Hello,
I tried to install opensuse11.3 behind a firewall. The installer for older releases used to offer the possibility to deactivate automatic configuration (directly after accepting the license). When this option was checked, it was possible to configure the proxy (and hostname and more things) before the online-update was run. This "deactivate automatic configuration" button seems no longer to exist.
So, how am I supposed to configure the proxy before running the online update without this option?
BTW: Older releases used to offer a shell on virtual terminals. This was convenient in the case of problems. This also don't seem to be available any longer. Why?
Josef Wolf wrote:
Hello,
I tried to install opensuse11.3 behind a firewall. The installer for older releases used to offer the possibility to deactivate automatic configuration (directly after accepting the license). When this option was checked, it was possible to configure the proxy (and hostname and more things) before the online-update was run. This "deactivate automatic configuration" button seems no longer to exist.
No, it's still there.
So, how am I supposed to configure the proxy before running the online update without this option?
One option is over the kernel command line - I don't know the syntax, but I'm pretty certain it is possible.
BTW: Older releases used to offer a shell on virtual terminals. This was convenient in the case of problems. This also don't seem to be available any longer. Why?
I think it's also still there - doesn't Ctrl-Alt-F1 work?
On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 06:13:31PM +0100, Per Jessen wrote:
Josef Wolf wrote:
Hello,
I tried to install opensuse11.3 behind a firewall. The installer for older releases used to offer the possibility to deactivate automatic configuration (directly after accepting the license). When this option was checked, it was possible to configure the proxy (and hostname and more things) before the online-update was run. This "deactivate automatic configuration" button seems no longer to exist.
No, it's still there.
So how do I get there? I tried three times: after accepting license, I get to the clock settings instead of this aforementioned screen. During the whole install procedure, there is no one button to disable this automatic configuration.
So, how am I supposed to configure the proxy before running the online update without this option?
One option is over the kernel command line - I don't know the syntax, but I'm pretty certain it is possible.
Are you sure you are not talking about a shell prompt?
BTW: Older releases used to offer a shell on virtual terminals. This was convenient in the case of problems. This also don't seem to be available any longer. Why?
I think it's also still there - doesn't Ctrl-Alt-F1 work?
No, they don't. All those Ctrl-Alt-F[1..12] give me, are some statistics and logs. But none of them have a shell running or say something about how to start a shell. (Older releases said something like "press ENTER for shell" or something).
Josef Wolf wrote:
On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 06:13:31PM +0100, Per Jessen wrote:
Josef Wolf wrote:
Hello,
I tried to install opensuse11.3 behind a firewall. The installer for older releases used to offer the possibility to deactivate automatic configuration (directly after accepting the license). When this option was checked, it was possible to configure the proxy (and hostname and more things) before the online-update was run. This "deactivate automatic configuration" button seems no longer to exist.
No, it's still there.
So how do I get there? I tried three times: after accepting license, I get to the clock settings instead of this aforementioned screen. During the whole install procedure, there is no one button to disable this automatic configuration.
I'll have to start an installation to tell you exactly where, but I know I disable it every time. It's a tickbox called "Automatic configuration" (or something like that).
So, how am I supposed to configure the proxy before running the online update without this option?
One option is over the kernel command line - I don't know the syntax, but I'm pretty certain it is possible.
Are you sure you are not talking about a shell prompt?
Yes. http://doc.opensuse.org/projects/YaST/SLES9/autoinstall/sles8/html/x1332.htm...
Look for "proxy" and "proxyport".
BTW: Older releases used to offer a shell on virtual terminals. This was convenient in the case of problems. This also don't seem to be available any longer. Why?
I think it's also still there - doesn't Ctrl-Alt-F1 work?
No, they don't. All those Ctrl-Alt-F[1..12] give me, are some statistics and logs. But none of them have a shell running or say something about how to start a shell. (Older releases said something like "press ENTER for shell" or something).
I'll have to try it - I regularly ue the shell for configuring lilo, so I'm sure I would have noticed.
Per Jessen wrote:
I'll have to start an installation to tell you exactly where, but I know I disable it every time. It's a tickbox called "Automatic configuration" (or something like that).
I've just started an installation of 11.4M5, and on the 2nd screen that is open to user input ("Installation Mode"), I see a tickbox with description = "Use automatic configuration". It is ticked by default.
BTW: Older releases used to offer a shell on virtual terminals. This was convenient in the case of problems. This also don't seem to be available any longer. Why?
I think it's also still there - doesn't Ctrl-Alt-F1 work?
No, they don't. All those Ctrl-Alt-F[1..12] give me, are some statistics and logs. But none of them have a shell running or say something about how to start a shell. (Older releases said something like "press ENTER for shell" or something).
I'll have to try it - I regularly ue the shell for configuring lilo, so I'm sure I would have noticed.
I see a console on 2, 5, 6 and 9.
On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 12:32:10PM +0100, Per Jessen wrote:
Per Jessen wrote:
I'll have to start an installation to tell you exactly where, but I know I disable it every time. It's a tickbox called "Automatic configuration" (or something like that).
I've just started an installation of 11.4M5, and on the 2nd screen that is open to user input ("Installation Mode"), I see a tickbox with description = "Use automatic configuration". It is ticked by default.
I don't get this screen on 11.3. Maybe it depends on installation media? I use openSUSE-11.3-KDE4-LiveCD-i686.iso, since install-cd iso don't seem to exist any more and I have a lot of boxes without DVD drive.
BTW: Older releases used to offer a shell on virtual terminals. This was convenient in the case of problems. This also don't seem to be available any longer. Why?
I think it's also still there - doesn't Ctrl-Alt-F1 work?
No, they don't. All those Ctrl-Alt-F[1..12] give me, are some statistics and logs. But none of them have a shell running or say something about how to start a shell. (Older releases said something like "press ENTER for shell" or something).
I'll have to try it - I regularly ue the shell for configuring lilo, so I'm sure I would have noticed.
I see a console on 2, 5, 6 and 9.
You use install-dvd or live cd?
Josef Wolf wrote:
On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 12:32:10PM +0100, Per Jessen wrote:
Per Jessen wrote:
I'll have to start an installation to tell you exactly where, but I know I disable it every time. It's a tickbox called "Automatic configuration" (or something like that).
I've just started an installation of 11.4M5, and on the 2nd screen that is open to user input ("Installation Mode"), I see a tickbox with description = "Use automatic configuration". It is ticked by default.
I don't get this screen on 11.3. Maybe it depends on installation media? I use openSUSE-11.3-KDE4-LiveCD-i686.iso, since install-cd iso don't seem to exist any more and I have a lot of boxes without DVD drive.
Yeah, there is only the Net-CD - I usually use that, from CD or USB stick.
BTW: Older releases used to offer a shell on virtual terminals. This was convenient in the case of problems. This also don't seem to be available any longer. Why?
I think it's also still there - doesn't Ctrl-Alt-F1 work?
No, they don't. All those Ctrl-Alt-F[1..12] give me, are some statistics and logs. But none of them have a shell running or say something about how to start a shell. (Older releases said something like "press ENTER for shell" or something).
I'll have to try it - I regularly ue the shell for configuring lilo, so I'm sure I would have noticed.
I see a console on 2, 5, 6 and 9.
You use install-dvd or live cd?
Net-ISO from CD.
On Friday 14 January 2011 18:24:08 Josef Wolf wrote:
On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 12:32:10PM +0100, Per Jessen wrote:
Per Jessen wrote:
I'll have to start an installation to tell you exactly where, but I know I disable it every time. It's a tickbox called "Automatic configuration" (or something like that).
I've just started an installation of 11.4M5, and on the 2nd screen that is open to user input ("Installation Mode"), I see a tickbox with description = "Use automatic configuration". It is ticked by default.
I don't get this screen on 11.3. Maybe it depends on installation media? I use openSUSE-11.3-KDE4-LiveCD-i686.iso, since install-cd iso don't seem to exist any more and I have a lot of boxes without DVD drive.
The live environment is a running system, which contains all the files a normal install would have. It just copies the temporary file system to the disk.
In the life environment user "Linux" is used. So, if you set your new user all settings for "Linux" are forgotten, including those for NetworkManager.
If you set your networking in yast, these settings should be copied along to the installed system. Also in yast, you can set your system-wide proxy configuration.
Since the live installer just copies the running live system to disk, there are no advanced options in the installer. I even noticed, if you use a custom partition scheme, it will fail. Didn't spend much attention to this and just used the NET installer instead.
Anyway, the bottom line is, if you want to change system settings for the system that will be installed, modify them in your running live environment, like you would do on any running system. After that you can use the installer to copy those files to your new filesystem. User specific settings for "Linux" will be lost.
The NET-install CD would be a better alternative if you want more custom settings for your system. If you got a lot of systems to install, and you are worried about bandwidth, you can set up your own repository by copying the DVD to an FTP server in your own network and use that one as an installation source. (The installer will prompt you for the repository address if the connection fails, which it will do if your Internet has to go trough a proxy.)
Greetings,
Tim Aka Muhlemmer
BTW: Older releases used to offer a shell on virtual terminals. This was convenient in the case of problems. This also don't seem to be available any longer. Why?
I think it's also still there - doesn't Ctrl-Alt-F1 work?
No, they don't. All those Ctrl-Alt-F[1..12] give me, are some statistics and logs. But none of them have a shell running or say something about how to start a shell. (Older releases said something like "press ENTER for shell" or something).
I'll have to try it - I regularly ue the shell for configuring lilo, so I'm sure I would have noticed.
I see a console on 2, 5, 6 and 9.
You use install-dvd or live cd?
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 10:18:53PM +0100, Tim Mohlmann wrote:
On Friday 14 January 2011 18:24:08 Josef Wolf wrote:
On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 12:32:10PM +0100, Per Jessen wrote:
Per Jessen wrote:
I'll have to start an installation to tell you exactly where, but I know I disable it every time. It's a tickbox called "Automatic configuration" (or something like that).
I've just started an installation of 11.4M5, and on the 2nd screen that is open to user input ("Installation Mode"), I see a tickbox with description = "Use automatic configuration". It is ticked by default.
I don't get this screen on 11.3. Maybe it depends on installation media? I use openSUSE-11.3-KDE4-LiveCD-i686.iso, since install-cd iso don't seem to exist any more and I have a lot of boxes without DVD drive.
The live environment is a running system, which contains all the files a normal install would have. It just copies the temporary file system to the disk.
I don't boot the live system for installation. Instead, I choose the Install option from the boot prompt. This works like the old (non-live) install-CD. It's just that the screen to deactivate automatic configuration is missing.
In the life environment user "Linux" is used. So, if you set your new user all settings for "Linux" are forgotten, including those for NetworkManager.
If you set your networking in yast, these settings should be copied along to the installed system. Also in yast, you can set your system-wide proxy configuration.
This is just too much manual intervention. It was soo easy with the old install-CD. Why is it not available anymore?
The NET-install CD would be a better alternative if you want more custom settings for your system. If you got a lot of systems to install, and you are worried about bandwidth, you can set up your own repository by copying the DVD to an FTP server in your own network and use that one as an installation source. (The installer will prompt you for the repository address if the connection fails, which it will do if your Internet has to go trough a proxy.)
Ugh, this is even more work just to do a simple install.
Josef Wolf wrote:
If you set your networking in yast, these settings should be copied along to the installed system. Also in yast, you can set your system-wide proxy configuration.
This is just too much manual intervention. It was soo easy with the old install-CD. Why is it not available anymore?
The CD format went away quite a while ago. I still have 6 CDs with SuSE Linux 8.2 somewhere, but that might have been the last one.
The NET-install CD would be a better alternative if you want more custom settings for your system. If you got a lot of systems to install, and you are worried about bandwidth, you can set up your own repository by copying the DVD to an FTP server in your own network and use that one as an installation source. (The installer will prompt you for the repository address if the connection fails, which it will do if your Internet has to go trough a proxy.)
Ugh, this is even more work just to do a simple install.
Josef, I can't quite follow your problem any more - getting access to the proxy has been solved (afair), so what is left?
On Friday 04 Feb 2011 10:51:06 Per Jessen wrote:
Josef Wolf wrote:
This is just too much manual intervention. It was soo easy with the old install-CD. Why is it not available anymore?
You can install from the KDE 4 Live CD.
Probably because they think that most people how high speed unlimited downloads. But for those that don't this is why I am selling the Retail Boxed version as well as promoting the brand on the high street.
The CD format went away quite a while ago. I still have 6 CDs with SuSE Linux 8.2 somewhere, but that might have been the last one.
I know that 9.0 and maybe 9.3 also had CD's (this is where i started) but you can install directory from the live cd.. there is an install option on the 11.3 kde 4 live cd anyway.
The NET-install CD would be a better alternative if you want more custom settings for your system. If you got a lot of systems to install, and you are worried about bandwidth, you can set up your own repository by copying the DVD to an FTP server in your own network and use that one as an installation source. (The installer will prompt you for the repository address if the connection fails, which it will do if your Internet has to go trough a proxy.)
Ugh, this is even more work just to do a simple install.
Like I said the live cd or the net cd allow simple installations
On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 08:08:26AM +0100, Per Jessen wrote:
Josef Wolf wrote:
On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 06:13:31PM +0100, Per Jessen wrote:
Josef Wolf wrote:
Hello,
I tried to install opensuse11.3 behind a firewall. The installer for older releases used to offer the possibility to deactivate automatic configuration (directly after accepting the license). When this option was checked, it was possible to configure the proxy (and hostname and more things) before the online-update was run. This "deactivate automatic configuration" button seems no longer to exist.
No, it's still there.
So how do I get there? I tried three times: after accepting license, I get to the clock settings instead of this aforementioned screen. During the whole install procedure, there is no one button to disable this automatic configuration.
I'll have to start an installation to tell you exactly where, but I know I disable it every time. It's a tickbox called "Automatic configuration" (or something like that).
Yeah, I know where it used to be in earlier releases. Right after accepting the license before configuring the time zone, as I wrote above. But now it's no longer there.
So, how am I supposed to configure the proxy before running the online update without this option?
One option is over the kernel command line - I don't know the syntax, but I'm pretty certain it is possible.
Are you sure you are not talking about a shell prompt?
Yes. http://doc.opensuse.org/projects/YaST/SLES9/autoinstall/sles8/html/x1332.htm...
Look for "proxy" and "proxyport".
I don't think this will work in my case, since our proxy requires authentication :-((
BTW: Older releases used to offer a shell on virtual terminals. This was convenient in the case of problems. This also don't seem to be available any longer. Why?
I think it's also still there - doesn't Ctrl-Alt-F1 work?
No, they don't. All those Ctrl-Alt-F[1..12] give me, are some statistics and logs. But none of them have a shell running or say something about how to start a shell. (Older releases said something like "press ENTER for shell" or something).
I'll have to try it - I regularly ue the shell for configuring lilo, so I'm sure I would have noticed.
I bet they removed it to make it more "user friendly" (or more windows-like).
Josef Wolf wrote:
http://doc.opensuse.org/projects/YaST/SLES9/autoinstall/sles8/html/x1332.htm...
Look for "proxy" and "proxyport".
I don't think this will work in my case, since our proxy requires authentication :-((
You might be surprised:
proxy=http://foo:bar@proxy.foo.org:3128
(from http://de.opensuse.org/Linuxrc )
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