Re: [opensuse] wireless doesn't work in suse 11 RC1
On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 8:11 PM, Kevin Dupuy <kevin.dupuy@opensuse.org> wrote:
On Mon, 2008-06-02 at 20:03 -0700, John Andersen wrote:
On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 7:40 PM, Ken Schneider <suse-list3@bout-tyme.net> wrote:
Peter Van Lone pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 8:30 PM, Masim Vavai Sugianto <vavai@vavai.com> wrote:
I have same problem with AR-5212. Wifi driver ath5k doesn't work. You have 2 choice for this kind problem :
1. Manually install madwifi driver from tar.gz (madwifi.org), with standar ./configure, make and make install. You must have gcc, make and kernel-source for this
2. Marek Stopka has built madwifi driver for openSUSE. Please take a look here : http://www.m4r3k.org/english/opensuse-linux/madwifi-driver-for-opensuse-110/
I choose the first option and my AR-5212 worked flawlessly.
The question for me is why would open suse not have support for devices? I'm sick of hearing either "but it just works in Ubuntu" or "but it just works in Windows"!
GAH!
Peter
openSUSE adheres strictly to licensing issues where Ubunto doesn't seem to care if they get sued.
But they haven't got sued have they!!!
Isn't it more likely Ubuntu have negotiated a redistribution license or are simply using ndiswrapper with windows drivers downloaded directly from the source?
This bugaboo of law suits is a lame excuse. If the lawyers that veto all the drivers that suse leaves out or cripples spent half that amount oif time on the phone negotiating redistribution opensuse would be a complete distro out of the box/torrent.
These could be packaged separately so as safely segregate these drivers from the GPL.
SUSE used to include these drivers, specifically madwifi, so it isn't a matter of not getting sued, it's a amtter of being open source.
An even lamer excuse. There are some drivers that are never going to be free. If suse won't find a way to include them, don't be supprised when the userbase wanders off to a distro that will. -- ----------JSA--------- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Mon, 2008-06-02 at 20:24 -0700, John Andersen wrote:
On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 8:11 PM, Kevin Dupuy <kevin.dupuy@opensuse.org> wrote:
SUSE used to include these drivers, specifically madwifi, so it isn't a matter of not getting sued, it's a amtter of being open source.
An even lamer excuse.
There are some drivers that are never going to be free. If suse won't find a way to include them, don't be supprised when the userbase wanders off to a distro that will.
Hey, I agree. I thought my wireless card would be supported by open-source drivers this time around, and unless something changes in the next few weeks, I'd be wrong. I would love for openSUSE to include drivers to those who absolutely need them. -- Kevin "Yo" Dupuy Public Mail <kevin.dupuy@opensuse.org> Yo.media: 225-590-5961 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 03 June 2008 12:06:47 am Kevin Dupuy wrote:
On Mon, 2008-06-02 at 20:24 -0700, John Andersen wrote:
On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 8:11 PM, Kevin Dupuy <kevin.dupuy@opensuse.org> wrote:
SUSE used to include these drivers, specifically madwifi, so it isn't a matter of not getting sued, it's a amtter of being open source.
An even lamer excuse.
There are some drivers that are never going to be free. If suse won't find a way to include them, don't be supprised when the userbase wanders off to a distro that will.
Hey, I agree. I thought my wireless card would be supported by open-source drivers this time around, and unless something changes in the next few weeks, I'd be wrong. I would love for openSUSE to include drivers to those who absolutely need them.
At least in paid for version. That would mean that everyone has to buy his copy of openSUSE, but it would also mean that all works out of the box. P.S. While this sounds great, cost factor wouldn't be so great, and first thing that people will complain will be: "Why I have to pay for <name_it> when I don't use it?" The only solution is to complain to vendors. When they see that they are missing sales they will get enough incentive to do something about it. Specially, if kernel guys offer free assistance. -- Regards, Rajko http://en.opensuse.org/Portal needs helpful hands. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tue, 2008-06-03 at 00:26 -0500, Rajko M. wrote:
At least in paid for version. That would mean that everyone has to buy his copy of openSUSE, but it would also mean that all works out of the box.
P.S. While this sounds great, cost factor wouldn't be so great, and first thing that people will complain will be: "Why I have to pay for <name_it> when I don't use it?"
The only solution is to complain to vendors. When they see that they are missing sales they will get enough incentive to do something about it. Specially, if kernel guys offer free assistance.
That could be an option/incentive to sell boxed editions. But most of the time it isn't a cost factor, for example MadWifi. MadWifi is offered free to anyone who adds the repo, it's not matter of money for most -- Kevin "Yo" Dupuy Public Mail <kevin.dupuy@opensuse.org> Yo.media: 225-590-5961 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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