[opensuse] Suggestion for a counter to MSFT.
To ALL in the Linux community: How come ALL the commercial companies in the Linux community do not get together and buy out or at least buy a controlling interest in MSFT? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Hi, Actually, This is a great suggestion, but it's not easy to achieve because we r talking about a giant company like MSFT. Such a company cannot offer its stocks to be bought such that it's controlled by another company, the controlling is for the owners of MSFT. Another thing, MSFT products are very successful, which makes owners don't think of selling any stocks of the company. Regards,... TheOldWiseKing John Boyle wrote:
To ALL in the Linux community: How come ALL the commercial companies in the Linux community do not get together and buy out or at least buy a controlling interest in MSFT? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 21 November 2006 08:21, TheOldWiseKing wrote:
Hi,
Such a company cannot offer its stocks to be bought such that it's controlled by another company, the controlling is for the owners of MSFT.
The last time I checked, Microsoft itself, and Gates and Ballmer added together with the rest of the Board own less than 15% of the stock. http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ks?s=MSFT Most is held by Institutions (large commercial investors and government agencies who need to park money somewhere till its needed). The chances of this plan succeeding are diddly squat! -- _____________________________________ John Andersen
On Tuesday 21 November 2006 18:03, John Boyle wrote:
To ALL in the Linux community: How come ALL the commercial companies in the Linux community do not get together and buy out or at least buy a controlling interest in MSFT?
Because their market cap is something like 280 billion US dollars? All linux companies put together, with the possible exception of IBM, couldn't come up with 140 billion dollars -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 11/21/06, Anders Johansson
On Tuesday 21 November 2006 18:03, John Boyle wrote:
To ALL in the Linux community: How come ALL the commercial companies in the Linux community do not get together and buy out or at least buy a controlling interest in MSFT?
Because their market cap is something like 280 billion US dollars?
All linux companies put together, with the possible exception of IBM, couldn't come up with 140 billion dollars
Let say you could what would you do with MSFT once you have it .... I mean it is financially successful yeah but ... I do not get this at all. In I.T. business you usually buy the smaller very competitive companies so you can continue enjoying the monopolizing market share advantage but buying your biggest real competitor is a suicide mission that may turn out to be huge success making you the 100% dictator or a flop if loose just a few important shares and they figure out what you were after and you spend all your maney in the process. my $.02 George P.S.: This is OT right?? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 21 November 2006 12:59, George Stoianov wrote: ....
P.S.: This is OT right??
Yes, George. It will be wise not to answer, but it is so tempting. -- Regards, Rajko M. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Another point I've just got from a friend, that in the USA Stock Market, It's not allowed to buy more that 10% of the stocks of a certain company. Because this may cause the buyer to bring the company down. Anyone is sure of this information? Regards,... TheOldWiseKing John Boyle wrote:
To ALL in the Linux community: How come ALL the commercial companies in the Linux community do not get together and buy out or at least buy a controlling interest in MSFT?
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On Tuesday 21 November 2006 22:53, TheOldWiseKing wrote:
Another point I've just got from a friend, that in the USA Stock Market, It's not allowed to buy more that 10% of the stocks of a certain company. Because this may cause the buyer to bring the company down.
Anyone is sure of this information?
I suggest you get a more reliable friend. -- _____________________________________ John Andersen
On Wednesday 22 November 2006 10:19, John Andersen wrote:
On Tuesday 21 November 2006 22:53, TheOldWiseKing wrote:
Another point I've just got from a friend, that in the USA Stock Market, It's not allowed to buy more that 10% of the stocks of a certain company. Because this may cause the buyer to bring the company down.
Anyone is sure of this information?
I suggest you get a more reliable friend.
There is a law which requires you to file a notice with the SEC when you buy more than 5% of a company's public stock, as part of the regulations around hostile takeovers. This limit used to be 10%, I guess that is what TOWK heard about -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wed, 22 Nov 2006, Anders Johansson wrote:
There is a law which requires you to file a notice with the SEC when you buy more than 5% of a company's public stock, as part of the regulations around hostile takeovers. This limit used to be 10%, I guess that is what TOWK heard about
Some companies have non-voting stock shares and voting shares. Only
people who on shares that are able to vote may make changes to the
company. I do not remember all the fancy words/terms.
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Boyd Gerber
Boyd, On Wednesday 22 November 2006 06:22, Boyd Lynn Gerber wrote:
On Wed, 22 Nov 2006, Anders Johansson wrote:
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Some companies have non-voting stock shares and voting shares. Only people who on shares that are able to vote may make changes to the company. I do not remember all the fancy words/terms.
A common term is "preferred" stock (vs. "common" stock). There are other arrangements w.r.t. the preferred / common distinction. E.g., I just heard a news story the other day about how one of the big newspapers has preferred stock held by the original private owners' family that has twice the voting weight per share that the common stock shares have. This prevents institutional investors from gaining operational control of the organization.
-- Boyd Gerber
Randall Schulz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wed, 2006-11-22 at 00:19 -0900, John Andersen wrote:
On Tuesday 21 November 2006 22:53, TheOldWiseKing wrote:
Another point I've just got from a friend, that in the USA Stock Market, It's not allowed to buy more that 10% of the stocks of a certain company. Because this may cause the buyer to bring the company down.
Anyone is sure of this information?
I suggest you get a more reliable friend.
There is a partial truth in the line above. One is not allowed to own more than 10% of a companies outstanding stock, unless one files papers with the SEC, regarding the buying or selling of that stock. Up to 10% is unfettered trading, over 10% is monitored trading. So either the original info was wrong, or the listener heard the correct info and took this misinformation out of it, a thing which happens all too often. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 22 November 2006 09:41, Mike McMullin wrote:
On Wed, 2006-11-22 at 00:19 -0900, John Andersen wrote:
On Tuesday 21 November 2006 22:53, TheOldWiseKing wrote:
Another point I've just got from a friend, that in the USA Stock Market, It's not allowed to buy more that 10% of the stocks of a certain company. Because this may cause the buyer to bring the company down.
Anyone is sure of this information?
I suggest you get a more reliable friend.
There is a partial truth in the line above. One is not allowed to own more than 10% of a companies outstanding stock, unless one files papers with the SEC, regarding the buying or selling of that stock. Up to 10% is unfettered trading, over 10% is monitored trading.
There is no prohibition on owning any percentage of a company. One is not disallowed from doing so. The reporting obligation (a task that any broker will take care of for you) provides for a (fairly minor) civil monetary penalty for failure to do the paperwork, not stock forfeiture. Long before that penalty would kick in, a 5% owner would usually be demanding a seat on the board. Last time I checked Bill Gates only held around 3% of Microsoft stock. -- _____________________________________ John Andersen
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