knott schrieb:
Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote:
No, I was just curious. Every now and then, I get a pop up saying there's an update and asking if I want to get it. If there was no difference, I'd go for it, but I might as well wait for the "official" SUSE update. Now I'm curious. What kind of popup do you get saying there is an update? The openSUSE RPMs shouldn't notify about any updates itself. It's done by the package management. So if you actually get these something is strange and you are probably not running an openSUSE version.
I thought I installed the SUSE version, but could be wrong. Is there any way to tell?
Help -> About tells you the user agent string. It would contain SUSE in case it's actually from SUSE.
Wolfgang
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686 (x86_64); en-US; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20070803 SUSE/1.1.7-0.1 SeaMonkey/1.1.7 It sure looks like it says SUSE. I'll have to capture the text, next time I see one of those messages. -- Use OpenOffice.org <http://www.openoffice.org> -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 * James Knott <james.knott@rogers.com> [01-16-08 18:36]:
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686 (x86_64); en-US; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20070803 SUSE/1.1.7-0.1 SeaMonkey/1.1.7
It sure looks like it says SUSE. I'll have to capture the text, next time I see one of those messages.
click help -> about mozilla firefox you should see: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/~pat/firefox.suse.version.jpg - -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://counter.li.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHjqC/ClSjbQz1U5oRAptjAJ9/37vQX931n2rBJjXFcBMAzl0AmACgoppQ cH5zPZ2RTu/X6W30ABZ/8jw= =js+U -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* James Knott <james.knott@rogers.com> [01-16-08 18:36]:
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686 (x86_64); en-US; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20070803 SUSE/1.1.7-0.1 SeaMonkey/1.1.7
It sure looks like it says SUSE. I'll have to capture the text, next time I see one of those messages.
click help -> about mozilla firefox
you should see: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/~pat/firefox.suse.version.jpg
Both Seamonkey and Firefox show SUSE. So, the question becomes why am I seeing those update notices? -- Use OpenOffice.org <http://www.openoffice.org> -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 James Knott wrote:
Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* James Knott <james.knott@rogers.com> [01-16-08 18:36]:
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686 (x86_64); en-US; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20070803 SUSE/1.1.7-0.1 SeaMonkey/1.1.7 It sure looks like it says SUSE. I'll have to capture the text, next time I see one of those messages. click help -> about mozilla firefox
you should see: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/~pat/firefox.suse.version.jpg
Both Seamonkey and Firefox show SUSE. So, the question becomes why am I seeing those update notices?
Are these for Firefox/Thunderbird itself or the plugins? I do get update notices for non-SuSE plugins. - -- ============================================================================== I have always wished that my computer would be as easy to use as my telephone. My wish has come true. I no longer know how to use my telephone. Bjarne Stroustrup ============================================================================== -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHjxKjasN0sSnLmgIRAt3RAJsFYmQ125hpCV/mBkJln13bkQx/RwCeJhrY trfL/EPj22AMKWXvVqdOI5o= =5fBW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
G T Smith wrote:
James Knott wrote:
Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* James Knott <james.knott@rogers.com> [01-16-08 18:36]:
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686 (x86_64); en-US; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20070803 SUSE/1.1.7-0.1 SeaMonkey/1.1.7 It sure looks like it says SUSE. I'll have to capture the text, next time I see one of those messages. click help -> about mozilla firefox
you should see: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/~pat/firefox.suse.version.jpg
Both Seamonkey and Firefox show SUSE. So, the question becomes why am I seeing those update notices?
Are these for Firefox/Thunderbird itself or the plugins? I do get update notices for non-SuSE plugins.
No, the one I saw yesterday was for Seamonkey. I'll have to see where the next one takes me. -- Use OpenOffice.org <http://www.openoffice.org> -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
James Knott wrote:
G T Smith wrote:
James Knott wrote:
Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* James Knott <james.knott@rogers.com> [01-16-08 18:36]:
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686 (x86_64); en-US; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20070803 SUSE/1.1.7-0.1 SeaMonkey/1.1.7 It sure looks like it says SUSE. I'll have to capture the text, next time I see one of those messages. click help -> about mozilla firefox
you should see: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/~pat/firefox.suse.version.jpg
Both Seamonkey and Firefox show SUSE. So, the question becomes why am I seeing those update notices?
Are these for Firefox/Thunderbird itself or the plugins? I do get update notices for non-SuSE plugins.
No, the one I saw yesterday was for Seamonkey. I'll have to see where the next one takes me.
I guess I know what's happening. You are using the SeaMonkey package from the openSUSE repository and not the ones from the mozilla one. There is an error in the official one, which makes it look like an older version and so you get notified that there is a newer one. You can ignore that. I think there even is a pref to disable the check somewhere. Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 2008/01/16 12:37 (GMT-0500) James Knott apparently typed:
Is there any difference between the SUSE versions of Seamonkey, Thunderbird etc., and those provided directly by Mozilla?
The official versions require libstdc++5, which has been in SUSE as legacy support for a whole bunch of release versions. There's been talk on moznet for years of switching to a newer version, but the devs there feel the distros are using the latest in their native packages, while maintaining compatability for users of support orphan distros remains nicely served by building theirs with an older compiler. Plus there's the latency issue of the mozilla.org tinderbox build servers getting old and still running on old distros with old compilers. Upgrading distros on them not only requires an investment of resources, it muddies the performance statistics on the tests they constantly run to detect performance changes if they change the environment. -- "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." John 1:1 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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