It's true, every time! I am using SuSE 7.2 with KDE3. Whenever I log into my bank using konqeror I go through the login pages, I get to my bank balance & then my machine slows right down. The hard drive rattles away and minutes later the whole machine locks up. Only way out is to power off & on! The bank in question is the Natwest Bank (UK) http://www.natwest.com. It uses Java extensively and suggests that you use netscape 4.77 or IE 5.01 to view the site. I've tried netscape 4.77 (again from Linux) and it just locks up (doesn't crash the box though). I guess it just can't handle the large negative numbers :-(( Phil