[opensuse] separate browser logins vs separate instance X display
Hi again, all -- I have multiple cloud accounts (A, B, ...) and access them all at the same time. One way to do that is to click the little account tab and change the login (A, B, ...) in the browser. Another way is to have separate users (A@wench, B@wench, ...) on my laptop and fire off the browser as that user and display it on my (davidtg@wench) screen after running xhost. Any thoughts on which approach is cleaner, faster, better in general? TIA again & HAND :-D -- David T-G See http://justpickone.org/davidtg/email/ See http://justpickone.org/davidtg/tofu.txt -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2018-04-17 00:30, David T-G wrote:
Hi again, all --
I have multiple cloud accounts (A, B, ...) and access them all at the same time. One way to do that is to click the little account tab and change the login (A, B, ...) in the browser.
Change the login in the browser? You mean login to the cloud account, right? Because I can not think of a login to firefox.
Another way is to have separate users (A@wench, B@wench, ...) on my laptop and fire off the browser as that user and display it on my (davidtg@wench) screen after running xhost.
Any thoughts on which approach is cleaner, faster, better in general?
I have some difficulty understanding. -- Cheers/Saludos Carlos E. R. (testing openSUSE Leap 15.0, at Minas-Anor) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Carlos, et al -- ...and then Carlos E. R. said... % % On 2018-04-17 00:30, David T-G wrote: % > % >I have multiple cloud accounts (A, B, ...) and access them all at the % >same time. One way to do that is to click the little account tab and % >change the login (A, B, ...) in the browser. % % Change the login in the browser? You mean login to the cloud % account, right? Because I can not think of a login to firefox. Yes, that's mostly a Chrom* thing, I think. Up in the top right corner will be a little tab with a name on it, and that's how you're logged in on the browser, which segregates cookies and sessions and so on. BUT then I have to make sure the login is right on each browser instance so that I don't try managing one property with another property's account and such, soooo... The alternative (that comes to my mind, anyway; there could be more ways) is to ssh to A@localhost and set $DISPLAY and run the browser, which gives me all of those processes running as user A instead of as me and ensures that any window forked off of that is still running in the "A" context. Oh, and it works for FFox that doesn't know from accounts within the browser, too. But I have to chase display vars and figure out how to fire off the browser from the command line and so on... % ... % > % >Any thoughts on which approach is cleaner, faster, better in general? % % I have some difficulty understanding. Not surprising; I'm in a distracting environment and I know I could do better. Sorry about that, and I hope that this clarifies. Thanks again & HAND :-D -- David T-G See http://justpickone.org/davidtg/email/ See http://justpickone.org/davidtg/tofu.txt -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2018-04-17 01:22, David T-G wrote:
Carlos, et al --
...and then Carlos E. R. said... % % On 2018-04-17 00:30, David T-G wrote: % > % >I have multiple cloud accounts (A, B, ...) and access them all at the % >same time. One way to do that is to click the little account tab and % >change the login (A, B, ...) in the browser. % % Change the login in the browser? You mean login to the cloud % account, right? Because I can not think of a login to firefox.
Yes, that's mostly a Chrom* thing, I think. Up in the top right corner will be a little tab with a name on it, and that's how you're logged in on the browser, which segregates cookies and sessions and so on. BUT then I have to make sure the login is right on each browser instance so that I don't try managing one property with another property's account and such, soooo...
And also means that Google tracks you by name ;-)
The alternative (that comes to my mind, anyway; there could be more ways) is to ssh to A@localhost and set $DISPLAY and run the browser, which gives me all of those processes running as user A instead of as me and ensures that any window forked off of that is still running in the "A" context. Oh, and it works for FFox that doesn't know from accounts within the browser, too. But I have to chase display vars and figure out how to fire off the browser from the command line and so on...
You can "ssh -X user@localhost" and the vars will be correct. In the case of FF you have to use "firefox --no-remote &" and that's all. Chrome may have a similar option, dunno. Or you can instead do "su - user" and start FF the same manner. Or, you can in firefox create a new profile, and then start that profile with "firefox -P Amazon --no-remote &", for instance - that's how I start a different profile dedicated to Amazon, so that they can't track me that easily (and in other profiles I prohibit amazon from storing cookies). FF profiles are completely separate instances.
% ... % > % >Any thoughts on which approach is cleaner, faster, better in general? % % I have some difficulty understanding.
Not surprising; I'm in a distracting environment and I know I could do better. Sorry about that, and I hope that this clarifies.
No problem, now I think I understood :-) -- Cheers/Saludos Carlos E. R. (testing openSUSE Leap 15.0, at Minas-Anor) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Carlos, et al -- ...and then Carlos E. R. said... % % On 2018-04-17 01:22, David T-G wrote: % > % >...and then Carlos E. R. said... % >% % >% On 2018-04-17 00:30, David T-G wrote: % >% > ... % >% >change the login (A, B, ...) in the browser. % >% % >% Change the login in the browser? You mean login to the cloud % >% account, right? Because I can not think of a login to firefox. % > % >Yes, that's mostly a Chrom* thing, I think. Up in the top right corner ... % >that I don't try managing one property with another property's account % >and such, soooo... % % And also means that Google tracks you by name ;-) Well, yeah. At this point I don't have time to deal with the mess otherwise and don't really care who tracks how many nights my vacation homes are rented. Heck, maybe he'll be so interested he'll book a trip :-) % % >The alternative (that comes to my mind, anyway; there could be more ways) % >is to ssh to A@localhost and set $DISPLAY and run the browser, which ... % >within the browser, too. But I have to chase display vars and figure out % >how to fire off the browser from the command line and so on... % % You can "ssh -X user@localhost" and the vars will be correct. In the Oh, I had completely forgotten about -X. That is good, too. % case of FF you have to use "firefox --no-remote &" and that's all. % Chrome may have a similar option, dunno. Yeah. Workin' on that. % % Or you can instead do "su - user" and start FF the same manner. Ew. I hate su; I'd much rather work with ssh. % % Or, you can in firefox create a new profile, and then start that % profile with "firefox -P Amazon --no-remote &", for instance - ... % % FF profiles are completely separate instances. [snip] Oho! That's very interesting to know; thanks! HAND :-D -- David T-G See http://justpickone.org/davidtg/email/ See http://justpickone.org/davidtg/tofu.txt -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
just on the same subject: some time ago my Facebook account was compromised by the Firefox flash plugin. As soon as my connection to facebook was open my account was publishing adds about cheap iphones, even just after I changed my passwd. I blamed flash after cautious tests, and since I removed it no more adds :-( but since I always open Facebook on an other browser (chromium). I also, at the same time discovered the ability of plasma to open an application in a dedicated windows, so now when I start a common session, I clic on Thunderbird, chromium, Firefox, kpat and the four of then open in the first four of my 8 desktops. nearly as good to separate workflow as several users jdd -- http://dodin.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Firefox now has a container plugin, which can sandbox each tab to allow for multiple logins on the same website. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/multi-account-containers/ -Mike -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Am 17.04.2018 um 18:53 schrieb Mike Henry:
Firefox now has a container plugin, which can sandbox each tab to allow for multiple logins on the same website.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/multi-account-containers/
-Mike
super!!! I had a similar problem which is perfectly solved with these containers!! thx a lot Karl -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Mike, et al -- ...and then Mike Henry said... % % Firefox now has a container plugin, which can sandbox each tab to % allow for multiple logins on the same website. % % https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/multi-account-containers/ Oooh! That's very interesting. Definitely gonna have to poke at that one. Thanks! HAND :-D -- David T-G See http://justpickone.org/davidtg/email/ See http://justpickone.org/davidtg/tofu.txt -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
jdd, et al -- ...and then jdd@dodin.org said... % ... % application in a dedicated windows, so now when I start a common % session, I clic on Thunderbird, chromium, Firefox, kpat and the four % of then open in the first four of my 8 desktops. [snip] I also use separate desktops :-) HAND :-D -- David T-G See http://justpickone.org/davidtg/email/ See http://justpickone.org/davidtg/tofu.txt -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Mon, 16 Apr 2018 18:30:29 -0400 David T-G <davidtg-robot@justpickone.org> wrote:
Any thoughts on which approach is cleaner, faster, better in general?
Depends what kind of accounts. If they're messaging systems, you might want to look at Franz: https://meetfranz.com/ There's no SUSE package but the AppImage works fine if you make the documented tweaks for Appimage support. I find it indispensable now. For web site logins, I generally run Firefox ESR or Waterfox _and_ Chrome simultaneously on all my machines/OSes. This gives me 2 separated sets of logins, which is enough for my needs. I just need to recall which account is associated with which browser, and with a choice of 2 I find that perfectly doable. -- Liam Proven - Technical Writer, SUSE Linux s.r.o. Corso II, Křižíkova 148/34, 186-00 Praha 8 - Karlín, Czechia Email: lproven@suse.com - Office telephone: +420 284 241 084 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Liam, et al -- ...and then Liam Proven said... % % On Mon, 16 Apr 2018 18:30:29 -0400 % David T-G <davidtg-robot@justpickone.org> wrote: % % > Any thoughts on which approach is cleaner, faster, better in general? % % Depends what kind of accounts. % % If they're messaging systems, you might want to look at Franz: Not so much. % ... % For web site logins, I generally run Firefox ESR or Waterfox _and_ % Chrome simultaneously on all my machines/OSes. This gives me 2 Yes, this is much closer. I have my gmail account that drives my phone, plus I have a separate google account for me because I don't actually do gmail. This allows me to separate my calendar a bit as a bonus. I have Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter accounts for myself. I have the Get Inspired Flight account with its calendars and its various logins, including to FB, IG, and Twitter that aren't me. I have three property accounts, each of which needs to talk to management sites like VRBO and AirBnB individually, which is where the real need for account separation comes in. Oh, and calendars and voice again, although those are the least challenging. I'll probably play with FFox profiles a bit, but since I do still predict that I'll run two browser flavors and the two don't manage the same way, I'm leaning toward multiple OS accounts and remote X display. In my copious free time :-)/2 % separated sets of logins, which is enough for my needs. I just need to % recall which account is associated with which browser, and with a % choice of 2 I find that perfectly doable. If only things were that simple :-) Thanks again & HAND :-D -- David T-G See http://justpickone.org/davidtg/email/ See http://justpickone.org/davidtg/tofu.txt -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2018-04-17 12:47, David T-G wrote:
I'll probably play with FFox profiles a bit, but since I do still predict that I'll run two browser flavors and the two don't manage the same way, I'm leaning toward multiple OS accounts and remote X display. In my copious free time :-)/2
I started using different users to separate FF pseudo profiles, but this posed difficulties when trying to send a file, which obviously resides in my "real" user account, and the other files did not have permissions. Then I found about profiles (someone here suggested it), and it is perfect for separation. FF use a different directory tree for each profile, and everything is separated: plugins, history, bookmarks, cookies... all. But files can read anywhere in the user, obviously. It runs a different process, too. There is another plugin that puts the name of the profile in the tittle bar. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.3 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)
Carlos, et al -- ...and then Carlos E. R. said... % % On 2018-04-17 12:47, David T-G wrote: % > I'll probably play with FFox profiles a bit, but since I do still predict % > that I'll run two browser flavors and the two don't manage the same way, % > I'm leaning toward multiple OS accounts and remote X display. In my % > copious free time :-)/2 % % I started using different users to separate FF pseudo profiles, but this % posed difficulties when trying to send a file, which obviously resides % in my "real" user account, and the other files did not have permissions. That's no problem, since I also keep all of the photos in separate cloud accounts and have separate trees for local files. I'm already pretty segregated to stay ahead of the insanity :-) I definitely owe profiles a look, though. Thanks. % ... % There is another plugin that puts the name of the profile in the tittle bar. That would be helpful regardless of which approach I take. Color schemes can only go so far :-) % % -- % Cheers / Saludos, % % Carlos E. R. % (from 42.3 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar) Thanks again & HAND :-D -- David T-G See http://justpickone.org/davidtg/email/ See http://justpickone.org/davidtg/tofu.txt -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Carlos, et al -- ...and then Carlos E. R. said... % % On 2018-04-17 12:47, David T-G wrote: % > I'll probably play with FFox profiles a bit, but since I do still predict ... % % There is another plugin that puts the name of the profile in the tittle bar. Any pointers to this? I found "show-profile" but it only puts the profile name on the tabs, and only certain ones at that. Hmmm. I also found Xetcom's Red, Green, Grey profile icon add-ons, but they don't seem to do anything. I'd love to replace the icons with my own images anyway; if anyone has any pointers to how to do that to jump-start me, I'd love 'em :-) Meanwhile, I'm setting up my various profiles and trying to figure out this new way of keeping everything straight. Woo hoo. Thanks again & HAND :-D -- David T-G See http://justpickone.org/davidtg/email/ See http://justpickone.org/davidtg/tofu.txt -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2018-04-28 00:44, David T-G wrote:
Carlos, et al --
...and then Carlos E. R. said... % % On 2018-04-17 12:47, David T-G wrote: % > I'll probably play with FFox profiles a bit, but since I do still predict ... % % There is another plugin that puts the name of the profile in the tittle bar.
Any pointers to this? I found "show-profile" but it only puts the profile name on the tabs, and only certain ones at that. Hmmm.
Wait a minute, I'll check. [...] It is indeed "Show profile" by neo82. On preferences, one of the ticks is "show on menu bar". There is another (above the other one) to show on tittle and refresh every 5 seconds. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.3 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)
On Tue, 17 Apr 2018 06:47:25 -0400 David T-G <davidtg-robot@justpickone.org> wrote:
I'll probably play with FFox profiles a bit
That sounds the best probability from what you've said. You can run multiple instances at once so long as they point to different F'fox profiles: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Opening_a_new_instance_of_Firefox_with_another_pro... -- Liam Proven - Technical Writer, SUSE Linux s.r.o. Corso II, Křižíkova 148/34, 186-00 Praha 8 - Karlín, Czechia Email: lproven@suse.com - Office telephone: +420 284 241 084 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
David T-G composed on 2018-04-17 06:47 (UTC-0400):
% separated sets of logins, which is enough for my needs. I just need to % recall which account is associated with which browser, and with a % choice of 2 I find that perfectly doable.
If only things were that simple :-)
Simple enough here: http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/KDE/internetBrowserMenuKDE.gif Each Mozilla Internet Web Browser menu entry starts the application using a specific profile, except for the two that include the string "distro" and the one that's simply "Firefox" (put there by the Firefox ESR rpm). Those three open the application's profile chooser. -- "Wisdom is supreme; therefore get wisdom. Whatever else you get, get wisdom." Proverbs 4:7 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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