What's Up With the Guru -> YaST Repository Transfer?
Hi, Packages announced as much as a full day ago on the Guru's RPM RSS feed have yet to show up in its YaST repository (http://ftp4.gwdg.de/pub/linux/misc/suser-guru/rpm/10.0 -- and yes, I do have update checking enabled in the Installation Sources configuration; I also did a manual refresh). Am I just being too impatient, or has something stalled? Randall Schulz
Hi, On Tue, 22 Nov 2005, Randall R Schulz wrote:
Packages announced as much as a full day ago on the Guru's RPM RSS feed have yet to show up in its YaST repository (http://ftp4.gwdg.de/pub/linux/misc/suser-guru/rpm/10.0 -- and yes, I do have update checking enabled in the Installation Sources configuration; I also did a manual refresh).
Am I just being too impatient, or has something stalled?
The last update was five hours ago, successful. Cheers -e -- Eberhard Moenkeberg (emoenke@gwdg.de, em@kki.org)
Eberhard, On Tuesday 22 November 2005 08:16, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:
Hi,
On Tue, 22 Nov 2005, Randall R Schulz wrote:
Packages announced as much as a full day ago on the Guru's RPM RSS feed have yet to show up in its YaST repository (http://ftp4.gwdg.de/pub/linux/misc/suser-guru/rpm/10.0 -- and yes, I do have update checking enabled in the Installation Sources configuration; I also did a manual refresh).
Am I just being too impatient, or has something stalled?
The last update was five hours ago, successful.
Then something is broken.
Cheers -e
Not yet. Randall Schulz
Hi, On Tue, 22 Nov 2005, Randall R Schulz wrote:
On Tuesday 22 November 2005 08:16, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:
On Tue, 22 Nov 2005, Randall R Schulz wrote:
Packages announced as much as a full day ago on the Guru's RPM RSS feed have yet to show up in its YaST repository (http://ftp4.gwdg.de/pub/linux/misc/suser-guru/rpm/10.0 -- and yes, I do have update checking enabled in the Installation Sources configuration; I also did a manual refresh).
Am I just being too impatient, or has something stalled?
The last update was five hours ago, successful.
Then something is broken.
What is missing? Cheers -e -- Eberhard Moenkeberg (emoenke@gwdg.de, em@kki.org)
Eberhard, On Tuesday 22 November 2005 08:34, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:
Hi,
On Tue, 22 Nov 2005, Randall R Schulz wrote:
On Tuesday 22 November 2005 08:16, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:
On Tue, 22 Nov 2005, Randall R Schulz wrote:
...
Am I just being too impatient, or has something stalled?
The last update was five hours ago, successful.
Then something is broken.
What is missing?
All the packages announced on the Guru's RPM RSS feed (http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/rss.php) since 7:12 AM PST (GMT - 8) yesterday. Superkaramba 0.37_0.2 and everything newer.
Cheers -e
Still not cheery. Randall Schulz
Hi, On Tue, 22 Nov 2005, Randall R Schulz wrote:
On Tuesday 22 November 2005 08:34, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:
On Tue, 22 Nov 2005, Randall R Schulz wrote:
On Tuesday 22 November 2005 08:16, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:
On Tue, 22 Nov 2005, Randall R Schulz wrote:
...
Am I just being too impatient, or has something stalled?
The last update was five hours ago, successful.
Then something is broken.
What is missing?
All the packages announced on the Guru's RPM RSS feed (http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/rss.php) since 7:12 AM PST (GMT - 8) yesterday. Superkaramba 0.37_0.2 and everything newer.
emoenke@ftp4:2 18:11:46 /ftp/pub/linux/misc/suser-guru/rpm/packages/Utilities/superkaramba > dir insgesamt 9388 drwxr-xr-x 3 emoenke ftp 4096 2005-11-20 16:12 . drwxr-xr-x 80 emoenke ftp 4096 2005-11-21 16:19 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 emoenke ftp 2322 2004-06-22 00:00 icon.png drwxr-xr-x 2 emoenke ftp 4096 2005-11-20 16:12 src -rw-r--r-- 1 emoenke ftp 823084 2005-04-20 22:11 superkaramba-0.36-1.guru.suse82.kde31.i686.rpm -rw-r--r-- 1 emoenke ftp 516304 2005-04-20 22:07 superkaramba-0.36-1.guru.suse90.kde31.i686.rpm -rw-r--r-- 1 emoenke ftp 517127 2005-04-20 22:05 superkaramba-0.36-1.guru.suse91.kde32.i686.rpm -rw-r--r-- 1 emoenke ftp 517157 2005-04-20 21:51 superkaramba-0.36-1.guru.suse91.kde33.i686.rpm -rw-r--r-- 1 emoenke ftp 520547 2005-04-20 21:47 superkaramba-0.36-1.guru.suse92.kde33.i686.rpm -rw-r--r-- 1 emoenke ftp 521321 2005-04-20 21:42 superkaramba-0.36-1.guru.suse93.kde34.i686.rpm -rw-r--r-- 1 emoenke ftp 515121 2005-11-20 16:12 superkaramba-0.37_0.2-1.guru.suse100.kde.i686.rpm -rw-r--r-- 1 emoenke ftp 2057514 2005-11-20 16:05 superkaramba-0.37_0.2-1.guru.suse92.kde33.i686.rpm -rw-r--r-- 1 emoenke ftp 543224 2005-11-20 15:59 superkaramba-0.37_0.2-1.guru.suse93.kde34.i686.rpm -rw-r--r-- 1 emoenke ftp 1395894 2005-11-20 16:12 superkaramba-debuginfo-0.37_0.2-1.guru.suse100.kde.i686.rpm -rw-r--r-- 1 emoenke ftp 1601467 2005-11-20 15:59 superkaramba-debuginfo-0.37_0.2-1.guru.suse93.kde34.i686.rpm emoenke@ftp4:2 18:11:50 /ftp/pub/linux/misc/suser-guru/rpm/packages/Utilities/superkaramba > Cheers -e -- Eberhard Moenkeberg (emoenke@gwdg.de, em@kki.org)
Eberhard, On Tuesday 22 November 2005 09:13, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:
Hi,
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What is missing?
All the packages announced on the Guru's RPM RSS feed (http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/rss.php) since 7:12 AM PST (GMT - 8) yesterday. Superkaramba 0.37_0.2 and everything newer.
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OK, so not _all_ of them are missing, but not all of them are there, either. Look in http://ftp4.gwdg.de/pub/linux/misc/suser-guru/rpm/10.0/RPMS/i686/. Superkaramba, di and gcfilms at least are missing and they're the ones I want. RRS
Hi, On Tue, 22 Nov 2005, Randall R Schulz wrote:
On Tuesday 22 November 2005 09:13, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:
What is missing?
All the packages announced on the Guru's RPM RSS feed (http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/rss.php) since 7:12 AM PST (GMT - 8) yesterday. Superkaramba 0.37_0.2 and everything newer.
...
OK, so not _all_ of them are missing, but not all of them are there, either.
Look in http://ftp4.gwdg.de/pub/linux/misc/suser-guru/rpm/10.0/RPMS/i686/. Superkaramba, di and gcfilms at least are missing and they're the ones I want.
Maybe Pascal has forgotten to symlink some files. Nothing is missing at ftp or ftp4 - both are in sync with Pascal's home. Cheers -e -- Eberhard Moenkeberg (emoenke@gwdg.de, em@kki.org)
On Tuesday 22 November 2005 09:46, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:
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Maybe Pascal has forgotten to symlink some files. Nothing is missing at ftp or ftp4 - both are in sync with Pascal's home.
For crying out loud! Why are we having this exchange if you cannot or will not do anything about the problem? RRS
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For crying out loud! Why are we having this exchange if you cannot or will not do anything about the problem?
Because the problem is not on his side? Perhaps you should contact Pascal directly.
RRS
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Hi, On Tue, 22 Nov 2005, Randall R Schulz wrote:
On Tuesday 22 November 2005 09:46, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:
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Maybe Pascal has forgotten to symlink some files. Nothing is missing at ftp or ftp4 - both are in sync with Pascal's home.
For crying out loud! Why are we having this exchange if you cannot or will not do anything about the problem?
Crazy, man... There is no problem at ftp or ftp4. Cheers -e -- Eberhard Moenkeberg (emoenke@gwdg.de, em@kki.org)
On Tuesday 22 November 2005 10:09, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:
Hi,
On Tue, 22 Nov 2005, Randall R Schulz wrote:
On Tuesday 22 November 2005 09:46, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:
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Maybe Pascal has forgotten to symlink some files. Nothing is missing at ftp or ftp4 - both are in sync with Pascal's home.
For crying out loud! Why are we having this exchange if you cannot or will not do anything about the problem?
Crazy, man... There is no problem at ftp or ftp4.
So you keep repeating. But I don't care where the problem isn't. If the problem isn't yours, stop replying! I didn't address this to you, I addressed it to the list so someone who _does_ know what the problem is and _can_ do something about the problem will do so. If that's not you, then I don't need to hear from you.
Cheers -e
Repeating this is insulting. RRS
Randall R Schulz wrote:
problem isn't yours, stop replying! I didn't address this to you, I addressed it to the list so someone who _does_ know what the problem is and _can_ do something about the problem will do so. If that's not you, then I don't need to hear from you.
So you keep repeating. But I don't care where the problem isn't. If the Hey,
In your first post you were crying, ftp4.gwdg.de had a problem.. who else then Eberhard would be better to solve this issue? Have you looked at his address? it's @gwdg.de... so maybe he might have some access you don't have?? And he's always the nice guy checking that these mirrors are up and running... so: probably if Eberhard says so, there's nothing that can be done on the gwdg-mirrors! You could use whatever mirror with this repository and you'd have the same fault... So, first read some netiquettes about being friendly on lists, then think about the guys are trying to help, rephrase all sentences before sending them, and everybody will like to help you as good as possible... Cheers
well spoken Dominique! venting and flaming on this forum is not productive...patience and tolerance seem to go a long way in getting help. otherwise, well, you know.... jr On Tue, 2005-11-22 at 19:55 +0200, Dominique Leuenberger wrote:
Randall R Schulz wrote:
problem isn't yours, stop replying! I didn't address this to you, I addressed it to the list so someone who _does_ know what the problem is and _can_ do something about the problem will do so. If that's not you, then I don't need to hear from you.
So you keep repeating. But I don't care where the problem isn't. If the Hey,
In your first post you were crying, ftp4.gwdg.de had a problem.. who else then Eberhard would be better to solve this issue? Have you looked at his address? it's @gwdg.de... so maybe he might have some access you don't have?? And he's always the nice guy checking that these mirrors are up and running...
so: probably if Eberhard says so, there's nothing that can be done on the gwdg-mirrors! You could use whatever mirror with this repository and you'd have the same fault...
So, first read some netiquettes about being friendly on lists, then think about the guys are trying to help, rephrase all sentences before sending them, and everybody will like to help you as good as possible...
Cheers
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On 22/11/05, Randall R Schulz
On Tuesday 22 November 2005 10:09, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:
Crazy, man... There is no problem at ftp or ftp4.
So you keep repeating. But I don't care where the problem isn't. If the problem isn't yours, stop replying! I didn't address this to you, I addressed it to the list so someone who _does_ know what the problem is and _can_ do something about the problem will do so. If that's not you, then I don't need to hear from you.
isn't he telling you to use the ftp or ftp4 servers? Marcus -- Photos : www.flickr.com/photos/marcusc Blog : marcusbrain.blogspot.com `The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side.' HST
Hi, On Tue, 22 Nov 2005, Randall R Schulz wrote:
On Tuesday 22 November 2005 10:09, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:
On Tue, 22 Nov 2005, Randall R Schulz wrote:
On Tuesday 22 November 2005 09:46, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:
...
Maybe Pascal has forgotten to symlink some files. Nothing is missing at ftp or ftp4 - both are in sync with Pascal's home.
For crying out loud! Why are we having this exchange if you cannot or will not do anything about the problem?
Crazy, man... There is no problem at ftp or ftp4.
So you keep repeating. But I don't care where the problem isn't. If the problem isn't yours, stop replying! I didn't address this to you, I addressed it to the list so someone who _does_ know what the problem is and _can_ do something about the problem will do so. If that's not you, then I don't need to hear from you.
Didn't you get your drugs today? Cheers -e -- Eberhard Moenkeberg (emoenke@gwdg.de, em@kki.org)
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Randall R Schulz wrote:
On Tuesday 22 November 2005 10:09, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:
On Tue, 22 Nov 2005, Randall R Schulz wrote:
On Tuesday 22 November 2005 09:46, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:
... Maybe Pascal has forgotten to symlink some files. Nothing is missing at ftp or ftp4 - both are in sync with Pascal's home.
Hmhm, it's something that had to happen sooner or later. Some weeks ago, the rsync with my packages was done at a given time (I won't disclose here ;P) and I have a cronjob running a script that generates the repository metadata for yast2 and opencarpet. Now, Eberhard and I experienced very weird issues with rsync that were related to the extreme load the ftp*.gwdg.de servers were under. It seems it has gotten much better now, and rsyncs are reliable again (at least I didn't notice any failure the last weeks). It also has to do with the fact that Eberhard makes several syncs per night, at different times (that seem unpredictable to me, but maybe I'm just not looking hard enough ;)). So, what very likely happened: - - rsync with ftp.gwdg.de to fetch the packages - - at, say, 03:00 AM my cronjob generates the yast2 and opencarpet metadata - - no rsync happened after that Eberhard, could you please send me a private mail with the current sync time(s) ? Or maybe you have a better idea how to solve this consistently, which wouldn't be the first time :) Actually the apt-rpm repositories are generated on ftp*.gwdg.de, by Eberhard and with help from Richard Bos (who's pretty much the "apt-rpm on SUSE guru" :)). On the other hand, other repository formats such as YaST2 and opencarpet (Red Carpet) are generated by myself on my server before it gets synched on gwdg.de. That explains why you should never have such issues when using the apt-rpm repositories on gwdg, but it might happen with my YaST2 repository. But we're going to work on that. The bugger is on my side, sorry for that.
For crying out loud! Why are we having this exchange if you cannot or will not do anything about the problem? Crazy, man... There is no problem at ftp or ftp4.
So you keep repeating. But I don't care where the problem isn't. If the problem isn't yours, stop replying! I didn't address this to you, I addressed it to the list so someone who _does_ know what the problem is and _can_ do something about the problem will do so. If that's not you, then I don't need to hear from you.
Gosh... Randall, could you please calm down a bit...
You had an issue with my repository, so I would have been the first person to contact.. well.. at
least it's what I would do ;)
Thanks for reporting the issue, I'm sure Eberhard and I can find a way to avoid that from happening
again. Believe me, he's a technically very savvy person and has always been tremendously helpful,
especially with regards to the SUSE community. If he wasn't so committed (as well as Richard Bos),
we wouldn't have all those package repositories (except for packman, although even packman uses the
gwdg.de infrastructure for the apt repositories).
Sidenote: again, Eberhard, I'll never say "thank you" often enough, kudos ;)))
cheers
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-o) Pascal Bleser http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/
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On Tue, Nov 22, 2005 at 11:09:24PM +0100, Pascal Bleser wrote:
Or maybe you have a better idea how to solve this consistently, which wouldn't be the first time :)
There is a solution for this: 1. Make a hard linked copy (cp -al) of the current version to a temporary directory that is not accessible from the outside. 2. Run your scripts/whatever on the copy. 3. Do an almost atomic replacement my moving away the old version to a temporary directory and instead moving the new version to the public place. --- This is almost atomic because moving two directories within one file system this way only involves four directory entry changes. 4. Remove the old version. The only point in time where an inconsistent state is visible from the outside here is the few milliseconds between both moves mentioned in 3. Robert -- Robert Schiele Tel.: +49-621-181-2214 Dipl.-Wirtsch.informatiker mailto:rschiele@uni-mannheim.de
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