Re: [SLE] Watching DVD's in 8.0
Hi Kevin,
My favorite viewer is Xine. MPlayer is good, but I can't handle the
scornful and patronizing attitude that seems to pervade the documentation,
and it's a real bear to set up. I've got the Pioneer DVD player, a gig of
RAM, an AMD 1800+ and an nVidia GT4600 - in short, pretty state of the art.
DVDs still stuttered along. What fixed everything was turning on DMA on
the DVD player and creating a raw device for it.
Instructions on how to do both are in Xine's FAQ.
Bill Sheehan
Postmaster
617-373-7927
Kevin McLauchlan
Forrest Halford
writes: Just to start a friendly new thread, is anyone watching DVD's in Suse 8.0? How does one do it...?
Yes. I use Xine. You can download it from URL:http://xine.sourceforge.net. You might also want to use the Dvdnav plugin which is referenced from the same page.
What ELSE are you using? Same question to Ms. McKinney, with respect to vlc. I've encountered two schools of thought on this. 1) you can run just the software (like vlc or xine), and that's all you need on a decent PC with a decent video card (i.e., if your hardware is no more than a couple of years old), for smooth video and sound from a DVD. versus 2) you need a DVD decoder card to get smooth video and sound out of a DVD drive and onto your screen and speakers. I have an Athlon 1.1 with half a gig of system memory, and a 32MB ATI video card and a Pioneer DVD drive. I've also got a Hollywood-clone decoder card (well, actually it's not a clone, it's just re-branded). In 18 months, I've never watched a DVD movie. There's always something wrong. Jittery, stop-motion video, or missing/garbled sound, or the program hangs, or won't start... or... or... I've had the decoder card in, and I've had it out. I've dozens of settings/tweaks that I saw suggested on the vlc mailing list (always trying to interpret for SuSE from the contributors' RH/Mandrake/Debian/whatever suggestions), until my blood pressure got too high, and I had to quit trying for a while. Can't get no satisfaction. It's been a few months; must be time to try again. I wanna watch "Chicken Run" all the way through, dammit! :-) /kevin -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com
On Tuesday 11 June 2002 09:08, Bill Sheehan wrote:
Hi Kevin,
My favorite viewer is Xine. MPlayer is good, but I can't handle the scornful and patronizing attitude that seems to pervade the documentation, and it's a real bear to set up. I've got the Pioneer DVD player, a gig of RAM, an AMD 1800+ and an nVidia GT4600 - in short, pretty state of the art. DVDs still stuttered along. What fixed everything was turning on DMA on the DVD player and creating a raw device for it.
Instructions on how to do both are in Xine's FAQ.
Bill Sheehan [...]
A few remarks and questions: 1) Wow! That Xine FAQ at ( http://xine.sourceforge.net/xine_frame.php?page=FAQ_en ) is great. Thanks, Bill. It seems thorough, basic enough for even me, and not-too-cryptic... so, it must really piss off the people who like to see newbies and dabblers suffering... :-) The DMA issue is probably the immediate solution. I had it turned on in SuSE 7.3, but did a complete new install of 8.0, which probaly lost that setting for me.... 2) Last night, I had to do yard work before the rains came, so I didn't get to try out people's suggestions. Sorry. It's not that I'm an ingrate... just a schedule thing. Now, it's supposed to rain for the rest of the week, so I'll mess with the home PC's DVD stuff tonight. Put to use some of the fine advice I get in this list. Maybe I'll finally get to watch Chicken Run on the monitor. :-) 3) So, from what various people have suggested, I expect the display to be smooth on my system, using system resources, as long as I'm not taxing those same resources with other, unrelated activity. What about my Hollywood DVD decoder card? First, can Xine make use of it? Second, will it free up my system to do non-DVD activity without either slowing/jittering the movie display, or (conversely) having the DVD presentation suck cycles from the other application(s)? 4) Also, with the DVD decoder card again -- do I understand correctly that I should be able to play commercial DVDs from my region without getting the "Sorry, Xine doesn't play encrypted DVDs" message? I mean, does the card take care of decryption transparently, and present Xine with the unencrypted data stream that it wants? Does anybody USE a decoder card with Xine or Mplay or vlc? The posts that I've seen in this thread all imply that everybody uses software only. I've got the card, and would like to get some use out of it, unless it will be merely adding complications without adding value... any comments? Cheers, /kevin (in wet, grey, 16-degrees Celsius, Ottawa)
I've been using xine for a while on the last few SuSE releleases. Oddly enough I never had to enable dma before for dvds to play really well until 8.0. This is on a p11 866 with 256mb ram. But I had to turn on dma in 8.0 to solve jerky playback I'd never had before. Wonder why ? Mike On Tuesday 11 June 2002 13:08, Bill Sheehan wrote:
Hi Kevin,
My favorite viewer is Xine. MPlayer is good, but I can't handle the scornful and patronizing attitude that seems to pervade the documentation, and it's a real bear to set up. I've got the Pioneer DVD player, a gig of RAM, an AMD 1800+ and an nVidia GT4600 - in short, pretty state of the art. DVDs still stuttered along. What fixed everything was turning on DMA on the DVD player and creating a raw device for it.
Instructions on how to do both are in Xine's FAQ.
Bill Sheehan Postmaster 617-373-7927
Kevin McLauchlan
cc: Subject: Re: [SLE] Watching DVD's in 8.0 06/10/02 02:56 PM On Saturday 08 June 2002 04:13, Graham Murray wrote:
Forrest Halford
writes: Just to start a friendly new thread, is anyone watching DVD's in Suse 8.0? How does one do it...?
Yes. I use Xine. You can download it from URL:http://xine.sourceforge.net. You might also want to use the Dvdnav plugin which is referenced from the same page.
What ELSE are you using? Same question to Ms. McKinney, with respect to vlc.
I've encountered two schools of thought on this.
1) you can run just the software (like vlc or xine), and that's all you need on a decent PC with a decent video card (i.e., if your hardware is no more than a couple of years old), for smooth video and sound from a DVD.
versus
2) you need a DVD decoder card to get smooth video and sound out of a DVD drive and onto your screen and speakers.
I have an Athlon 1.1 with half a gig of system memory, and a 32MB ATI video card and a Pioneer DVD drive. I've also got a Hollywood-clone decoder card (well, actually it's not a clone, it's just re-branded). In 18 months, I've never watched a DVD movie. There's always something wrong. Jittery, stop-motion video, or missing/garbled sound, or the program hangs, or won't start... or... or... I've had the decoder card in, and I've had it out. I've dozens of settings/tweaks that I saw suggested on the vlc mailing list (always trying to interpret for SuSE from the contributors' RH/Mandrake/Debian/whatever suggestions), until my blood pressure got too high, and I had to quit trying for a while. Can't get no satisfaction. It's been a few months; must be time to try again.
I wanna watch "Chicken Run" all the way through, dammit! :-)
/kevin
Just how does one turn on DMA? --doug At 18:51 06/11/2002 +0000, michael norman wrote:
I've been using xine for a while on the last few SuSE releleases. Oddly enough I never had to enable dma before for dvds to play really well until 8.0. This is on a p11 866 with 256mb ram. But I had to turn on dma in 8.0 to solve jerky playback I'd never had before. Wonder why ?
Mike
On Tuesday 11 June 2002 13:08, Bill Sheehan wrote:
Hi Kevin,
My favorite viewer is Xine. MPlayer is good, but I can't handle the scornful and patronizing attitude that seems to pervade the documentation, and it's a real bear to set up. I've got the Pioneer DVD player, a gig of RAM, an AMD 1800+ and an nVidia GT4600 - in short, pretty state of the art. DVDs still stuttered along. What fixed everything was turning on DMA on the DVD player and creating a raw device for it.
Instructions on how to do both are in Xine's FAQ.
Bill Sheehan Postmaster 617-373-7927
Kevin McLauchlan
cc: Subject: Re: [SLE] Watching DVD's in 8.0 06/10/02 02:56 PM On Saturday 08 June 2002 04:13, Graham Murray wrote:
Forrest Halford
writes: Just to start a friendly new thread, is anyone watching DVD's in Suse 8.0? How does one do it...?
Yes. I use Xine. You can download it from URL:http://xine.sourceforge.net. You might also want to use the Dvdnav plugin which is referenced from the same page.
What ELSE are you using? Same question to Ms. McKinney, with respect to vlc.
I've encountered two schools of thought on this.
1) you can run just the software (like vlc or xine), and that's all you need on a decent PC with a decent video card (i.e., if your hardware is no more than a couple of years old), for smooth video and sound from a DVD.
versus
2) you need a DVD decoder card to get smooth video and sound out of a DVD drive and onto your screen and speakers.
I have an Athlon 1.1 with half a gig of system memory, and a 32MB ATI video card and a Pioneer DVD drive. I've also got a Hollywood-clone decoder card (well, actually it's not a clone, it's just re-branded). In 18 months, I've never watched a DVD movie. There's always something wrong. Jittery, stop-motion video, or missing/garbled sound, or the program hangs, or won't start... or... or... I've had the decoder card in, and I've had it out. I've dozens of settings/tweaks that I saw suggested on the vlc mailing list (always trying to interpret for SuSE from the contributors' RH/Mandrake/Debian/whatever suggestions), until my blood pressure got too high, and I had to quit trying for a while. Can't get no satisfaction. It's been a few months; must be time to try again.
I wanna watch "Chicken Run" all the way through, dammit! :-)
/kevin
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Hi Doug, Simple - I just put it in my /etc/init.d/boot.local hdparm -d1 /dev/hdd -- Bill On Tuesday 11 June 2002 10:21 pm, Doug McGarrett wrote:
Just how does one turn on DMA? --doug
At 18:51 06/11/2002 +0000, michael norman wrote:
I've been using xine for a while on the last few SuSE releleases. Oddly
enough
I never had to enable dma before for dvds to play really well until 8.0. This is on a p11 866 with 256mb ram. But I had to turn on dma in 8.0 to solve jerky playback I'd never had before. Wonder why ?
Mike
On Tuesday 11 June 2002 13:08, Bill Sheehan wrote:
Hi Kevin,
My favorite viewer is Xine. MPlayer is good, but I can't handle the scornful and patronizing attitude that seems to pervade the documentation, and it's a real bear to set up. I've got the Pioneer DVD player, a gig of RAM, an AMD 1800+ and an nVidia GT4600 - in short, pretty state of the art. DVDs still stuttered along. What fixed everything was turning on DMA on the DVD player and creating a raw device for it.
Instructions on how to do both are in Xine's FAQ.
Bill Sheehan Postmaster 617-373-7927
Kevin McLauchlan
cc: Subject: Re: [SLE] Watching DVD's in 8.0 06/10/02 02:56 PM On Saturday 08 June 2002 04:13, Graham Murray wrote:
Forrest Halford
writes: Just to start a friendly new thread, is anyone watching DVD's in Suse 8.0? How does one do it...?
Yes. I use Xine. You can download it from URL:http://xine.sourceforge.net. You might also want to use the Dvdnav plugin which is referenced from the same page.
What ELSE are you using? Same question to Ms. McKinney, with respect to vlc.
I've encountered two schools of thought on this.
1) you can run just the software (like vlc or xine), and that's all you need on a decent PC with a decent video card (i.e., if your hardware is no more than a couple of years old), for smooth video and sound from a DVD.
versus
2) you need a DVD decoder card to get smooth video and sound out of a DVD drive and onto your screen and speakers.
I have an Athlon 1.1 with half a gig of system memory, and a 32MB ATI video card and a Pioneer DVD drive. I've also got a Hollywood-clone decoder card (well, actually it's not a clone, it's just re-branded). In 18 months, I've never watched a DVD movie. There's always something wrong. Jittery, stop-motion video, or missing/garbled sound, or the program hangs, or won't start... or... or... I've had the decoder card in, and I've had it out. I've dozens of settings/tweaks that I saw suggested on the vlc mailing list (always trying to interpret for SuSE from the contributors' RH/Mandrake/Debian/whatever suggestions), until my blood pressure got too high, and I had to quit trying for a while. Can't get no satisfaction. It's been a few months; must be time to try again.
I wanna watch "Chicken Run" all the way through, dammit! :-)
/kevin
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On Wed, Jun 12, 2002 at 03:13:43PM -0400, Bill Sheehan wrote:
Hi Doug,
Simple - I just put it in my /etc/init.d/boot.local
hdparm -d1 /dev/hdd
I wanted to offer up my experience today since I just installed a DVD into my laptop. I have a Dell Inspiron 8000, 1Ghz, 256MB RAM, Nvidia Geforce2go 32MB, running SuSE 8.0. I've used Xine 0.9.7 in the past on another laptop and had good performance so my first try today was with the latest version of Xine, 0.9.10. Although I had no problems installing everything, I could not get DVDs to play correctly, getting something about an error reading the MRL. I was going to try 0.9.7 again but instead decided to give Ogle a try. I downloaded the Red Hat RPMs from the Ogle site and they installed in reasonable places without complaint. One nice thing about ogle is that it has fewer packages than Xine. Here are the packages I downloaded: libdvdcss2-1.2.1-1plf.i586.rpm libdvdread-0.9.3-ogle1.src.rpm libxml2-2.4.12-1.i386.rpm ogle-0.8.2-1.i386.rpm ogle-gui-0.8.2-1.i386.rpm I did not install the libxml2 rpm since it was already installed on my system. I fired up ogle and it was able to play one of my DVD movies although the performance was only about 19-21 frames per second, a little erratic. Then, I turned dma (the -X34 for mode2 may or may not help): hdparm -d1 -X34 /dev/hdc After DMA was on, I got the full 24 frames per second and it works great. So, for now, I can highly recommend the latest ogle. It's a little easier to set up than Xine due to fewer packages. Best Regards, Keith -- LPIC-2, MCSE, N+ Linux soldat -- 8.0 SuSE panzer division Got spam? Get spastic http://spastic.sourceforge.net
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