[opensuse] adding trash can to KDE4 folder desktop
Hello: I would like to add the Trashcan to my KDE4 desktop which is set to folder layout. I read somewhere to add Trashcan widget but it's not what I want. I cannot move it and it is not only a simple icon it has those tool icons at the right side when I hover it. Is it possible to add a normal Trash can? Thanks, Istvan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Am Donnerstag, 8. Januar 2015, 21:57:54 schrieb Istvan Gabor:
Is it possible to add a normal Trash can?
Yes. Right-click on the desktop and select "Create New"->"Shortcut to address (URL)", and enter "trash:/" as address/URL (you can enter whatever you want for the filename. Or just drag the trashcan from dolphin or the K-menu and drop it on your desktop. Right-click on the icon then and choose "Properties" if you want to change the icon and/or name. Kind Regards, Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 01/08/2015 02:44 PM, Wolfgang Bauer wrote:
Right-click on the desktop and select "Create New"->"
I can't even accomplish the first step :-( Right clicking the desktop offers no such option as Create New. What am I missing? -- After all is said and done, more is said than done. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Am Donnerstag, 8. Januar 2015, 15:00:05 schrieb John Andersen:
On 01/08/2015 02:44 PM, Wolfgang Bauer wrote:
Right-click on the desktop and select "Create New"->"
I can't even accomplish the first step :-(
Right clicking the desktop offers no such option as Create New. What am I missing?
If you use a default desktop (with no icons, only widgets) you have to right-click inside the folderview widget. I didn't mention this because Istvan Gabor wrote he is using the folderview layout. Or navigate to the Desktop folder in Dolphin or Konqueror and right-click there (this works in any folder though). Kind Regards, Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Le 09/01/2015 00:00, John Andersen a écrit :
On 01/08/2015 02:44 PM, Wolfgang Bauer wrote:
Right-click on the desktop and select "Create New"->"
I can't even accomplish the first step :-(
Right clicking the desktop offers no such option as Create New. What am I missing?
in this case you may have "add graphical components", trash can is there jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Am Freitag, 9. Januar 2015, 08:05:34 schrieb jdd:
Le 09/01/2015 00:00, John Andersen a écrit :
Right clicking the desktop offers no such option as Create New. What am I missing?
in this case you may have "add graphical components", trash can is there
Yes, but that will add the trashcan *widget*, and not create a shortcut icon. Istvan Gabor explicitely wrote he doesn't want that. Btw, it's called "Add Widgets" in the english version... ;) Kind Regards, Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Wolfgang Bauer írta:
Am Freitag, 9. Januar 2015, 08:05:34 schrieb jdd:
Le 09/01/2015 00:00, John Andersen a écrit :
Right clicking the desktop offers no such option as Create New. What am I missing?
in this case you may have "add graphical components", trash can is there
Yes, but that will add the trashcan *widget*, and not create a shortcut icon. Istvan Gabor explicitely wrote he doesn't want that.
I yet need the Trashcan widget because the link to url icon does not show the state of the Trashcan (empty or not). OK, I added the Trashcan widget. How can I change its look? I would like to change the font color of the widget name and also disable the background of the name. I would like to make it look as other regular icons on my desktop. Is it possible? Thanks, Istvan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Am Samstag, 10. Januar 2015, 18:02:01 schrieb Istvan Gabor:
I yet need the Trashcan widget because the link to url icon does not show the state of the Trashcan (empty or not).
Yes. It's just a normal icon, like any other. It does have an "Empty Trash" right-click action though. But it is possible to specify a different icon via an "EmptyIcon=" line in the .desktop file. I just found this, have a look: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=686668#p686668 I tried that and it seems to work.
OK, I added the Trashcan widget. How can I change its look?
It follows the plasma theme. You cannot change it separately. But at least here on my system, it does look the same like the icons in the folderview. Did you change their appearance maybe? An alternative maybe would be to add it to the panel instead of the desktop? Kind Regards, Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Wolfgang Bauer írta:
Am Samstag, 10. Januar 2015, 18:02:01 schrieb Istvan Gabor:
I yet need the Trashcan widget because the link to url icon does not show the state of the Trashcan (empty or not).
Yes. It's just a normal icon, like any other. It does have an "Empty Trash" right-click action though.
But it is possible to specify a different icon via an "EmptyIcon=" line in the .desktop file.
OK. What do you mean under .desktop file? I could not find any [Tt]rash.desktop or[Tr]ashcan.desktop in my system. Or you mean the file/url link I made in my ~/Desktop folder which contains the link to trash:/? It has this content: [Desktop Entry] Icon=user-trash-full Type=Link URL[$e]=trash:/ I changed this to: [Desktop Entry] Icon=user-trash-full EmptyIcon=user-trash Type=Link URL[$e]=trash:/ This resulted in changing the icon to empty Trashcan even if it has some content. ??
I just found this, have a look: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=686668#p686668 I tried that and it seems to work.
I will look into this.
It follows the plasma theme. You cannot change it separately.
But at least here on my system, it does look the same like the icons in the folderview. Did you change their appearance maybe?
They look different for me. Normal icon has white colored name without background, widget has black colored name with (ugly) background. Here is a screenshot: http://i62.tinypic.com/2cd7s41.png Style: plastik, colors: openSUSE, icon theme: oxygene, desktop theme: air By the way, if I add a widget to the desktop it will be placed over (cover) existing icons. I consider this a bug. Icons and widgets should be placed to empty areas, not on top of other items. Screenshot: http://i57.tinypic.com/167s861.png Thanks, Istvan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
OK. What do you mean under .desktop file? I could not find any [Tt]rash.desktop or[Tr]ashcan.desktop in my system. Or you mean the file/url link I made in my ~/Desktop folder which contains the link to trash:/? The latter. You should have a xxx.desktop file in your ~/Desktop folder describing the
Am Montag, 12. Januar 2015, 18:23:02 schrieb Istvan Gabor: link. That's not at all different to KDE3 btw.
This resulted in changing the icon to empty Trashcan even if it has some content. ??
I works fine here, it shows the full icon when things are in the trash can. But I'm using the file from that post I linked to now. That post states that the order of the lines seems to be important, so try to use exactly that too. It has "EmptyIcon" *before* "Icon".
But at least here on my system, it does look the same like the icons in the folderview. Did you change their appearance maybe?
They look different for me. Normal icon has white colored name without background, widget has black colored name with (ugly) background. Here is a screenshot:
http://i62.tinypic.com/2cd7s41.png
Style: plastik, colors: openSUSE, icon theme: oxygene, desktop theme: air
My folderview icons (with the default settings) do look the same as your (and my) widget. Again, you probably changed the appearance of the icons in the folderview's settings (text color, changed to white, shadow deactivated). There is no way to configure the Trash widget in a similar way (it just uses the colors defined by the desktop theme). And AFAIK nobody ever asked for that either. As KDE4 is near the end of its life (and the desktop is in feature freeze since over a year already), this will not be added any more now as well. Maybe in Plasma 5... ;)
By the way, if I add a widget to the desktop it will be placed over (cover) existing icons. I consider this a bug. Icons and widgets should be placed to empty areas, not on top of other items.
For plasma there are no icons, only widgets. The "icons" are just some graphics that the folderview widget displays. And you can place widgets on top of each other. So, no bug, but a feature/design decision. Although normally plasma should try to create new widgets in empty areas, and it does unless there is no space or you move it yourself over an existing widget. Kind Regards, Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Wolfgang Bauer írta:
OK. What do you mean under .desktop file? I could not find any [Tt]rash.desktop or[Tr]ashcan.desktop in my system. Or you mean the file/url link I made in my ~/Desktop folder which contains the link to trash:/? The latter. You should have a xxx.desktop file in your ~/Desktop folder describing the
Am Montag, 12. Januar 2015, 18:23:02 schrieb Istvan Gabor: link.
I have created a new user in openSUSE 13.2 for testing desktop settings only. The only change I made was setting the desktop to folder layout. Now I have default icons like Firefox, KInfoCenter etc on the desktop and a widget (Desktop folder widget?) which has the very same icons. If I create a new icon as Right click -> Create New -> Link to Location (URL)... : File name: Trashcan, URL: trash:/, it places the trashcan icon on the desktop. Bit it won't have the .desktop extension in the Desktop directory while the other icon names have the extension. See the attached image: http://i61.tinypic.com/11mg3ky.png If I rename Trashcan to Trashcan.desktop its name will change both on the desktop and in the Desktop directory (while other icon names have the extension only in the folder but not in the icons on the desktop). See the attached image: http://i57.tinypic.com/6sgx6u.png
That's not at all different to KDE3 btw.
This resulted in changing the icon to empty Trashcan even if it has some content. ??
I works fine here, it shows the full icon when things are in the trash can.
But I'm using the file from that post I linked to now. That post states that the order of the lines seems to be important, so try to use exactly that too. It has "EmptyIcon" *before* "Icon".
I still had no time to try this but I will, I promise.
But at least here on my system, it does look the same like the icons in the folderview. Did you change their appearance maybe?
They look different for me. Normal icon has white colored name without background, widget has black colored name with (ugly) background. Here is a screenshot:
http://i62.tinypic.com/2cd7s41.png
Style: plastik, colors: openSUSE, icon theme: oxygene, desktop theme: air
My folderview icons (with the default settings) do look the same as your (and my) widget.
Again, you probably changed the appearance of the icons in the folderview's settings (text color, changed to white, shadow deactivated).
OK, in the above images you can see that the regular icons and the widget icon look different despite I haven't changed anything except the default desktop layout to folder layout. This is openSUSE 13.2 default desktop, default theme etc, still the items look different. It looks ugly.
There is no way to configure the Trash widget in a similar way (it just uses the colors defined by the desktop theme).
It's a pity.
And AFAIK nobody ever asked for that either.
As KDE4 is near the end of its life (and the desktop is in feature freeze since over a year already), this will not be added any more now as well.
Maybe in Plasma 5... ;)
By the way, if I add a widget to the desktop it will be placed over (cover) existing icons. I consider this a bug. Icons and widgets should be placed to empty areas, not on top of other items.
For plasma there are no icons, only widgets. The "icons" are just some graphics that the folderview widget displays.
And you can place widgets on top of each other.
So, no bug, but a feature/design decision.
You can call it feature if you think it sounds better. (: KDE4 has some of this type of 'features'. Best regards, Istvan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Am Dienstag, 13. Januar 2015, 19:56:46 schrieb Istvan Gabor:
Now I have default icons like Firefox, KInfoCenter etc on the desktop and a widget (Desktop folder widget?) which has the very same icons. If I create a new icon as Right click -> Create New -> Link to Location (URL)... : Filename: Trashcan, URL: trash:/, it places the trashcan icon on the desktop. Bit it won't have the .desktop extension in the Desktop directory while the other icon names have the extension. See the attached image:
http://i61.tinypic.com/11mg3ky.png
If I rename Trashcan to Trashcan.desktop its name will change both on the desktop and in the Desktop directory (while other icon names have the extension only in the folder but not in the icons on the desktop).
Ok, you're right. Creating it with "Create New"->"Link to Location (URL)" will not add a .desktop extension, but KDE recognizes it as .desktop file anyway. If you rename it to xxx.desktop in a file manager, it will also show as xxx.desktop on the desktop, that is correct too. But you can get rid of the .desktop extension on the desktop by right-clicking on the icon, choosing "Properties" and editing the name there. This will not change the filename, only the name that is displayed (specified inside the .desktop file). It shouldn't matter at all though whether the file has the .desktop ending or not. This is not Windows...
My folderview icons (with the default settings) do look the same as your (and my) widget.
Again, you probably changed the appearance of the icons in the folderview's settings (text color, changed to white, shadow deactivated).
OK, in the above images you can see that the regular icons and the widget icon look different despite I haven't changed anything except the default desktop layout to folder layout. This is openSUSE 13.2 default desktop, default theme etc, still the items look different. It looks ugly.
Well, in the folderview widget, the icons look the same then the trashcan widget. That's what I meant. I don't use the folder layout, so I wasn't aware it has a different default. You can change the icon text settings for the icons on the desktop though, by right-clicking on an empty space and choosing "Folder Settings". Set the icon color to black, and they will look the same as the ones in the folderview and trashcan widgets... But IIUYC, that's not really what you want, as you seem to find it "ugly". Well, try to switch to a desktop theme with white text color then. I don't think there's another way to make them look the same.
For plasma there are no icons, only widgets. The "icons" are just some graphics that the folderview widget displays.
And you can place widgets on top of each other.
So, no bug, but a feature/design decision.
You can call it feature if you think it sounds better. (: KDE4 has some of this type of 'features'.
Like any other desktop, I suppose... Anyway, just because you don't like it, doesn't make it a bug. It is a bug when something doesn't work as intended (by the developers), or when the way something works makes it impossible to use it. That widgets are not the same as (old-style) desktop icons and don't behave the same either is no bug. And it doesn't really matter what I (or you, for that matter) call it here anyway. Kind Regards, Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Wolfgang Baue írta:
Am Dienstag, 13. Januar 2015, 19:56:46 schrieb Istvan Gabor:
Now I have default icons like Firefox, KInfoCenter etc on the desktop and a widget (Desktop folder widget?) which has the very same icons. If I create a new icon as Right click -> Create New -> Link to Location (URL)... : Filename: Trashcan, URL: trash:/, it places the trashcan icon on the desktop. Bit it won't have the .desktop extension in the Desktop directory while the other icon names have the extension. See the attached image:
http://i61.tinypic.com/11mg3ky.png
If I rename Trashcan to Trashcan.desktop its name will change both on the desktop and in the Desktop directory (while other icon names have the extension only in the folder but not in the icons on the desktop).
Ok, you're right. Creating it with "Create New"->"Link to Location (URL)" will not add a .desktop extension, but KDE recognizes it as .desktop file anyway. If you rename it to xxx.desktop in a file manager, it will also show as xxx.desktop on the desktop, that is correct too. But you can get rid of the .desktop extension on the desktop by right-clicking on the icon, choosing "Properties" and editing the name there. This will not change the filename, only the name that is displayed (specified inside the .desktop file).
Yes I can rename the desktop icon without modifying its name in the Desktop directory. Thanks.
It shouldn't matter at all though whether the file has the .desktop ending or not. This is not Windows...
OK, I see. I also tried what you have suggested in your previous post (https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=686668#p686668). I changed my ~/Desktop/Trash.desktop file's content to exactly the same as in post #7 in that thread, that is: [Desktop Entry] Comment[en_GB]=Contains removed files Comment=Contains removed files Comment[ar]=تحوي الملفات المزالة Comment[be@latin]=Zachoŭvaje vydalenyja fajły Comment[be]=Утрымлівае выдаленыя файлы Comment[bg]=Съдържа премахнати файлове Comment[bn]=মুছে ফেলা ফাইল থাকে Comment[bn_IN]=মুছে ফেলা ফাইল অন্তর্ভুক্ত রয়েছে Comment[ca@valencia]=Conté els fitxers suprimits Comment[ca]=Conté els fitxers suprimits Comment[cs]=Obsahuje odstraněné soubory Comment[csb]=Kònténer rëmniãtëch lopków Comment[cy]=Yn cynnwys ffeiliau sydd wedi eu gwaredu Comment[da]=Indeholder slettede filer Comment[de]=Enthält weggeworfene Dateien Comment[el]=Περιέχει τα αφαιρεμένα αρχεία Comment[es]=Contiene los archivos eliminados Comment[et]=Sisaldab eemaldatud faile Comment[eu]=Kendutako fitxategiak ditu Comment[fi]=Sisältää poistetut tiedostot Comment[fr]=Contiens les fichiers effacés Comment[fy]=Befetter fuortsmiten triemmen Comment[ga]=Comhaid bhainte atá ann Comment[gl]=Contén ficheiros eliminados Comment[gu]=દૂર કરેલ ફાઇલ ધરાવે છે Comment[he]=מכיל קבצים שהוסרו Comment[hi]=मिटाई गई फ़ाइलों को रखता है Comment[hne]=मेटाय फाइल ल रखथे Comment[hr]=Sadrži izbrisane datoteke Comment[hsb]=Tu so namakaja zničene dataje Comment[hu]=Törölt fájlokat tartalmaz Comment[is]=Inniheldur skrár sem hefur verið eytt Comment[it]=Contiene i file cancellati Comment[ja]=削除されたファイルを保管しています Comment[ka]=შეიცავს წაშლილ ფაილებს Comment[kk]=Өшірілген файлдар жататын орын Comment[km]=មានឯកសារដែលបានយកចេញ Comment[kn]=ತೆಗೆದು ಹಾಕಲಾದ ಕಡತಗಳನ್ನು ಹೊಂದಿದೆ Comment[ko]=삭제된 파일 및 폴더가 있습니다 Comment[ku]=Di de pelên hatine rakirin jî hene Comment[lt]=Čia yra ištrintos bylos Comment[lv]=Satur izmestos failus Comment[mai]=मेटाएल गेल फाइलसभक राखैत अछि Comment[mk]=Содржи избришани датотеки Comment[ml]=നീക്കം ചെയ്യപെട്ട ഫയലുകള് ഉല്പെടുന്നു Comment[mr]=काढूण टाकलेले फाइल समाविष्टीत आहे Comment[nb]=Inneholder filer som er fjernet Comment[nds]=Bargt wegmaakt Dateien Comment[nl]=Bevat de verwijderde bestanden Comment[nn]=Inneheld sletta filer Comment[or]=ଅପସାରିତ ଫାଇଲଗୁଡ଼ିକୁ ଧାରଣ କରିଥାଏ Comment[pa]=ਹਟਾਈਆਂ ਫਾਇਲਾਂ ਰੱਖਦਾ ਹੈ Comment[pl]=Zawiera usunięte pliki Comment[pt]=Contém os ficheiros removidos Comment[pt_BR]=Contém arquivos removidos Comment[ro]=Conține fișierele șterse Comment[ru]=Содержит удалённые файлы Comment[se]=Dáppe leat eret váldon fiillat Comment[si]=මකන ලද ගොනු ඇත Comment[sk]=Obsahuje vymazané súbory Comment[sl]=Vsebuje odstranjene datoteke Comment[sr@latin]=Sadrži uklonjene fajlove Comment[sr]=Садржи уклоњене фајлове Comment[sv]=Innehåller borttagna filer Comment[ta]=அகற்றப்பட்ட கோப்புகள் இருக்கிறது Comment[te]=తీసివేసిన ఫైళ్ళను కలిగివుంటుంది Comment[tg]=Дорои файлҳои несткардашуда Comment[th]=บรรจุแฟ้มที่ถูกลบ Comment[tr]=Silinen dosyaları içerir Comment[uk]=Містить вилучені файли Comment[uz@cyrillic]=Олиб ташланган файллардан иборат Comment[uz]=Olib tashlangan fayllardan iborat Comment[vi]=Chứa tập tin bị gỡ bỏ Comment[wa]=I gn a dvins des fitchîs oistés Comment[x-test]=xxContains removed filesxx Comment[xh]=Iqulathe iifayile ezisusiweyo Comment[zh_CN]=储存已删除的文件 Comment[zh_TW]=包含已移除的檔案 EmptyIcon=user-trash Encoding=UTF-8 Icon=user-trash-full Name[en_GB]=Wastebin Name=Trash Name[ar]=سلة المهملات Name[be@latin]=Śmietnica Name[bg]=Кошче Name[bn]=আবর্জনা Name[bn_IN]=আবর্জনা Name[ca@valencia]=Paperera Name[ca]=Paperera Name[cs]=Koš Name[csb]=Kòsz Name[da]=Affald Name[de]=Mülleimer Name[el]=Κάδος απορριμάτων Name[es]=Papelera Name[et]=Prügikast Name[eu]=Zakarontzia Name[fa]=زباله Name[fi]=Roskakori Name[fr]=Corbeille Name[fy]=Jiskefet Name[ga]=Bruscar Name[gl]=Lixo Name[gu]=કચરાપેટી Name[he]=אשפה Name[hi]=रद्दी Name[hne]=घुरुवा Name[hr]=Otpad Name[hsb]=Papjernik Name[hu]=Szemétkosár Name[is]=Rusl Name[it]=Cestino Name[ja]=ごみ箱 Name[kk]=Өшірілгендер Name[km]=ធុងសំរាម Name[kn]=ಕಸಬುಟ್ಟಿ Name[ko]=휴지통 Name[ku]=Çop Name[lt]=Šiukšliadėžė Name[lv]=Miskaste Name[mai]=रद्दी Name[mk]=Корпа Name[ml]=ചവറു് Name[mr]=कचरापेटी Name[ms]=Sampah Name[nb]=Søppelbøtte Name[nds]=Affalltünn Name[nl]=Prullenbak Name[nn]=Papirkorg Name[or]=ଆବର୍ଜନା ପାତ୍ର Name[pa]=ਰੱਦੀ Name[pl]=Kosz Name[pt]=Lixo Name[pt_BR]=Lixo Name[ro]=Gunoi Name[ru]=Корзина Name[se]=Ruskalihtti Name[si]=ඉවතලන බහලුම Name[sk]=Kôš Name[sl]=Smeti Name[sr@latin]=Smeće Name[sr]=Смеће Name[sv]=Papperskorg Name[ta]=அகற்றிடம் Name[tg]=Сабад Name[th]=ถังขยะ Name[tr]=Çöp Name[uk]=Смітник Name[wa]=Batch Name[x-test]=xxTrashxx Name[zh_CN]=回收站 Name[zh_TW]=資源回收筒 OnlyShowIn=KDE Type=Link URL[$e]=trash:/ It doesn't work. If I move files into the trash or empty the trash the icon doesn't reflect the change unless I log put ans login in. The trash widget reflects the content correctly (but is doesn't fit the icon lookout). See the attached image: http://i59.tinypic.com/nw9w7.png It seems it's not so easy to make this work. I'm not sure it's worth the invested time. Thanks, Istvan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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