At 18:52:45 on Monday Monday 29 December 2008, Felix Miata wrote: Hi, Felix!

On 2008/12/29 18:11 (GMT+0200) Stan Goodman composed:

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I decided to replace the eCS on my laptop machine with openSuSE too, using v11.1 -- which would give me the opportunity to evaluate that new version before putting it on the desktop machine too.

How old & what model is laptop?

This is a T21 that I bought refurbished. Its BIOS is dated 2001.

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After the installation, I discovered that no bootable CD or DVD is able to boot the system. It doesn't matter what is in the CD drive, the system boots to the installed openSuSE v11.1, even if I enter the BIOS to set booting from the CDROM drive (which should anyway not be necessary).

Did you try disabling the HD controller too (just as a test)? Does the controller have a selection of possible modes (e.g. AHCI, compatible, enhanced, etc)? Maybe AHCI or enhanced is buggy with your CD drive?

Good idea. I haven't done that, but I will, probably tomorrow. I don't think the controller has a mode selection like that, but I will try to find out.

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What can have caused this to happen, and how can I clear the problem?

In the past, certain model CD drives have had their firmware corrupted by flawed drivers. Possibly this has happened to yours. Check your drive's model number for possible firmware update that might fix it if that is the problem. -- "Unless the Lord builds the house, its builders labor in vain." Psalm 127:1 NIV

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At 19:21:08 on Monday Monday 29 December 2008, Oddball wrote:

Stan Goodman schreef:

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I decided to replace the eCS on my laptop machine with openSuSE too, using v11.1 -- which would give me the opportunity to evaluate that new version before putting it on the desktop machine too.

After the installation, I discovered that no bootable CD or DVD is able to boot the system. It doesn't matter what is in the CD drive, the system boots to the installed openSuSE v11.1, even if I enter the BIOS to set booting from the CDROM drive (which should anyway not be necessary).

What can have caused this to happen, and how can I clear the problem?

Sometimes, on (older) laptops, one has to press a key during bios-time to trigger cd-boot, did you try that?

That has never been necessary.

Enjoy your time around,

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Mark Misulich schreef:

On Mon, 2008-12-29 at 18:21 +0100, Oddball wrote:

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Sometimes, on (older) laptops, one has to press a key during bios-time to trigger cd-boot, did you try that?

Hi, what key might that magic key be? I am having the same or similar problem on my laptop, and started a thread the day before yesterday about it.

On the laptop that I am trying to install 11.1, I have eight different linux OS's installed. I think that the problem occurred after I installed the latest linuxPCos on one of the partitions. I went on a business trip for two weeks between the time that I did that and then tried to install 11.1, so I think that is what I did. When I then tried to install opensuse 11.1 or any other distro, including using gparted to try to reformat the drive, the computer won't boot from the dvd drive. I have even tried to change hard drives and it still won't do it.

Mark Misulich

mostly the 'c' is used, and if pressed more than once, mostly an acknowledging 'beep' is heard.. My Compaq Armada E500 only boots from cd when pressed 'c', during first boot seconds.. (the time one can enter the bios.) -- Enjoy your time around, Oddball (M9.) (Now or never...) OS: Linux 2.6.27.8-1-default x86_64 Huidige gebruiker: oddball@AMD64x2-sfn1 Systeem: openSUSE 11.2 Alpha 0 (x86_64) KDE: 4.1.3 (KDE 4.1.3) "release 4.18" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Brian K. White schreef:

----- Original Message ----- From: "Oddball" To: Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 2:29 PM Subject: Re: [opensuse] After installation of v11.1, no longer possible to boot system from a bootable CD.

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Mark Misulich schreef:

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On Mon, 2008-12-29 at 18:21 +0100, Oddball wrote:

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Sometimes, on (older) laptops, one has to press a key during bios-time to trigger cd-boot, did you try that?

Hi, what key might that magic key be? I am having the same or similar problem on my laptop, and started a thread the day before yesterday about it.

On the laptop that I am trying to install 11.1, I have eight different linux OS's installed. I think that the problem occurred after I installed the latest linuxPCos on one of the partitions. I went on a business trip for two weeks between the time that I did that and then tried to install 11.1, so I think that is what I did. When I then tried to install opensuse 11.1 or any other distro, including using gparted to try to reformat the drive, the computer won't boot from the dvd drive. I have even tried to change hard drives and it still won't do it.

Mark Misulich

mostly the 'c' is used, and if pressed more than once, mostly an

Really? I've seen Enter (at the right time), F1, F2, F4, F10, F11, F12, Del, nothing (no such boot time key other than the one to get into the main bios setup, which of course can be used to change the boot device too), and perhaps a few oddball others like s or ctrl-s or printscreen or scrollock but I don't think I've ever seen c actually. Certainly not "mostly" even if it was on some.

I think the correct answer is just to say that the hint is just a hint, a pointer, and that you are meant to go look up the details of your particular model of your own pc. Or just watch your bios/boot messages closer. We can't know.

The value in the answer is simply that maybe they hadn't thought of the fact that a special keypress was needed, or that it could be tried as a work-around even if it was never required before as the OP recently claimed.

It was meant as hint, indeed. When i did repair and reinstall PC's and laptops, years ago i noticed that, i do not mean the key to enter bios, just to press any key, to boot from cd. Because you have very little time to do this, i used 'c', from cd. ( at that time there werent even dvd's ;) -- Enjoy your time around, Oddball (M9.) (Now or never...) OS: Linux 2.6.27.8-1-default x86_64 Huidige gebruiker: oddball@AMD64x2-sfn1 Systeem: openSUSE 11.2 Alpha 0 (x86_64) KDE: 4.1.3 (KDE 4.1.3) "release 4.18" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org