[opensuse] Claws Mail Menu Bar Missing

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Richmond

26 May 2018 26 May '18

10:47

I have no menu bar with claws mail. I can get options up by pressing alt-f and then using left and right arrow keys. It says the menu bar is enabled. I have tried with Mate, Xfce, and Icewm, but all the same. How do I get a menu bar? In .claws-mail directory: cat clawsrc|grep -i menu mainwin_menubar=1 (openSUSE Leap 42.3) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

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Dave Howorth

26 May 26 May

14:33

On Sat, 26 May 2018 11:47:12 +0100 Richmond wrote:

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I have no menu bar with claws mail. I can get options up by pressing alt-f and then using left and right arrow keys. It says the menu bar is enabled. I have tried with Mate, Xfce, and Icewm, but all the same. How do I get a menu bar?

In .claws-mail directory:

cat clawsrc|grep -i menu mainwin_menubar=1

(openSUSE Leap 42.3)

I have claws on leap 42.3 and I do have a menu bar. As far as I know I haven't done anything special. FWIW I use LXDE but I doubt that's relevant. Apparently F12 toggles menu bar visibility, so you could try that. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Richmond

16:27

Dave Howorth wrote:

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On Sat, 26 May 2018 11:47:12 +0100 Richmond wrote:

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I have no menu bar with claws mail. I can get options up by pressing alt-f and then using left and right arrow keys. It says the menu bar is enabled. I have tried with Mate, Xfce, and Icewm, but all the same. How do I get a menu bar?

In .claws-mail directory:

cat clawsrc|grep -i menu mainwin_menubar=1

(openSUSE Leap 42.3) I have claws on leap 42.3 and I do have a menu bar. As far as I know I haven't done anything special. FWIW I use LXDE but I doubt that's relevant.

Apparently F12 toggles menu bar visibility, so you could try that.

That makes it worse because the menu bar doesn't appear, but the alt-f work around stops working, so all I can do then is exit, and edit the clawsrc. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Dave Howorth

19:16

On Sat, 26 May 2018 17:27:58 +0100 Richmond wrote:

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Dave Howorth wrote:

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On Sat, 26 May 2018 11:47:12 +0100 Richmond wrote:

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I have no menu bar with claws mail. I can get options up by pressing alt-f and then using left and right arrow keys. It says the menu bar is enabled. I have tried with Mate, Xfce, and Icewm, but all the same. How do I get a menu bar?

In .claws-mail directory:

cat clawsrc|grep -i menu mainwin_menubar=1

(openSUSE Leap 42.3) I have claws on leap 42.3 and I do have a menu bar. As far as I know I haven't done anything special. FWIW I use LXDE but I doubt that's relevant.

Apparently F12 toggles menu bar visibility, so you could try that.

That makes it worse because the menu bar doesn't appear, but the alt-f work around stops working, so all I can do then is exit, and edit the clawsrc.

You said you didn't have a menu bar, so I fail to understand how the menu bar can subsequently not appear. Please be clear about exactly what you have on your system, exactly what you have done and exactly what you see. Then people may be able to help. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Richmond

19:50

Dave Howorth wrote:

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On Sat, 26 May 2018 17:27:58 +0100 Richmond wrote:

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Dave Howorth wrote:

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On Sat, 26 May 2018 11:47:12 +0100 Richmond wrote:

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I have no menu bar with claws mail. I can get options up by pressing alt-f and then using left and right arrow keys. It says the menu bar is enabled. I have tried with Mate, Xfce, and Icewm, but all the same. How do I get a menu bar?

In .claws-mail directory:

cat clawsrc|grep -i menu mainwin_menubar=1

(openSUSE Leap 42.3) I have claws on leap 42.3 and I do have a menu bar. As far as I know I haven't done anything special. FWIW I use LXDE but I doubt that's relevant.

Apparently F12 toggles menu bar visibility, so you could try that.

That makes it worse because the menu bar doesn't appear, but the alt-f work around stops working, so all I can do then is exit, and edit the clawsrc. You said you didn't have a menu bar, so I fail to understand how the menu bar can subsequently not appear. I don't know how you managed to get that paragraph from what I said. And I don't understand why you think that something which is not there, cannot fail to appear. I did not, do not, never have had, and probably never will have a menu bar. I expect you suggested pressing F12 in the hope that it would appear (actually I think it is shift-f12 but I tried both) but pressing F12 did NOT make the already missing menu bar appear.

My work around for having no menu bar, as I said in my first post, is to press alt-f, this gives me the file menu, and then I can use left and right arrow to get to other menus. However, the F12 or shift-F12, broke this mechanism too, leaving me with nothing but to exit claws mail.

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Please be clear about exactly what you have on your system, exactly what you have done and exactly what you see. Then people may be able to help.

I have claws mail with no menu bar. The menu bar is the one which should be at the top with "File" etc. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Dave Howorth

20:12

On Sat, 26 May 2018 20:50:01 +0100 Richmond wrote:

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On Sat, 26 May 2018 17:27:58 +0100 Richmond wrote:

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Dave Howorth wrote:

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On Sat, 26 May 2018 11:47:12 +0100 Richmond wrote:

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I have no menu bar with claws mail. I can get options up by pressing alt-f and then using left and right arrow keys. It says the menu bar is enabled. I have tried with Mate, Xfce, and Icewm, but all the same. How do I get a menu bar?

In .claws-mail directory:

cat clawsrc|grep -i menu mainwin_menubar=1

(openSUSE Leap 42.3) I have claws on leap 42.3 and I do have a menu bar. As far as I know I haven't done anything special. FWIW I use LXDE but I doubt that's relevant.

Apparently F12 toggles menu bar visibility, so you could try that.

That makes it worse because the menu bar doesn't appear, but the alt-f work around stops working, so all I can do then is exit, and edit the clawsrc. You said you didn't have a menu bar, so I fail to understand how the menu bar can subsequently not appear. I don't know how you managed to get that paragraph from what I said. And I don't understand why you think that something which is not

Dave Howorth wrote: there, cannot fail to appear. I did not, do not, never have had, and probably never will have a menu bar.

I am a native English speaker, possibly you are not, but I don't understand the confusion here, nor your apparent attitude.

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I expect you suggested pressing F12 in the hope that it would appear (actually I think it is shift-f12 but I tried both) but pressing F12 did NOT make the already missing menu bar appear.

I didn't suggest pressing anything, I simply quoted a line from the claws manual that appears when I select the Help/Manual entry from the menu bar. FWIW I reproduce the line below and I have tested that pressing F12 does indeed hide or reveal the menu bar. Shift-F12 apparently does nothing. F12 Toggles menu bar visibility

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My work around for having no menu bar, as I said in my first post, is to press alt-f, this gives me the file menu, and then I can use left and right arrow to get to other menus. However, the F12 or shift-F12, broke this mechanism too, leaving me with nothing but to exit claws mail.

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Please be clear about exactly what you have on your system, exactly what you have done and exactly what you see. Then people may be able to help.

I have claws mail with no menu bar. The menu bar is the one which should be at the top with "File" etc.

You have a broken system. I do not. Mine works. If you actually provided some details, we might be able to work out why your system is broken. Just repeating information and haranguing me gets you nowhere. What versions of everything that you have mentioned do you you have, for example, from what repositories? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Richmond

20:36

Dave Howorth wrote:

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Apparently F12 toggles menu bar visibility, so you could try that.

I didn't suggest pressing anything, I simply quoted a line from the claws manual

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You said you didn't have a menu bar, so I fail to understand how the

Then: menu bar can subsequently not appear. Why? Why cannot something which is not there, fail to appear? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Ianseeks

27 May 27 May

08:48

On Saturday, 26 May 2018 21:36:31 BST Richmond wrote:

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Dave Howorth wrote:

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Apparently F12 toggles menu bar visibility, so you could try that.

I didn't suggest pressing anything, I simply quoted a line from the claws manual

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You said you didn't have a menu bar, so I fail to understand how the menu bar can subsequently not appear.

Why? Why cannot something which is not there, fail to appear?

Something is getting lost in translation in this thread. If something that should be displayed i.e. a menu, but is not displayed then it "fails to appear". So if F12 is pressed and no menu is displayed then it looks like your claws installation is in a problem state because the F12 show/hide menu is not working. Try removing claws and reinstalling.

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-- opensuse:tumbleweed:20180524 Qt: 5.10.0 KDE Frameworks: 5.46.0 - KDE Plasma: 5.12.5 - kwin 5.12.5 kmail2 5.8.1 - akonadiserver 5.8.1 - Kernel: 4.16.11-1-default - xf86-video-nouveau: 1.0.15 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Carlos E. R.

08:53

On 2018-05-27 10:48, Ianseeks wrote:

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On Saturday, 26 May 2018 21:36:31 BST Richmond wrote:

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Dave Howorth wrote:

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> > Apparently F12 toggles menu bar visibility, so you could try that. >

I didn't suggest pressing anything, I simply quoted a line from the claws manual

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You said you didn't have a menu bar, so I fail to understand how the menu bar can subsequently not appear.

Why? Why cannot something which is not there, fail to appear?

Something is getting lost in translation in this thread.

If something that should be displayed i.e. a menu, but is not displayed then it "fails to appear". So if F12 is pressed and no menu is displayed then it looks like your claws installation is in a problem state because the F12 show/hide menu is not working. Try removing claws and reinstalling.

May better try create a new user first, and try claws under that user. If it works, then it is a configuration issue under the first user. If it doesn't, it is a system or installation problem. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.3 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)

Richmond

28 May 28 May

09:29

Carlos E. R. wrote:

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On 2018-05-27 10:48, Ianseeks wrote:

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On Saturday, 26 May 2018 21:36:31 BST Richmond wrote:

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Dave Howorth wrote:

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>> Apparently F12 toggles menu bar visibility, so you could try that. >> I didn't suggest pressing anything, I simply quoted a line from the claws manual Then:

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You said you didn't have a menu bar, so I fail to understand how the menu bar can subsequently not appear.

Why? Why cannot something which is not there, fail to appear? Something is getting lost in translation in this thread.

If something that should be displayed i.e. a menu, but is not displayed then it "fails to appear". So if F12 is pressed and no menu is displayed then it looks like your claws installation is in a problem state because the F12 show/hide menu is not working. Try removing claws and reinstalling. May better try create a new user first, and try claws under that user. If it works, then it is a configuration issue under the first user. If it doesn't, it is a system or installation problem.

I tried that, it didn't work for the new user. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Richmond

09:28

Ianseeks wrote:

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Something is getting lost in translation in this thread.

If something that should be displayed i.e. a menu, but is not displayed then it "fails to appear". So if F12 is pressed and no menu is displayed then it looks like your claws installation is in a problem state because the F12 show/hide menu is not working. Try removing claws and reinstalling.

The day before yesterday (I think) I removed claws-mail which came from the repo: Repository : openSUSE-Leap-42.3-0 Name : claws-mail Version : 3.13.2-3.4 Arch : x86_64 and obtained the source for claws-mail source and compiled it: claws-mail -V Claws Mail version 3.16.0 runtime GTK+ 2.24.31 / GLib 2.48.2 buildtime GTK+ 2.24.31 / GLib 2.48.2 Compiled-in features: GnuTLS IPv6 iconv libetpan 1.6 libSM None of this made any difference, except that the shortcut changed from F12 to ctrl-F12, but it still didn't work, and the menu is enabled by default anyway, it just doesn't work. I am beginning to suspect that some development gtk libraries may be at fault, as I have compiled Seamonkey on this system. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Liam Proven

09:14

On 26/05/18 12:47, Richmond wrote:

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I have no menu bar with claws mail. I can get options up by pressing alt-f and then using left and right arrow keys. It says the menu bar is enabled. I have tried with Mate, Xfce, and Icewm, but all the same. How do I get a menu bar?

I had this problem on Tumbleweed with Xfce. It also affected Pidgin, Thunar and some other apps. I found it was due to some libraries intended for Ubuntu Unity notifications. Once I removed this, my menu bars came back. I *think* it was ``libappindicator'' but it was some 6mth ago now and I do not remember exactly, I'm afraid. -- Liam Proven - Technical Writer, SUSE Linux s.r.o. Corso II, Křižíkova 148/34, 186-00 Praha 8 - Karlín, Czechia Email: lproven@suse.com - Office telephone: +420 284 241 084 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Richmond

09:34

Liam Proven wrote:

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On 26/05/18 12:47, Richmond wrote:

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I have no menu bar with claws mail. I can get options up by pressing alt-f and then using left and right arrow keys. It says the menu bar is enabled. I have tried with Mate, Xfce, and Icewm, but all the same. How do I get a menu bar? I had this problem on Tumbleweed with Xfce. It also affected Pidgin, Thunar and some other apps.

I found it was due to some libraries intended for Ubuntu Unity notifications. Once I removed this, my menu bars came back.

I *think* it was ``libappindicator'' but it was some 6mth ago now and I do not remember exactly, I'm afraid.

I removed libappindicator3-1, and libindicator3-7, but it didn't fix the problem. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Liam Proven

12:51

On 28/05/18 11:34, Richmond wrote:

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I removed libappindicator3-1, and libindicator3-7, but it didn't fix the problem.

I'm really sorry -- I wish I had kept notes now. :-( Searching for "applet indicator", SUSE seems to contain quite a few other libraries related to this. The Unity desktop suppressed applications' menu bars, putting them in the global menu bar at the top. Some of the libraries have sneaked into openSUSE and have the same result on certain apps. For me it affected Claws, Pidgin, the XFCE terminal and some other programs. I kept removing libraries to do with indicators, applets and so on and eventually it worked and all the apps started showing their menu bars again. I could not find anything very relevant online but this is I suspect connected: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1745797 -- Liam Proven - Technical Writer, SUSE Linux s.r.o. Corso II, Křižíkova 148/34, 186-00 Praha 8 - Karlín, Czechia Email: lproven@suse.com - Office telephone: +420 284 241 084 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Richmond

17:49

Liam Proven wrote:

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On 28/05/18 11:34, Richmond wrote:

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I removed libappindicator3-1, and libindicator3-7, but it didn't fix the problem. I'm really sorry -- I wish I had kept notes now. :-(

Searching for "applet indicator", SUSE seems to contain quite a few other libraries related to this.

The Unity desktop suppressed applications' menu bars, putting them in the global menu bar at the top. Some of the libraries have sneaked into openSUSE and have the same result on certain apps. For me it affected Claws, Pidgin, the XFCE terminal and some other programs. I kept removing libraries to do with indicators, applets and so on and eventually it worked and all the apps started showing their menu bars again.

I could not find anything very relevant online but this is I suspect connected:

https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1745797

Yes! I got it working! I removed this package: unity-gtk-module-common And the system removed these: mate-applet-appmenu unity-gtk2-module unity-gtk3-module unity-gtk-module-common xfce4-panel-plugin-appmenu And now the menu is back. I have probably broken something but I'll no doubt find out what in due course. Thanks to everyone who replied. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

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