On 3/5/09, Greg Freemyer wrote:

On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 4:18 PM, Allen Zhu wrote:

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On 3/5/09, Greg Freemyer wrote:

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Very cool.

We just created a custom boot CD with some of the unique software we need.

We've talked about doing it for a couple years and never took the time to dive in and do it.

One surprise was that "strings" was not part of our first build. We went back into to studio to find it and could not find a way to search for a package by "provides strings". Easy enough to do that via yast and figure out we needed binutils, but it was the only hickup we had so I have to complain about something.

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I love this idea and just signed up for a invitation! Do you know how long I will be able to get access to it?

Took us 3 or 4 days to get access.

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Good job again!

By the way, Greg, you're Norcross' CTO; why don't you have a email account @norcrossgroup.com?

I do, but I use it for business comm, not for mailing lists etc.

ie. I don't want to loose a real e-mail in the clutter of all the mailing list email I get.

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OK, I was just asking. So I'll probably get something at the max in a week? Allen Allen Registered Linux User 484485 (http://counter.li.org/) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 4:41 PM, Allen Zhu wrote:

So I'll probably get something at the max in a week?

I signed up months ago and have heard nothing. I was able to get someone with access to build me a cd, but once it was installed and I added repos, it tried to install all kinds of stuff, and some things didn't work right. Since I don't have access to it, I can't build a better one. There are too many dependencies in openSUSE to do a really good custom install. Example: I just tried to remove avahi, and got way too many dependencies, so I gave up. Something like that shouldn't be so deep into the system. I never needed it before and don't now. I've looked into KIWI, but haven't tried it yet. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 7:48 AM, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:

I think Studio is a web wrapper around KIWI. Unless you are doing something odd, KIWI is rather straight forward. Out of the box, it comes with configurations for making DVD, VM, USB, PXE, OEM, LTSP and other images. It can be customized via a few XML files. BTW, it is easy to add repositories and packages from anywhere smart or zypper allow. I really like that I can check my scripts to make images in to my source control system, making image creation a bit more reliable and trackable.

That could be. I'll have to see if I can find some time to check KIWI out more fully this weekend. I'm just not very happy with all the dependencies. There are still way too many dependencies on a fully installed system to remove something. To remove avahi, I would have had to remove almost all of my KDE and/or gnome(which I'm not running) because one things needs this, and then something else needs that. Very frustrating..... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Fri, 06 Mar 2009 14:27:31 -0500, Larry Stotler wrote:

I'm just not very happy with all the dependencies. There are still way too many dependencies on a fully installed system to remove something.

I've found that even using the 11.1 JeOS setup in Studio, the smallest you can get things is just under 100 MB. Compared to some of the smaller distros out there, this is quite huge. On the flip side, though, I've found Studio to be really useful for building images to troubleshoot issues with a web site I'm setting up through a donation from a local ISP. I do wish they'd left the 11.0 setups in there, though - it's all 11.1, and I wanted to build a custom 11.0 setup to run the upgrade to 11.1 through once before starting on my real systems. Jim -- Jim Henderson Please keep on-topic replies on the list so everyone benefits -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On 3/6/09, Larry Stotler wrote:

On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 4:41 PM, Allen Zhu wrote:

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So I'll probably get something at the max in a week?

I signed up months ago and have heard nothing.  I was able to get someone with access to build me a cd, but once it was installed and I added repos, it tried to install all kinds of stuff, and some things didn't work right.  Since I don't have access to it, I can't build a better one.  There are too many dependencies in openSUSE to do a really good custom install.  Example:  I just tried to remove avahi, and got way too many dependencies, so I gave up.  Something like that shouldn't be so deep into the system.  I never needed it before and don't now.

I've looked into KIWI, but haven't tried it yet. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

I just got mines today. Really? Try signing up again. I tried doing that and a box in the upper right corner said that: Notice: you already have signed up on (SIGNUP DATE) Or something like that. On the other hand, I only test drived it and it runs fine, but I haven't tried installing it virtually yet on my computer... Allen Registered Linux User 484485 (http://counter.li.org/) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 1:54 AM, Marcus Meissner wrote:

On Fri, Mar 06, 2009 at 02:47:30PM -0800, Allen Zhu wrote:

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On 3/6/09, Larry Stotler wrote:

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On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 4:41 PM, Allen Zhu wrote:

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So I'll probably get something at the max in a week?

I signed up months ago and have heard nothing.  I was able to get someone with access to build me a cd, but once it was installed and I added repos, it tried to install all kinds of stuff, and some things didn't work right.  Since I don't have access to it, I can't build a better one.  There are too many dependencies in openSUSE to do a really good custom install.  Example:  I just tried to remove avahi, and got way too many dependencies, so I gave up.  Something like that shouldn't be so deep into the system.  I never needed it before and don't now.

I've looked into KIWI, but haven't tried it yet. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

I just got mines today.

Really? Try signing up again. I tried doing that and a box in the upper right corner said that:

Notice: you already have signed up on (SIGNUP DATE)

Or something like that.

On the other hand, I only test drived it and it runs fine, but I haven't tried installing it virtually yet on my computer...

Since the service cannot take everyone who wants to test it right now, only a increasing number of supplicants is taken per week.

I have heard this number is getting larger every week and there might even be a complete public phase at one point in time.

Ciao, Marcus

Really, Marcus? Then shouldn't the system go send out invites starting with the people who requested a invite the earliest to be fair? I mean, I like the system and really want to keep using it, but to be fair, isn't it supposed to be like that? Allen Registered Linux User 484485 (http://counter.li.org/) Sent from: San Francisco California United States. Ani DiFranco - "Art may imitate life, but life imitates TV." -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 8:29 AM, Larry Stotler wrote:

Also, please remember to trim your quotes.  We do still have dialup guys.....  Thanx

Do you mean like this? Allen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On 3/5/09, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:

On Thu, 2009-03-05 at 13:18 -0800, Allen Zhu wrote:

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I love this idea and just signed up for a invitation! Do you know how long I will be able to get access to it?

Or, you can install KIWI and build these locally. I have been making diskless PXE boot images of openSUSE this way for a while. KIWI is a command line app. But it is not at all difficult to get it working.

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I just tried to build something online at SUSE Studio and it's way simpler than KIWI. Plus, you can test-drive your app in a Java Virtual enviornment online for max 30 minutes per session, unlimited number of sessions. I think again that this is a great idea and everyone should use it... Allen Registered Linux User 484485 (http://counter.li.org/) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org