[opensuse] KDE4.5 good impression...But
Hello listmembers, Recently I installed KDE4.5 onto my 11.2, by following opensSUSE guidance and I've been very well impressed of this new DE release. Now if I try a zypper ref; zypper up, then I notice several KDE packages available but since they come from different vendor (OBS instead of openSUSE) they went no installed. In these cases I know, I should limit the repos to "dup" with --repo, or --from switch, but wonder if doing so then I risk to broke something. TKS, -- Marco Calistri <amdturion> Whoever truly understands my music is free from the miseries that haunt the world. -- Ludwig van Beethoven -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Hi listmates, - I just took the plunge from 11.1 to 11.3. - Vauw...looks really good. I did run into one issue, though. When I download VMware server (VMware-server-2.0.2-203138.i386.rpm), the vmware-config.pl scripts fails with, quote: "The path "/usr/src/linux/include" is a kernel header file directory, but it does not contain the file "linux/version.h" as expected. This can happen if the kernel has never been built, or if you have invoked the "make mrproper" command in your kernel directory. In any case, you may want to rebuild your kernel." Well...before I proceeded, I did install (from within YaST) the 'Kernel development' set of files, some 300Mbytes or so. My /usr/src/ looks like this - and it does contain lots of headerfiles and so. It does not, however, contain a 'version.h' file... lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 25 aug 12:04 linux -> linux-2.6.34-12/ drwxr-xr-x 24 root root 4096 25 aug 12:32 linux-2.6.34-12/ drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 25 aug 12:06 linux-2.6.34-12-obj/ drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 25 aug 12:06 linux-obj/ drwxr-xr-x 8 root root 4096 6 jul 07:39 packages/ uname -r gives: 2.6.34-12-desktop As you can tell, my running kernel i 2.6.34-12-desktop. Yes..I did restart my machine after the YaST download. I did search google and found lots of problems and no answers.. Anyone?? As always, all help is greatly appreciated! Best regards, Verner Kjærsgaard Denmark. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 08/25/2010 07:41 AM, Verner Kjærsgaard pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
Hi listmates,
- I just took the plunge from 11.1 to 11.3. - Vauw...looks really good.
I did run into one issue, though. When I download VMware server (VMware-server-2.0.2-203138.i386.rpm), the vmware-config.pl scripts fails with, quote:
"The path "/usr/src/linux/include" is a kernel header file directory, but it does not contain the file "linux/version.h" as expected. This can happen if the kernel has never been built, or if you have invoked the "make mrproper" command in your kernel directory. In any case, you may want to rebuild your kernel."
Well...before I proceeded, I did install (from within YaST) the 'Kernel development' set of files, some 300Mbytes or so.
My /usr/src/ looks like this - and it does contain lots of headerfiles and so. It does not, however, contain a 'version.h' file...
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 25 aug 12:04 linux -> linux-2.6.34-12/ drwxr-xr-x 24 root root 4096 25 aug 12:32 linux-2.6.34-12/ drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 25 aug 12:06 linux-2.6.34-12-obj/ drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 25 aug 12:06 linux-obj/ drwxr-xr-x 8 root root 4096 6 jul 07:39 packages/
uname -r gives: 2.6.34-12-desktop As you can tell, my running kernel i 2.6.34-12-desktop.
Yes..I did restart my machine after the YaST download.
I did search google and found lots of problems and no answers..
Anyone??
As always, all help is greatly appreciated!
As root cd /usr/src/linux make cloneconfig make prepare Should resolve the problem. -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Den 25-08-2010 13:51, Ken Schneider - openSUSE skrev:
On 08/25/2010 07:41 AM, Verner Kjærsgaard pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
Hi listmates,
- I just took the plunge from 11.1 to 11.3. - Vauw...looks really good.
I did run into one issue, though. When I download VMware server (VMware-server-2.0.2-203138.i386.rpm), the vmware-config.pl scripts fails with, quote:
"The path "/usr/src/linux/include" is a kernel header file directory, but it does not contain the file "linux/version.h" as expected. This can happen if the kernel has never been built, or if you have invoked the "make mrproper" command in your kernel directory. In any case, you may want to rebuild your kernel."
Well...before I proceeded, I did install (from within YaST) the 'Kernel development' set of files, some 300Mbytes or so.
My /usr/src/ looks like this - and it does contain lots of headerfiles and so. It does not, however, contain a 'version.h' file...
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 25 aug 12:04 linux -> linux-2.6.34-12/ drwxr-xr-x 24 root root 4096 25 aug 12:32 linux-2.6.34-12/ drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 25 aug 12:06 linux-2.6.34-12-obj/ drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 25 aug 12:06 linux-obj/ drwxr-xr-x 8 root root 4096 6 jul 07:39 packages/
uname -r gives: 2.6.34-12-desktop As you can tell, my running kernel i 2.6.34-12-desktop.
Yes..I did restart my machine after the YaST download.
I did search google and found lots of problems and no answers..
Anyone??
As always, all help is greatly appreciated!
As root
cd /usr/src/linux make cloneconfig make prepare
Should resolve the problem.
- thank you! - will try that! - Did I hi-jack this thread? - I certainly did not mean to, if so, I apologize! Best regards, Verner -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Den 25-08-2010 15:41, Verner Kjærsgaard skrev:
.....lots of cut away..........
- thank you! - will try that!
- Did I hi-jack this thread? - I certainly did not mean to, if so, I apologize!
Best regards, Verner
Hi again, - sorry, nope didn't work. - this is what I get: The directory of kernel headers (version @@VMWARE@@ UTS_RELEASE) does not match your running kernel (version 2.6.34-12-desktop). Even if the module were to compile successfully, it would not load into the running kernel. What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] uname -r gives: 2.6.34-12-desktop - what info can I provide that is of help? Best regards, Verner -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 08/25/2010 09:47 AM, Verner Kjærsgaard pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
Den 25-08-2010 15:41, Verner Kjærsgaard skrev:
.....lots of cut away..........
- thank you! - will try that!
- Did I hi-jack this thread? - I certainly did not mean to, if so, I apologize!
Best regards, Verner
Hi again,
- sorry, nope didn't work. - this is what I get:
The directory of kernel headers (version @@VMWARE@@ UTS_RELEASE) does not match your running kernel (version 2.6.34-12-desktop). Even if the module were to compile successfully, it would not load into the running kernel.
What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include]
uname -r gives: 2.6.34-12-desktop
- what info can I provide that is of help?
Check to make sure that the version of the installed kernel source matches the version of the running kernel. -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 2010-08-25 15:41, Verner Kjærsgaard wrote:
- Did I hi-jack this thread? - I certainly did not mean to, if so, I apologize!
Yes, you did... -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.2 x86_64 "Emerald" GM (Elessar))
* Ken Schneider - openSUSE (suse-list3@bout-tyme.net) [20100825 13:52]:
As root
cd /usr/src/linux make cloneconfig make prepare
Should resolve the problem.
WRONG! Folks, please do read /usr/share/doc/packages/kernel-source/README.SUSE, it's there for a reason. If you are using one of kernels as provided by the distribution (i.e. like kernel-default), everything you need is already present in /usr/src/linux-obj/$ARCH/$FLAVOR. Philipp -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wed, 2010-08-25 at 16:01 +0200, Philipp Thomas wrote:
* Ken Schneider - openSUSE (suse-list3@bout-tyme.net) [20100825 13:52]:
As root
cd /usr/src/linux make cloneconfig make prepare
Should resolve the problem.
WRONG! Folks, please do read /usr/share/doc/packages/kernel-source/README.SUSE, it's there for a reason. If you are using one of kernels as provided by the distribution (i.e. like kernel-default), everything you need is already present in /usr/src/linux-obj/$ARCH/$FLAVOR.
And third-party kernel module Makefiles don't need to do anything to locate the things located here? On around line 194 in my version of the README, it mentions changing to this directory to compile a module. But seems to be for source located in the kernel source tree. How about for source located elsewhere. Like VMWare things. In another thread here I am trying to compile vmmon for vmplayer. It is also failing. Maybe it is something to do with this? -- Roger Oberholtzer OPQ Systems / Ramböll RST Ramböll Sverige AB Krukmakargatan 21 P.O. Box 17009 SE-104 62 Stockholm, Sweden Office: Int +46 10-615 60 20 Mobile: Int +46 70-815 1696 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
* Roger Oberholtzer (roger@opq.se) [20100825 16:22]:
And third-party kernel module Makefiles don't need to do anything to locate the things located here?
Of cause they do, but it should suffice to pass /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build as the path to the kernel sources. If you look at the symlink you'll find that it points to a directory below /usr/src/linux-obj. Philipp -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wed, 2010-08-25 at 16:28 +0200, Philipp Thomas wrote:
* Roger Oberholtzer (roger@opq.se) [20100825 16:22]:
And third-party kernel module Makefiles don't need to do anything to locate the things located here?
Of cause they do, but it should suffice to pass /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build as the path to the kernel sources. If you look at the symlink you'll find that it points to a directory below /usr/src/linux-obj.
Isn't /lib/modules where the compiled things wind up? I did not think it was consulted when a module is being compiled. I thought that was /usr/src/linux. Things in /lib/modules have already completed the compilation step. So I am talking about earlier in the chain of events.
Philipp
-- Roger Oberholtzer OPQ Systems / Ramböll RST Ramböll Sverige AB Krukmakargatan 21 P.O. Box 17009 SE-104 62 Stockholm, Sweden Office: Int +46 10-615 60 20 Mobile: Int +46 70-815 1696 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
* Roger Oberholtzer (roger@opq.se) [20100825 17:44]:
Isn't /lib/modules where the compiled things wind up? I did not think it was consulted when a module is being compiled.
A correctly written script as for instance the nvidia one uses that symlink as one of several possible plases to look for the sources. /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build was introduced to point to the sources from which the modules for the specified kernel were built.
Things in /lib/modules have already completed the compilation step. So I am talking about earlier in the chain of events.
Have you actually looked at the output of ls -ld /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build ? I guess not as otherwise you wouldn't state the above. When compiling modules for a given kernel, the most interesting things are the path to the sources and the files generated when building the kernel. On an openSUSE system these differ because we want to build drivers for multiple kernel flavours from the same sources. Therefor the autogenerated files and the necessary makefile are stored below /usr/src/linux-obj/<architecture>/<kernel_flavour/ A correctly written script will use the second method described in the README.suse I mentioned to build an external module. Philipp -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 2010-08-25 19:11, Philipp Thomas wrote:
A correctly written script will use the second method described in the README.suse I mentioned to build an external module.
And, is the vmware config script a correctly written script? I guess not. Because it gives people lots of problems. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.2 x86_64 "Emerald" GM (Elessar))
On Wed, 2010-08-25 at 19:11 +0200, Philipp Thomas wrote:
* Roger Oberholtzer (roger@opq.se) [20100825 17:44]:
Isn't /lib/modules where the compiled things wind up? I did not think it was consulted when a module is being compiled.
A correctly written script as for instance the nvidia one uses that symlink as one of several possible plases to look for the sources. /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build was introduced to point to the sources from which the modules for the specified kernel were built.
Things in /lib/modules have already completed the compilation step. So I am talking about earlier in the chain of events.
Have you actually looked at the output of
ls -ld /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build
? I guess not as otherwise you wouldn't state the above. When compiling modules for a given kernel, the most interesting things are the path to the sources and the files generated when building the kernel. On an openSUSE system these differ because we want to build drivers for multiple kernel flavours from the same sources. Therefor the autogenerated files and the necessary makefile are stored below /usr/src/linux-obj/<architecture>/<kernel_flavour/ A correctly written script will use the second method described in the README.suse I mentioned to build an external module.
Philipp
I'm getting old. I had to refer to one of my own out-of-kernel Makefiles to see how I do it. These work in drivers I have on OBS that build for many openSUSE releases and Factory. I do this: KERNEL_BUILD := /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build obj-m := dc_photocell.o MAKEFLAGS += --no-print-directory modules modules_install clean: $(MAKE) -C $(KERNEL_BUILD) M=$(CURDIR) $@ So I was remembering wrong. Not the first time. But the vmware player makefile also uses the /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build idiom to locate things. So I can't figure why I have the problem discussed in the other thread about vmplayer kernel modules (not exactly the same problem as here). I am going to try the links the OP in this thread suggested about making links. I just need to get vmplayer running again. But I will be looking in to replacing it with virtual box. BTW, I blame OBS for my lapse of memory. You put things there and then they just keep getting rebuilt as new things come along. Who can remember things they are not required to fiddle with all the time :) -- Roger Oberholtzer OPQ Systems / Ramböll RST Ramböll Sverige AB Krukmakargatan 21 P.O. Box 17009 SE-104 62 Stockholm, Sweden Office: Int +46 10-615 60 20 Mobile: Int +46 70-815 1696 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 08/25/2010 10:01 AM, Philipp Thomas pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
* Ken Schneider - openSUSE (suse-list3@bout-tyme.net) [20100825 13:52]:
As root
cd /usr/src/linux make cloneconfig make prepare
Should resolve the problem.
WRONG! Folks, please do read /usr/share/doc/packages/kernel-source/README.SUSE, it's there for a reason. If you are using one of kernels as provided by the distribution (i.e. like kernel-default), everything you need is already present in /usr/src/linux-obj/$ARCH/$FLAVOR.
Philipp
Then get VMware to fix their source! The above procedure DOES create the file that the VMware sources are looking for. -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
* Ken Schneider - openSUSE (suse-list3@bout-tyme.net) [20100825 16:32]:
Then get VMware to fix their source! The above procedure DOES create the file that the VMware sources are looking for.
You know perfectly well that it takes ages for vmware to change things. But everything that the steps you posted will create is already present in the directory I mentioned. Just pass the script the right directory. Philipp -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wed, 25 Aug 2010 16:43:14 +0200 Philipp Thomas <pth@suse.de> wrote:
* Ken Schneider - openSUSE (suse-list3@bout-tyme.net) [20100825 16:32]:
Then get VMware to fix their source! The above procedure DOES create the file that the VMware sources are looking for.
You know perfectly well that it takes ages for vmware to change things. But everything that the steps you posted will create is already present in the directory I mentioned. Just pass the script the right directory.
Philipp Hi I had to create softlinks to get vmware workstation to compile the modules... Have a read here; http://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-help-here/applications/444059-vmware-... http://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-help-here/applications/442789-vmware-...
-- Cheers Malcolm °¿° (Linux Counter #276890) openSUSE 11.3 (x86_64) Kernel 2.6.34-12-default up 4 days 16:53, 2 users, load average: 0.23, 0.19, 0.14 GPU GeForce 8600 GTS Silent - Driver Version: 256.44 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 08/25/2010 10:43 AM, Philipp Thomas pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
* Ken Schneider - openSUSE (suse-list3@bout-tyme.net) [20100825 16:32]:
Then get VMware to fix their source! The above procedure DOES create the file that the VMware sources are looking for.
You know perfectly well that it takes ages for vmware to change things. But everything that the steps you posted will create is already present in the directory I mentioned. Just pass the script the right directory.
Philipp
Which is why I stopped using it years ago. I now use VirtualBox for my needs and find it much easier to use and more user friendly. -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Den 25-08-2010 17:04, Ken Schneider - openSUSE skrev:
On 08/25/2010 10:43 AM, Philipp Thomas pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
* Ken Schneider - openSUSE (suse-list3@bout-tyme.net) [20100825 16:32]:
Then get VMware to fix their source! The above procedure DOES create the file that the VMware sources are looking for.
You know perfectly well that it takes ages for vmware to change things. But everything that the steps you posted will create is already present in the directory I mentioned. Just pass the script the right directory.
Philipp
Which is why I stopped using it years ago. I now use VirtualBox for my needs and find it much easier to use and more user friendly.
I too am VERY tempted to opt for VirtualBox which I have used a little. Only I have one important vmware image that I need to get running. Can I xvfer this vmware image to virtualbox? Best regards, Verner -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 08/25/2010 12:03 PM, Verner Kjærsgaard pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
Den 25-08-2010 17:04, Ken Schneider - openSUSE skrev:
On 08/25/2010 10:43 AM, Philipp Thomas pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
* Ken Schneider - openSUSE (suse-list3@bout-tyme.net) [20100825 16:32]:
Then get VMware to fix their source! The above procedure DOES create the file that the VMware sources are looking for.
You know perfectly well that it takes ages for vmware to change things. But everything that the steps you posted will create is already present in the directory I mentioned. Just pass the script the right directory.
Philipp
Which is why I stopped using it years ago. I now use VirtualBox for my needs and find it much easier to use and more user friendly.
I too am VERY tempted to opt for VirtualBox which I have used a little. Only I have one important vmware image that I need to get running. Can I xvfer this vmware image to virtualbox?
Yes, VB can use it directly. My suggestion is to remove the vmware tools first. Add the image using the Virtual Image Manager in VB to use the image in VB machine. -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 2010-08-25 17:04, Ken Schneider - openSUSE wrote:
On 08/25/2010 10:43 AM, Philipp Thomas pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
* Ken Schneider - openSUSE (suse-list3@bout-tyme.net) [20100825 16:32]:
Then get VMware to fix their source! The above procedure DOES create the file that the VMware sources are looking for.
You know perfectly well that it takes ages for vmware to change things. But everything that the steps you posted will create is already present in the directory I mentioned. Just pass the script the right directory.
There are third party scripts that help make the badly written vmware config script to run. But the one I use doesn't work with 11.3, I believe. <http://radu.cotescu.com/2010/01/19/how-to-install-vmware-server-ubuntu-fedora-opensuse/>
Which is why I stopped using it years ago. I now use VirtualBox for my needs and find it much easier to use and more user friendly.
Unfortunately, for some of us VB is not an option. It does not support old oses, like msdos, win-me... -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.2 x86_64 "Emerald" GM (Elessar))
On 2010-08-25 16:01, Philipp Thomas wrote:
* Ken Schneider - openSUSE () [20100825 13:52]:
As root
cd /usr/src/linux make cloneconfig make prepare
Should resolve the problem.
WRONG! Folks, please do read /usr/share/doc/packages/kernel-source/README.SUSE, it's there for a reason. If you are using one of kernels as provided by the distribution (i.e. like kernel-default), everything you need is already present in /usr/src/linux-obj/$ARCH/$FLAVOR.
which reads: ]> BUILDING ADDITIONAL (EXTERNAL) MODULES ... ]> The first method involves the following steps: ]> ]> (1) Install kernel-source.$ARCH.rpm. ]> ]> (2) Configure the kernel, see HOW TO CONFIGURE THE KERNEL SOURCES. ]> ]> (3) Create files required for compiling external modules: ]> ``make scripts'' and ``make prepare''.
:-)
-- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.2 x86_64 "Emerald" GM (Elessar))
Den 26-08-2010 01:51, Carlos E. R. skrev:
On 2010-08-25 16:01, Philipp Thomas wrote:
* Ken Schneider - openSUSE () [20100825 13:52]:
As root
cd /usr/src/linux make cloneconfig make prepare
Should resolve the problem.
WRONG! Folks, please do read /usr/share/doc/packages/kernel-source/README.SUSE, it's there for a reason. If you are using one of kernels as provided by the distribution (i.e. like kernel-default), everything you need is already present in /usr/src/linux-obj/$ARCH/$FLAVOR.
which reads:
]> BUILDING ADDITIONAL (EXTERNAL) MODULES
...
]> The first method involves the following steps: ]> ]> (1) Install kernel-source.$ARCH.rpm. ]> ]> (2) Configure the kernel, see HOW TO CONFIGURE THE KERNEL SOURCES. ]> ]> (3) Create files required for compiling external modules: ]> ``make scripts'' and ``make prepare''.
:-)
Thank you to all in this discussion! My kernel is: 2.6.34-12-desktop To sum things up, I'm giving up VMware and are going for VirtualBox. VMware-config says: The directory of kernel headers (version @@VMWARE@@ UTS_RELEASE) does not match your running kernel (version 2.6.34-12-desktop) I followed all hints, tips and tricks given in this discussion - all to no avail :-( This is the contents of /usr/src: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 25 aug 12:04 linux -> linux-2.6.34-12/ drwxr-xr-x 25 root root 4096 26 aug 09:09 linux-2.6.34-12/ drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 25 aug 22:22 linux-2.6.34-12-obj/ drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 25 aug 22:22 linux-obj/ drwxr-xr-x 8 root root 4096 6 jul 07:39 packages/ while this is the (part of) contents of /usr/src/linux: ---- drwxr-xr-x 36 root root 4096 25 aug 22:24 firmware/ drwxr-xr-x 74 root root 4096 25 aug 22:24 fs/ drwxr-xr-x 22 root root 4096 25 aug 22:19 include/ drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 25 aug 22:24 init/ drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 25 aug 22:24 ipc/ and this is the contents (part of) of include from above: --------- -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 253 16 maj 23:17 Kbuild drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 25 aug 22:19 keys/ drwxr-xr-x 34 root root 36864 26 aug 09:09 linux/ drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 25 aug 22:19 math-emu/ --------- and this is then the contents (part of) of linux from above: --------- drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 25 aug 22:19 uwb/ -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 25804 16 maj 23:17 uwb.h -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 955 5 jul 14:33 vermagic.h -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 97 25 aug 15:42 version.h -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 161 16 maj 23:17 veth.h --------- and this is the contents of version.h from above: #define LINUX_VERSION_CODE 132642 #define KERNEL_VERSION(a,b,c) (((a) << 16) + ((b) << 8) + (c)) I guess it's not rocked science to get working - but for VMware it certainly is a shame. Why on earth can such knowledgeable people (The VMware people that is) not GET THIS THING RIGHT? Enough rant. Thanks againg to everyone! Best regards Verner -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 09:23, Verner Kjærsgaard wrote:
To sum things up, I'm giving up VMware and are going for VirtualBox.
You're not alone on this decision. Most people I work with have done the same... VMWare is a good product and has it's benefits and uses, but VirtualBox just works without needing to tinker. I gave up on VMWare about a year ago, and don't miss it at all. C. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Den 26-08-2010 09:45, C skrev:
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 09:23, Verner Kjærsgaard wrote:
To sum things up, I'm giving up VMware and are going for VirtualBox.
You're not alone on this decision. Most people I work with have done the same... VMWare is a good product and has it's benefits and uses, but VirtualBox just works without needing to tinker. I gave up on VMWare about a year ago, and don't miss it at all.
C.
I'm sorry for bothering you fine people again, but I must report this... I first installed the open source edition from within YaST. Tooke me about 2 minutes. And I was airborne. I then installed a Windows2003 server as a guest. Took me 1 hour or so. I then remembered that the OSS version doesn't support USB which I need. So I un-installed the OSS version, downloaded the non-free version and ran the RPM. Took me about 3 minutes. The software started compiling a needed module for my running kernel. Succesful. I then fired up VB which duly fired up my Win2003 only this time with USB support. Which works. And...BTW...here are the file sizes: 42148716 26 aug 20:03 VirtualBox-3.2-3.2.8_64453_openSUSE113-1.i586.rpm 504809788 25 aug 10:47 VMware-server-2.0.2-203138.i386.rpm VMware being more than 10 times as big. I'm hooked on VB from now on. Thanks for all advise! -- ------------------------------------ Med venlig hilsen Verner Kjærsgaard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 08/26/2010 03:23 AM, Verner Kjærsgaard wrote: [stuff deleted]
Thank you to all in this discussion! My kernel is: 2.6.34-12-desktop
To sum things up, I'm giving up VMware and are going for VirtualBox.
[ more stuff deleted] I know the discussion was about vmware-server. I just wanted to make sure you realized that since version 3.0 Vmware Player allows you to create a virtual machine, not just play one. I am using vmware player 3.1 on opensuse 11.3 with no problems. It is not provided in rpm format, only .bin format. I simply ran sh Mware-Player-3.1.1-282343.x86_64.bundle as root and it installed with no problems. Then created the Windows 7 virtual machine I need for one application at work. Not saying that VirtualBox isn't a good solution, but VMWare-Player seems to work fien on 11.3 Mike -- Michael A. Coan Woodlawn Foundation 524 North Avenue, Suite 203 New Rochelle, NY 10801-3410 Tel: 914-632-3778 Fax: 914-632-5502 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Den 26-08-2010 22:55, mikecoan skrev:
On 08/26/2010 03:23 AM, Verner Kjærsgaard wrote:
[stuff deleted]
Thank you to all in this discussion! My kernel is: 2.6.34-12-desktop
To sum things up, I'm giving up VMware and are going for VirtualBox.
[ more stuff deleted]
I know the discussion was about vmware-server. I just wanted to make sure you realized that since version 3.0 Vmware Player allows you to create a virtual machine, not just play one.
I am using vmware player 3.1 on opensuse 11.3 with no problems. It is not provided in rpm format, only .bin format. I simply ran
sh Mware-Player-3.1.1-282343.x86_64.bundle
as root and it installed with no problems. Then created the Windows 7 virtual machine I need for one application at work.
Not saying that VirtualBox isn't a good solution, but VMWare-Player seems to work fien on 11.3
Mike
Hi and thank you for your input! - eh....vmplayer is rather expensive, is it not? -- ------------------------------------ Med venlig hilsen Verner Kjærsgaard Novell Certified Linux Professional, -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 8/27/2010 11:44 AM, � wrote:
Hi and thank you for your input!
- eh....vmplayer is rather expensive, is it not?
Yeah, free breaks the bank every time. -- _____________________________________ At one time I had a Real Sig. Its been downsized. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Hi I've written a small HowTo and added some scripts and the patches to a rpm. Works for Workstation and Server; <http://forums.opensuse.org/english/information-new-users/unreviewed-how-faq/447095-installing-vmware-server-workstation-sle11-sp1-opensuse-11-3-a.html> -- Cheers Malcolm °¿° (Linux Counter #276890) openSUSE 11.3 (x86_64) Kernel 2.6.34.7-0.3-default up 13:02, 3 users, load average: 0.00, 0.02, 0.00 GPU GeForce 8600 GTS Silent - Driver Version: 256.53 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Op 26-09-10 20:29, Malcolm schreef:
Hi I've written a small HowTo and added some scripts and the patches to a rpm. Works for Workstation and Server; <http://forums.opensuse.org/english/information-new-users/unreviewed-how-faq/447095-installing-vmware-server-workstation-sle11-sp1-opensuse-11-3-a.html>
Thanks a bunch Malcolm. -- Jos van Kan registered Linux user #152704 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
* Malcolm (malcolm_lewis@bellsouth.net) [20100926 20:24]:
rpm. Works for Workstation and Server; <http://forums.opensuse.org/english/information-new-users/unreviewed-how-faq/447095-installing-vmware-server-workstation-sle11-sp1-opensuse-11-3-a.html>
Thanks a lot for your work! Making that into an SDB article for the opensuse wiki would earn you lots of extra points :) Philipp -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tue, 19 Oct 2010 16:14:51 +0200 Philipp Thomas <pth@suse.de> wrote:
* Malcolm (malcolm_lewis@bellsouth.net) [20100926 20:24]:
rpm. Works for Workstation and Server; <http://forums.opensuse.org/english/information-new-users/unreviewed-how-faq/447095-installing-vmware-server-workstation-sle11-sp1-opensuse-11-3-a.html>
Thanks a lot for your work! Making that into an SDB article for the opensuse wiki would earn you lots of extra points :)
Philipp Hi Philipp Your welcome :) Any thoughts under which SDB category it should go?
-- Cheers Malcolm °¿° (Linux Counter #276890) SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop 11 (x86_64) Kernel 2.6.32.23-0.3-default up 1 day 17:05, 3 users, load average: 0.31, 0.17, 0.05 GPU GeForce 8600 GTS Silent - Driver Version: 260.19.06 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tue, 19 Oct 2010 13:54:14 -0500 Malcolm <malcolm_lewis@bellsouth.net> wrote:
On Tue, 19 Oct 2010 16:14:51 +0200 Philipp Thomas <pth@suse.de> wrote:
* Malcolm (malcolm_lewis@bellsouth.net) [20100926 20:24]:
rpm. Works for Workstation and Server; <http://forums.opensuse.org/english/information-new-users/unreviewed-how-faq/447095-installing-vmware-server-workstation-sle11-sp1-opensuse-11-3-a.html>
Thanks a lot for your work! Making that into an SDB article for the opensuse wiki would earn you lots of extra points :)
Philipp Hi Philipp Here is the SDB article; http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Installing_VMware_server_or_workstation_on_openSU...
-- Cheers Malcolm °¿° (Linux Counter #276890) SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop 11 (x86_64) Kernel 2.6.32.23-0.3-default up 7:23, 2 users, load average: 0.06, 0.10, 0.04 GPU GeForce 8600 GTS Silent - Driver Version: 260.19.12 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thu, 21 Oct 2010 15:55:11 -0500, Malcolm <malcolm_lewis@bellsouth.net> wrote:
http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Installing_VMware_server_or_workstation_on_openSU...
I've just checked that page and it's perfect! Thanks a bunch for doing so! Philipp -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 21 October 2010 15:55:11 Malcolm wrote: ...
Here is the SDB article; http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Installing_VMware_server_or_workstation_on_openS USE_11.3_or_SLED_11_SP1
What do you think to rename article to something a bit shorter and more universal. Now it is a "openSUSE 11.3 or SLED 11 SP1" in a few months it will be "openSUSE 11.4 or SLED 11 SP2" and so on. If you use "Installing VMware server or workstation" then you achieved a lot. 1) No obvious (redundant) openSUSE in a title - it is openSUSE wiki. 2) No version specific encoding in a title gives title and URL longevity. In a wiki, and similar in the forums, title is part of the URL. URL that doesn't change is important on the web, specially if article is kept up to date with links to older versions. That was one of our mistakes in old wiki. Encoding version/year/other information in a title, making it transient from day one, was one of mistakes we did in the old wiki. Versions are in a template Knowledge anyway. Once newer version is available this one can be copied to: Archive:SDB:Installing VMware server or workstation on openSUSE 11.3 or SLED 11 SP1 This time encoding relevant information in title is necessary, so that we can have multiple versions stored in archive. Although even there shorter title is better, for instance: Archive:SDB:Installing VMware server or workstation on 11.3 -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thu, 21 Oct 2010 22:07:38 -0500 "Rajko M." <rmatov101@charter.net> wrote:
On Thursday 21 October 2010 15:55:11 Malcolm wrote: ...
Here is the SDB article; http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Installing_VMware_server_or_workstation_on_openS USE_11.3_or_SLED_11_SP1
What do you think to rename article to something a bit shorter and more universal. Now it is a "openSUSE 11.3 or SLED 11 SP1" in a few months it will be "openSUSE 11.4 or SLED 11 SP2" and so on.
If you use "Installing VMware server or workstation" then you achieved a lot.
1) No obvious (redundant) openSUSE in a title - it is openSUSE wiki.
2) No version specific encoding in a title gives title and URL longevity.
In a wiki, and similar in the forums, title is part of the URL. URL that doesn't change is important on the web, specially if article is kept up to date with links to older versions. That was one of our mistakes in old wiki. Encoding version/year/other information in a title, making it transient from day one, was one of mistakes we did in the old wiki.
Versions are in a template Knowledge anyway.
Once newer version is available this one can be copied to: Archive:SDB:Installing VMware server or workstation on openSUSE 11.3 or SLED 11 SP1
This time encoding relevant information in title is necessary, so that we can have multiple versions stored in archive. Although even there shorter title is better, for instance: Archive:SDB:Installing VMware server or workstation on 11.3
Hi Is it possible to rename, or would I need to create a new article? -- Cheers Malcolm °¿° (Linux Counter #276890) SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop 11 (x86_64) Kernel 2.6.32.23-0.3-default up 14:32, 4 users, load average: 0.31, 0.34, 0.16 GPU GeForce 8600 GTS Silent - Driver Version: 260.19.12 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 21 October 2010 23:04:19 Malcolm wrote: ...
Hi Is it possible to rename, or would I need to create a new article?
I just did it :) Rename and move of some article are terms used as synonyms in MediaWiki. You can see just above article title line with: SDB Discussion Edit History Delete Move << this is used to move article to new page with new title Protect Watch Refresh Move will automatically create redirect, so that old link is still valid. This is useful for article that are present for a long time and have a lot of links to them. It solves both, internal wiki links and external links from Internet. Here is report that one can see after successful move: Move succeeded ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "SDB:Installing VMware server or workstation on openSUSE 11.3 or SLED 11 SP1" has been moved to "SDB:Installing VMware server or workstation" A redirect has been created. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Any wiki has a lot of redirects as they are used as above, but also to help users to find articles that can be named in different ways, but talk about the same topic. Typical examples can be: * synonyms like Audio and Sound, WiFi and Wireless, or * capitalization, WiFi and wifi, YaST and yast. This days this is usually solved with search engines that ignore capitalization. * YOU and "YaST Online Update". User can search for "you" or "YOU" and get a lot of hits, but nothing about online update. One redirect "you" -> "YaST Online Update" and search will find it and present user with: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (Redirected from You) YaST Online Update ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Sorry for verbosity, but this mail can be used by other looking how to write articles in the wiki. -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Fri, 22 Oct 2010 18:34:39 -0500 "Rajko M." <rmatov101@charter.net> wrote:
On Thursday 21 October 2010 23:04:19 Malcolm wrote: ...
Hi Is it possible to rename, or would I need to create a new article?
I just did it :) Hi Thanks for that and the info :)
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Hello listmembers,
Recently I installed KDE4.5 onto my 11.2, by following opensSUSE guidance and I've been very well impressed of this new DE release.
Now if I try a zypper ref; zypper up, then I notice several KDE packages available but since they come from different vendor (OBS instead of openSUSE) they went no installed.
In these cases I know, I should limit the repos to "dup" with --repo, or --from switch, but wonder if doing so then I risk to broke something.
TKS, I can only guess that some of your KDE packages did not get upgraded to 4.5. Did you run "zypper dup --from KDE_Distro_Factory" to upgrade in
On 24/08/10 16:45, Marco Calistri wrote: the first place? It shoudn't break anything if you do it now, but read the package list before confirming to be sure. Regards, Tejas -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thu 26 Aug 2010 at 6:15:03 (-0300 UTC) Tejas Guruswamy wrote:
Hello listmembers,
Recently I installed KDE4.5 onto my 11.2, by following opensSUSE guidance and I've been very well impressed of this new DE release.
Now if I try a zypper ref; zypper up, then I notice several KDE packages available but since they come from different vendor (OBS instead of openSUSE) they went no installed.
In these cases I know, I should limit the repos to "dup" with --repo, or --from switch, but wonder if doing so then I risk to broke something.
TKS, I can only guess that some of your KDE packages did not get upgraded to 4.5. Did you run "zypper dup --from KDE_Distro_Factory" to upgrade in
On 24/08/10 16:45, Marco Calistri wrote: the first place? It shoudn't break anything if you do it now, but read the package list before confirming to be sure.
Regards, Tejas
Hi Tejas, I did not proceeded any further since, beside upgrading KDE, zypper attempted to upgrade a lot of GNOME stuff (proposing to change arch. from x86_64 to i586). Dunno why this behaviour, when KDE is not sharing/depending upon GNOME, or at least is as I though. Cheers, -- Marco Calistri <amdturion> If I had a formula for bypassing trouble, I would not pass it around. Trouble creates a capacity to handle it. I don't say embrace trouble; that's as bad as treating it as an enemy. But I do say meet it as a friend, for you'll see a lot of it and you had better be on speaking terms with it. -- Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 24 August 2010 17:45:27 Marco Calistri wrote:
Recently I installed KDE4.5 onto my 11.2, by following opensSUSE guidance and I've been very well impressed of this new DE release.
Now if I try a zypper ref; zypper up, then I notice several KDE packages available but since they come from different vendor (OBS instead of openSUSE) they went no installed.
In these cases I know, I should limit the repos to "dup" with --repo, or --from switch, but wonder if doing so then I risk to broke something.
The conservative answer: You always risk breaking something by using OBS repos, especially when the repo in question contains 'Factory' in its title - that means it's a building site for the next openSUSE release. The optimistic answer: The KDE:Distro:Factory packages are pretty well tested and most people seem to experience a net decrease in bugs vs KDE 4.4.4 from openSUSE 11.3. And if you already partly installed 4.5 then you will not make things worse by allowing the vendor changes on update. The compromise: We are preparing a KDE:SC:45 repo which has infrequently updated 'good' packages without the sharp edges that may be in KDE:Distro:45. It will be announced here when ready. Will -- Will Stephenson, KDE Developer, openSUSE Boosters Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - Nürnberg - AG Nürnberg - HRB 16746 - GF: Markus Rex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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