[opensuse] How to get Nvidia Geforce GTX 960 M working?
Hi again :-) I am installing leap on my new Asus GL552VW-CN113T that has an intel graphics chip and a Nvidia Geforce GTX 960 M. So I added the nvidia repository, gave it "98" and run a zypper dup on my fresh and fully updated install. When I clicked on the Nvidia-Settings it said I must run nvidia-xconfig as root, what I did. I got some error messages about missing things (sorry, don't remember exactly what it was) and then - after logging out/in - there was no KDE anymore, only a text-login. No way to get the graphical environment back, removing all proprietary nvidia things with yast did not help. Ok, no problem, this is a virgin computer and I simply reinstalled the whole system. Now I have it all updated again (right now without the nvidia-repo...) and would love to make use of this graphic card... How do I proceed? Googling tells me a lot about optimus and bumblebee, but I cannot find out if I have an optimus thing (the asus site does not mention this word, and the nvidia page about the card neither). Google also told me to disable intel graphics in the bios, but there is no such possibility (can only allocate more or less memory). Thanks for your help! Daniel -- Daniel Bauer photographer Basel Barcelona http://www.daniel-bauer.com room in Barcelona: https://www.airbnb.es/rooms/2416137 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Hi Daniel, We're addressing the exact same situation on very similar hardware. You may have seen my original post on Feb. 14 with the subject "openSUSE on ASUS ZenBook Pro?": https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2016-02/msg00705.html I now have Leap 42.1 and Mint 17.3 installed and fully updated. These systems are installed in parallel with the original Windows 10 OS. The instructions I've been contemplating following are here: https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:NVIDIA_Bumblebee Before proceeding in that direction, however, since I chose ext4 over btrfs, I am now working on a reliable and reproducable imaging / partition level backup/restore strategy. I also found these threads interesting: http://stackmobile.com/unix/questions/255891 refers to https://github.com/Bumblebee-Project/Bumblebee/issues/699 Let's stay in touch :-) regards, Carl -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Am 02.03.2016 um 05:10 schrieb Carl Hartung:
Hi Daniel,
We're addressing the exact same situation on very similar hardware. You may have seen my original post on Feb. 14 with the subject "openSUSE on ASUS ZenBook Pro?":
Followed most of that thread, but then it dealt a lot about win (which I have completely eliminated, already the barefacedly private question at the first boot made me pressing the power-off-button even before completing that boot...) and then about non-removable batteries (this laptop has an easy removable one). However I followed the advice to try a dvd first (no booting problems, holding down esc-key while power-on gave the choice for boot-device), but I did not get aware of the graphics card problem, and not of the touchpad, which will be m next problem to solve...
I now have Leap 42.1 and Mint 17.3 installed and fully updated. These systems are installed in parallel with the original Windows 10 OS. The instructions I've been contemplating following are here:
I've been reading this forth and back... hooo... - did you install with success? - do I have to begin with the very beginning (Bumblebee with open source graphics drivers) or begin later (OPTIONAL: Install NVIDIA driver)? I also read https://forums.opensuse.org/showthread.php/505270-ultimate-tutorial-installi... what makes me afraid is the following: "caution: It is highly recommened that update your system only once. If the OS is updated frequently especially updating the keneral, it will destroy dkms and bumblebee. In this case, one have to reinstall nvidia optimus driver again." Does this mean, that after each kernel update (something happening quite often) I have to go through the whole procedure again? What happens after a kernel update? Will the GUI (KDE) still be reachable? also: "If you are using Virtualbox and other tools need to recompile Linux kernel, it is better to install them before the following steps." What after a kernel update? No virtual-box or no nvidia or none of both? Or...? Deinstall all bumblee/nvidia-stuff after each kernel update and begin from scratch? I am terrified... :-) :-( ... and I ask myself: do I need the nvidia graphics card? Or is intel enough for my uses? (I need to deal with very large photo files in Gimp and digikam, and later want to edit videos. Sometimes watch a movie. No games.) I'd also especially love to hear opinions about that point, maybe I can save myself all the hazzle (dreaming is allowed, no?). Anybody working with huge photo files/videos with intel only?
Before proceeding in that direction, however, since I chose ext4 over btrfs, I am now working on a reliable and reproducable imaging / partition level backup/restore strategy.
I also found these threads interesting:
http://stackmobile.com/unix/questions/255891 refers to https://github.com/Bumblebee-Project/Bumblebee/issues/699
even more problems on my horizon... Mamaaaaa
Let's stay in touch :-)
regards,
Carl
Thanks for answers to my many questions above. I know, short texts are not one of my outstanding fortitudes. Sorry... Daniel -- Daniel Bauer photographer Basel Barcelona http://www.daniel-bauer.com room in Barcelona: https://www.airbnb.es/rooms/2416137 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Hi Daniel, You're welcome and thank you for your reply! Answers and remarks are interspersed ... On Wed, 2 Mar 2016 10:33:23 +0100 Daniel Bauer wrote: ...
Followed most of that thread, but then it dealt a lot about win (which I have completely eliminated, already the barefacedly private question at the first boot made me pressing the power-off-button even before completing that boot...)
I feel the same way but my work requires it. :-/
and then about non-removable batteries (this laptop has an easy removable one).
As I mentioned in that thread, the battery /is/ removable - not in the traditional sense, I realize - but I'm a tech, so the extra effort doesn't bother me.
However I followed the advice to try a dvd first (no booting problems, holding down esc-key while power-on gave the choice for boot-device), but I did not get aware of the graphics card problem, and not of the touchpad, which will be m next problem to solve...
I knew when I ordered this laptop that it had Optimus technology ... both from the specifications and from reading many other threads. I'm not too concerned. It's a popular brand with desirable specs and components. Whatever issues exist, they'll be resolved in good time. Relax! :-) See here (confirms Intel HD Graphics 530 inside): http://ark.intel.com/products/88967/Intel-Core-i7-6700HQ-Processor-6M-Cache-... and here ('Linux 4.3 Will Let Skylake Graphics Play Out-Of-The-Box'): http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Intel-SLK-Linux-4.3-No-Prelim And the touchpad? I don't think it's a problem. Check this very old and long (but really quite interesting) thread: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1110011 ...
I've been reading this forth and back... hooo...
- did you install with success?
I (technical term) 'hosed' two sequential 13.2 installations before deciding it was too unstable and would require too much work. Leap 42.1 and Mint 17.3 installed beautifully. Note for others: You might want to install Mint 17.3 last. On my system, the Leap 42.1 installer stepped on Mint's grub installation and rendered it unbootable. Reinstalling Mint (very fast) and setting that partition to the top of the boot order yielded reliable booting of all three installed OS's. ...
- do I have to begin with the very beginning (Bumblebee with open source graphics drivers) or begin later (OPTIONAL: Install NVIDIA driver)?
I would slow down! :-) My approach is to get everything else working, first, and reliably so. This is why I'm still working on backup / restore strategies. I can't work on this full time, so I have to be methodical and patient (not easy!) ...
I also read https://forums.opensuse.org/showthread.php/505270-ultimate-tutorial-installi...
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I am terrified... :-) :-(
See above :-) ...
even more problems on my horizon... Mamaaaaa
Again, see above! :-) ...
Thanks for answers to my many questions above. I know, short texts are not one of my outstanding fortitudes. Sorry...
Always a pleasure, Daniel. I'll keep you updated here as I make progress. regards, Carl -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Op dinsdag 1 maart 2016 20:26:47 CET schreef Daniel Bauer:
Hi again :-)
I am installing leap on my new Asus GL552VW-CN113T that has an intel graphics chip and a Nvidia Geforce GTX 960 M.
So I added the nvidia repository, gave it "98" and run a zypper dup on my fresh and fully updated install. When I clicked on the Nvidia-Settings it said I must run nvidia-xconfig as root, what I did.
I got some error messages about missing things (sorry, don't remember exactly what it was) and then - after logging out/in - there was no KDE anymore, only a text-login.
No way to get the graphical environment back, removing all proprietary nvidia things with yast did not help.
Ok, no problem, this is a virgin computer and I simply reinstalled the whole system. Now I have it all updated again (right now without the nvidia-repo...) and would love to make use of this graphic card...
How do I proceed?
Googling tells me a lot about optimus and bumblebee, but I cannot find out if I have an optimus thing (the asus site does not mention this word, and the nvidia page about the card neither).
Google also told me to disable intel graphics in the bios, but there is no such possibility (can only allocate more or less memory).
Thanks for your help!
Daniel
1. Yes, you have an Optimus system. Optimus systems have an Intel GPU + and NVIDIA one. 2. You have two options: - Bumblebee ( which allows you to run individual applications on the NVIDIA by adjusting their startup commands ) - suse-prime ( which allows you to run your entire X session on either the Intel, or the NVIDIA ). The forums contain a couple of threads on suse-prime. Mind, on Tumbleweed the packages is called suse-prime-alt -- Gertjan Lettink, a.k.a. Knurpht openSUSE Board Member openSUSE Forums Team -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Am 02.03.2016 um 10:08 schrieb Knurpht - Gertjan Lettink:
Op dinsdag 1 maart 2016 20:26:47 CET schreef Daniel Bauer:
Hi again :-)
I am installing leap on my new Asus GL552VW-CN113T that has an intel graphics chip and a Nvidia Geforce GTX 960 M.
...
1. Yes, you have an Optimus system. Optimus systems have an Intel GPU + and NVIDIA one. 2. You have two options: - Bumblebee ( which allows you to run individual applications on the NVIDIA by adjusting their startup commands ) - suse-prime ( which allows you to run your entire X session on either the Intel, or the NVIDIA ).
The forums contain a couple of threads on suse-prime. Mind, on Tumbleweed the packages is called suse-prime-alt
Thanks for the clarifying (1) and the prime-hint (2). I was stumbling about prime, too, during my searches. It seems easier to me, because of the kernel-update-problems with bumblebee. I don't care too much, if I have to manually turn on/off the nvidia graphics card, as my graphics-intensive sessions are long, over several days, so no on/off every few minutes... Are there any performance differences (graphics card or system in general) between the two options? What would be your decision in my case? Anyone has experience with both ways? Also over kernel-updates? Also with virtualbox? Daniel -- Daniel Bauer photographer Basel Barcelona http://www.daniel-bauer.com room in Barcelona: https://www.airbnb.es/rooms/2416137 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Op woensdag 2 maart 2016 10:43:56 CET schreef Daniel Bauer:
Am 02.03.2016 um 10:08 schrieb Knurpht - Gertjan Lettink:
Op dinsdag 1 maart 2016 20:26:47 CET schreef Daniel Bauer:
Hi again :-)
I am installing leap on my new Asus GL552VW-CN113T that has an intel graphics chip and a Nvidia Geforce GTX 960 M.
...
1. Yes, you have an Optimus system. Optimus systems have an Intel GPU + and NVIDIA one. 2. You have two options: - Bumblebee ( which allows you to run individual applications on the NVIDIA by adjusting their startup commands ) - suse-prime ( which allows you to run your entire X session on either the Intel, or the NVIDIA ).
The forums contain a couple of threads on suse-prime. Mind, on Tumbleweed the packages is called suse-prime-alt
Thanks for the clarifying (1) and the prime-hint (2).
I was stumbling about prime, too, during my searches. It seems easier to me, because of the kernel-update-problems with bumblebee.
I don't care too much, if I have to manually turn on/off the nvidia graphics card, as my graphics-intensive sessions are long, over several days, so no on/off every few minutes...
Are there any performance differences (graphics card or system in general) between the two options?
IME the NVIDIA performs much better using suse-prime than using Bumblebee.
What would be your decision in my case?
Maybe this says it best: since testing the suse-prime packages Bo Simonsen made for openSUSE I'm a happy user of both the Intel and the NVIDIA. No way I'm going back to bumblebee. This won't work though with the drivers from the NVIDIA repo ( since they replace some openGL files by symlinks ). You need the drivers from the home:/ Bumblebee-Project:/nVidia:/latest/YOUR_openSUSE_Version repo. The one installed right now needs to be uninstalled, you also need to force a reinstall of the Mesa package, also Mesa-32bit if installed. Next install the suse-prime packages through software.opensuse.org, read the notes on the package page.
Anyone has experience with both ways? Also over kernel-updates? Also with virtualbox?
Yep. See comment Kernel-updates: on a kernel update the driver packages get updates too I don't understand the question about virtualbox, it has no relation to Intel/ NVIDIA.
Daniel
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Am 02.03.2016 um 14:27 schrieb Knurpht - Gertjan Lettink:
Op woensdag 2 maart 2016 10:43:56 CET schreef Daniel Bauer:
Am 02.03.2016 um 10:08 schrieb Knurpht - Gertjan Lettink:
Op dinsdag 1 maart 2016 20:26:47 CET schreef Daniel Bauer:
Hi again :-)
I am installing leap on my new Asus GL552VW-CN113T that has an intel graphics chip and a Nvidia Geforce GTX 960 M. ... ...
Are there any performance differences (graphics card or system in general) between the two options?
IME the NVIDIA performs much better using suse-prime than using Bumblebee.
What would be your decision in my case?
Maybe this says it best: since testing the suse-prime packages Bo Simonsen made for openSUSE I'm a happy user of both the Intel and the NVIDIA. No way I'm going back to bumblebee.
Thanks you for the very clear answer. I'll give it a try. Some little things though puzzle me:
This won't work though with the drivers from the NVIDIA repo ( since they replace some openGL files by symlinks ).
With the new install I did /not/ add the nvidia repo. Have not tinkered anything in regard of graphics card since this install.. You need the drivers from the home:/
Bumblebee-Project:/nVidia:/latest/YOUR_openSUSE_Version repo.
https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/home:bosim:suse-prime/suse-prime says: Assumptions: ... You installed nvidia drivers using http://opensuse-community.org/nvidia.ymp also https://forums.opensuse.org/showthread.php/512260-Leap-42-1-Optimus-system-w... points to there Which driver will I gave to select?
The one installed right now needs to be uninstalled,
Which one? No nvidia-repo installed. Yast search for "nvidia" give me the following installed packages: libdrm_nouveau2 libdrm_nouveau2-32bit xf86_video_nouveau xf86_video_nv you also need to force a
reinstall of the Mesa package, also Mesa-32bit if installed.
Just now, or after I did something else?
Next install the suse-prime packages through software.opensuse.org, read the notes on the package page.
Sorry for my ignorance and all those questions... and thanks for your help! Daniel -- Daniel Bauer photographer Basel Barcelona http://www.daniel-bauer.com room in Barcelona: https://www.airbnb.es/rooms/2416137 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Am 02.03.2016 um 14:27 schrieb Knurpht - Gertjan Lettink: ...
IME the NVIDIA performs much better using suse-prime than using Bumblebee.
What would be your decision in my case?
Maybe this says it best: since testing the suse-prime packages Bo Simonsen made for openSUSE I'm a happy user of both the Intel and the NVIDIA. No way I'm going back to bumblebee. This won't work though with the drivers from the NVIDIA repo ( since they replace some openGL files by symlinks ). You need the drivers from the home:/ Bumblebee-Project:/nVidia:/latest/YOUR_openSUSE_Version repo. The one installed right now needs to be uninstalled, you also need to force a reinstall of the Mesa package, also Mesa-32bit if installed. Next install the suse-prime packages through software.opensuse.org, read the notes on the package page.
As all the little boys I couldn't wait for the answer and just went on playing :-) After a complete backup I - put http://opensuse-community.org/nvidia.ymp in the browser location - clicked "install using yast", waited to finish - forced reinstall of Mesa and Mesa-32bit - went with browser to software.opensuse.org, searched for suse-prime and clicked the 1 Click Install - added the if... to /etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup as said on the project page - run "prime-select nvidia" as root - logged out and in again et voila: - info centre shows nvidia card - nvidia control center starts So I guess, that's it! So cool! Thanks, thanks, and thanks for the great help! Daniel -- Daniel Bauer photographer Basel Barcelona http://www.daniel-bauer.com room in Barcelona: https://www.airbnb.es/rooms/2416137 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Op woensdag 2 maart 2016 18:21:25 CET schreef Daniel Bauer:
- run "prime-select nvidia" as root - logged out and in again et voila:
- info centre shows nvidia card - nvidia control center starts
So I guess, that's it! So cool!
Great you got it to work. Exactly how I feel about suse-prime.
Daniel
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On Wed, 2 Mar 2016 18:21:25 +0100 Daniel Bauer wrote:
As all the little boys I couldn't wait for the answer and just went on playing :-)
After a complete backup I - put http://opensuse-community.org/nvidia.ymp in the browser location - clicked "install using yast", waited to finish - forced reinstall of Mesa and Mesa-32bit - went with browser to software.opensuse.org, searched for suse-prime and clicked the 1 Click Install - added the if... to /etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup as said on the project page - run "prime-select nvidia" as root - logged out and in again et voila:
- info centre shows nvidia card - nvidia control center starts
Great new, Daniel! :-) ... And thanks for the guidance, Gertjan! Carl -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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