[opensuse] Mandy 7.2 fires right up after 3-4 years sitting on a shelf!
Listmates, Had to share this somewhat comical but painfully fun event. Long ago I retired my mandrake 7.2 (odyssey) server and the box had gone through a number of changes since I yanked the 40G IBM Deskstar drive out of it after (??) 4 years of continual service. The network card was new, the video card was new, but despite the changes, when I put the drive back into the box - 7.2 fired right up! Remember linuxconf? Remember when you were not even presented with a list of potential modules to load, but instead had to look in /lib/modules/<kernel> just to find something that looked close like the 3c90x.ko module to get a 3c950 card running? Recall the old drakes - XFdrake, menudrake, etc.? Man what a trip down memory lane and talk about cobweb filled memories. The entire ordeal was prompted by a new lady that I hired today needing a box put together on the quick. I wasn't going to sacrifice the raid array in the box or the spare 250G drive in there that I still had not had time to parse through to make sure I wasn't throwing anything important away. Thus, the old 40G was enlisted to pull another tour of duty, and... for the first time in its 8 year life, it was spoon fed -- windows.... yuk! So we bid a fair adieu to mandy 7.2, and 12 hours later had a fully updated XP install, complete with a slew of the little utilities I can't live without (fileMenuTools, FMview, mysql gui tools, etc...) and topped off with a full MS Office, OpenOffice, Gimp, PaintShop Pro, and imagemagick install with all updates through SP3 to current installed. (What a painful process) The more you have to go back a tinker with windows, the more you appreciate the elegance of Linux and the distribution Novell has put together. The trip down memory lane with mandy 7.2 and KDE 2 also showed just how far KDE3 had come since the early days. We can only hope that KDE4 can achieve as much. (P.S. Next time I'm just buying a preloaded box at Staples, this install and configure from scratch stuff with windows is just too damn painful...) -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 4:26 AM, David C. Rankin
(P.S. Next time I'm just buying a preloaded box at Staples, this install and configure from scratch stuff with windows is just too damn painful...)
Actually, that would net you Vista, since you can't get XP retail anymore expect by "upgrading" to Vista Business and then "Downgrading" to XP. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Larry Stotler wrote:
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 4:26 AM, David C. Rankin
(P.S. Next time I'm just buying a preloaded box at Staples, this install and configure from scratch stuff with windows is just too damn painful...)
Actually, that would net you Vista, since you can't get XP retail anymore expect by "upgrading" to Vista Business and then "Downgrading" to XP.
Greg, Larry, That's just depressing... -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
David C. Rankin schreef:
Larry Stotler wrote:
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 4:26 AM, David C. Rankin
(P.S. Next time I'm just buying a preloaded box at Staples, this install and configure from scratch stuff with windows is just too damn painful...)
Actually, that would net you Vista, since you can't get XP retail anymore expect by "upgrading" to Vista Business and then "Downgrading" to XP.
Greg, Larry,
That's just depressing...
Just tried Windows 7 Beta on eeepc and amd64bit, is about 3 times as quick as xp, and about 30 times as vista. Doesn't look bad at all, but its windows... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
* oddball
Just tried Windows 7 Beta on eeepc and amd64bit, is about 3 times as quick as xp, and about 30 times as vista. Doesn't look bad at all, but its windows...
And *would* be *ontopic* on opensuse-offtopic.opensuse.org PLEASE -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Mon, 2009-04-27 at 09:31 -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
And *would* be *ontopic* on opensuse-offtopic.opensuse.org
You really do need a chill pill man. -- Michael S. Dunsavage -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
* Michael S. Dunsavage
On Mon, 2009-04-27 at 09:31 -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
And *would* be *ontopic* on opensuse-offtopic.opensuse.org
You really do need a chill pill man.
Michelob, and you buy. Seriously, a list with the amount of traffic here needs to *stay* ontopic, AND there was a list created *expecially* for the off-topic traffic. I'm guessing it's intended purpose was just that, but again, just a guess. -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Michael S. Dunsavage
[04-27-09 09:44]: On Mon, 2009-04-27 at 09:31 -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
And *would* be *ontopic* on opensuse-offtopic.opensuse.org
You really do need a chill pill man.
Michelob, and you buy.
Seriously, a list with the amount of traffic here needs to *stay* ontopic, AND there was a list created *expecially* for the off-topic traffic. I'm guessing it's intended purpose was just that, but again, just a guess.
AND how does one know that the OT list and this list have the same recipients ? Maybe, he needs to include someone on this list, And not knowing if that person is on the OT list. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
* Duaine & Laura Hechler
AND how does one know that the OT list and this list have the same recipients ?
WHO cares?
Maybe, he needs to include someone on this list,
He doesn't have access to pm?
And not knowing if that person is on the OT list.
again, pm or "who cares". -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Duaine & Laura Hechler
[04-27-09 11:11]: AND how does one know that the OT list and this list have the same recipients ?
WHO cares?
Maybe, he needs to include someone on this list,
He doesn't have access to pm?
And not knowing if that person is on the OT list.
again, pm or "who cares".
What's "pm" ? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Mon, 2009-04-27 at 10:21 -0500, Duaine & Laura Hechler wrote:
What's "pm" ?
Private Message -- Michael S. Dunsavage -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
* Duaine & Laura Hechler
What's "pm" ?
Private mail, and *please* do not send duplicate mail. I read the list or this conversation would nto be happening. -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Mon, 2009-04-27 at 10:10 -0500, Duaine & Laura Hechler wrote:
Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Michael S. Dunsavage
[04-27-09 09:44]: On Mon, 2009-04-27 at 09:31 -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
And *would* be *ontopic* on opensuse-offtopic.opensuse.org
You really do need a chill pill man.
Michelob, and you buy.
Seriously, a list with the amount of traffic here needs to *stay* ontopic, AND there was a list created *expecially* for the off-topic traffic. I'm guessing it's intended purpose was just that, but again, just a guess.
Patrick does have a point, this thread went OT quite a while ago, and resurrecting it is just adding noise over signal. There are ppl doing this list on DIAL UP, and we're wasting their time ranging all over OT and Back.
AND how does one know that the OT list and this list have the same recipients ?
One asks the list managers of course.
Maybe, he needs to include someone on this list,
And not knowing if that person is on the OT list.
May he not then e-mail them directly and just leave the list out of it? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Mon, 2009-04-27 at 11:06 -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
Michelob, and you buy.
Well that makes me glad I switch to Miller -- Michael S. Dunsavage -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Michael S. Dunsavage wrote:
On Mon, 2009-04-27 at 11:06 -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
Michelob, and you buy.
Well that makes me glad I switch to Miller
After all of this, I'm ready for a Long Island Tea ! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Mon, 2009-04-27 at 11:36 -0400, Michael S. Dunsavage wrote:
On Mon, 2009-04-27 at 11:06 -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
Michelob, and you buy.
Well that makes me glad I switch to Miller
Does Fred know? <gdr> -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Michael S. Dunsavage
[04-27-09 09:44]: On Mon, 2009-04-27 at 09:31 -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
And *would* be *ontopic* on opensuse-offtopic.opensuse.org
You really do need a chill pill man.
Michelob, and you buy.
Seriously, a list with the amount of traffic here needs to *stay* ontopic, AND there was a list created *expecially* for the off-topic traffic. I'm guessing it's intended purpose was just that, but again, just a guess.
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A list with this amount of traffic would have less if you took the pill. I think this report is useful, even if OT--I happen to be stuck with XP while I try to find out what's wrong with my Linux. If they've actually fixed Windows, it's a blessing for all. --doug -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* oddball
[04-27-09 08:45]: Just tried Windows 7 Beta on eeepc and amd64bit, is about 3 times as quick as xp, and about 30 times as vista. Doesn't look bad at all, but its windows...
And *would* be *ontopic* on opensuse-offtopic.opensuse.org
PLEASE
OH, here we go again the OT POLICE ! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 27 April 2009 10:05:42 am Duaine & Laura Hechler wrote:
OH, here we go again the OT POLICE
What's wrong with that, to tell when something doesn't belong here. There is 1500 people subscribed to this list and 220 to offtopic. Anything that is not openSUSE first line technical help, on this list means harassment of 1500 people, that did not subscribe and allocated resources (time and bandwidth) to receive comp.misc.other messages. Patrick is just their voice, and calling him OT police is flat insult to majority. On the other hand 220 subscribers of opensuse-offtopic are there to hear almost anything. I probably have to repeat that old forums.novell.com had the largest traffic in a part of forum designated for chat, because almost everyone was subscribed to his particular area of technical interest *and* chat. And, should I say, that nobody complained on warnings when thread went astray and someone warned about that. Discussion will continue in the chat area, and that's all. IMHO, that should happen here too, instead of lengthy discussions why offtopic should be allowed here (or anywhere else). We all have need to say something that is not in any way related to the any of the lists, and that is offtopic ML for. If some people are lazy to spend 3 minutes to subscribe to offtopic list, why other 1500 should bear with their need to post off topic stuff without saying a word. -- Regards, Rajko http://news.opensuse.org/category/people-of-opensuse/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Fri, 2009-04-17 at 03:26 -0500, David C. Rankin wrote:
Listmates,
Had to share this somewhat comical but painfully fun event. Long ago I retired my mandrake 7.2 (odyssey) server and the box had gone through a number of changes since I yanked the 40G IBM Deskstar drive out of it after (??) 4 years of continual service. The network card was new, the video card was new, but despite the changes, when I put the drive back into the box - 7.2 fired right up! Remember linuxconf? Remember when you were not even presented with a list of potential modules to load, but instead had to look in /lib/modules/<kernel> just to find something that looked close like the 3c90x.ko module to get a 3c950 card running? Recall the old drakes - XFdrake, menudrake, etc.? Man what a trip down memory lane and talk about cobweb filled memories.
The entire ordeal was prompted by a new lady that I hired today needing a box put together on the quick. I wasn't going to sacrifice the raid array in the box or the spare 250G drive in there that I still had not had time to parse through to make sure I wasn't throwing anything important away. Thus, the old 40G was enlisted to pull another tour of duty, and... for the first time in its 8 year life, it was spoon fed -- windows.... yuk!
So we bid a fair adieu to mandy 7.2, and 12 hours later had a fully updated XP install, complete with a slew of the little utilities I can't live without (fileMenuTools, FMview, mysql gui tools, etc...) and topped off with a full MS Office, OpenOffice, Gimp, PaintShop Pro, and imagemagick install with all updates through SP3 to current installed. (What a painful process)
The more you have to go back a tinker with windows, the more you appreciate the elegance of Linux and the distribution Novell has put together. The trip down memory lane with mandy 7.2 and KDE 2 also showed just how far KDE3 had come since the early days. We can only hope that KDE4 can achieve as much.
(P.S. Next time I'm just buying a preloaded box at Staples, this install and configure from scratch stuff with windows is just too damn painful...)
Seeing as you have killer skills with openSuSE, I'm kinda wondering why you did the 'doze. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sat, 2009-04-18 at 01:50 -0400, Mike McMullin wrote:
Seeing as you have killer skills with openSuSE, I'm kinda wondering why you did the 'doze.
Why can't we all take the higher ground and stop using the the M$ for Microsoft and Windoze for Windows? -- Michael S. Dunsavage -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 18 April 2009 01:19:54 am Michael S. Dunsavage wrote:
On Sat, 2009-04-18 at 01:50 -0400, Mike McMullin wrote:
Seeing as you have killer skills with openSuSE, I'm kinda wondering why you did the 'doze.
Why can't we all take the higher ground and stop using the the M$ for Microsoft and Windoze for Windows?
It is about the choice Michael :-) I don't want to advertise them here, but there is "another OS", plain "MS" etc, instead. -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sat, 2009-04-18 at 01:48 -0500, Rajko M. wrote:
On Saturday 18 April 2009 01:19:54 am Michael S. Dunsavage wrote:
On Sat, 2009-04-18 at 01:50 -0400, Mike McMullin wrote:
Seeing as you have killer skills with openSuSE, I'm kinda wondering why you did the 'doze.
Why can't we all take the higher ground and stop using the the M$ for Microsoft and Windoze for Windows?
It is about the choice Michael :-)
I don't want to advertise them here, but there is "another OS", plain "MS" etc, instead.
And here I thought the op was making a joke about someone having nodded off. ;) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 2009/04/18 02:19 (GMT-0400) Michael S. Dunsavage composed:
On Sat, 2009-04-18 at 01:50 -0400, Mike McMullin wrote:
Seeing as you have killer skills with openSuSE, I'm kinda wondering why you did the 'doze.
Why can't we all take the higher ground and stop using the the M$ for Microsoft and Windoze for Windows?
Maybe because the convicted felon never got the punishment it deserves? As an aside, maybe someone can explain why thread subjects like this get broken by apps like Evolution by replacing long subject line spaces with other chars? Dunsavage's post had this happen between "sitting on" & "a shelf", which I restored in this reply. -- "He who works his land will have abundant food, but the one who chases fantasies will have his fill of poverty." Proverbs 28:19 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sat, 2009-04-18 at 04:11 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
Dunsavage's post had this happen between "sitting on" & "a shelf", which I restored in this reply.
Oh yeah? Except that was nowhere in my post. My original post was " >> Seeing as you have killer skills with openSuSE, I'm kinda wondering
why you did the 'doze.
Why can't we all take the higher ground and stop using the the M$ for Microsoft and Windoze for Windows? " I snipped the rest. So where exactly did you restore it? -- Michael S. Dunsavage -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sat, 2009-04-18 at 08:13 -0400, Michael S. Dunsavage wrote:
Why can't we all take the higher ground and stop using the the M$ for Microsoft and Windoze for Windows?
Heh. I read to fast. The subject line. Sorry. -- Michael S. Dunsavage -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Mike McMullin wrote:
Seeing as you have killer skills with openSuSE, I'm kinda wondering why you did the 'doze.
I did the doze because the box was going to the office for the new secretary I hired and out of all of the new things she will be learning, I thought I wouldn't force the OS change on her --- just yet. But... it's coming... -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sat, 2009-04-18 at 21:34 -0500, David C. Rankin wrote:
Mike McMullin wrote:
Seeing as you have killer skills with openSuSE, I'm kinda wondering why you did the 'doze.
I did the doze because the box was going to the office for the new secretary I hired and out of all of the new things she will be learning, I thought I wouldn't force the OS change on her --- just yet. But... it's coming...
Logical, as I read the software install list the only part that jumped up was PhotoShop. I've read reports that it works fairly well under wine, but it hasn't on my daughters system as of yet. Mikw -- Hoping it all works out well -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Mike McMullin wrote:
On Sat, 2009-04-18 at 21:34 -0500, David C. Rankin wrote:
Mike McMullin wrote:
Seeing as you have killer skills with openSuSE, I'm kinda wondering why you did the 'doze.
I did the doze because the box was going to the office for the new secretary I hired and out of all of the new things she will be learning, I thought I wouldn't force the OS change on her --- just yet. But... it's coming...
Logical, as I read the software install list the only part that jumped up was PhotoShop. I've read reports that it works fairly well under wine, but it hasn't on my daughters system as of yet.
Mikw -- Hoping it all works out well
I don't know when it happened, but I've gotten to where I prefer the gimp to photoshop/paintshop for all but vector graphics. I used to suck at raster graphics. Coming from an engineering background, I had do use for them. But in the normal world, just about everything is a raster (photos, web page stuff, etc.) and I really like the gimp now. It was an awkward relationship at first, but after the 200th trip to the manual, I'm starting to get the hang of it;-) -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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D. McGarrett
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David C. Rankin
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Duaine & Laura Hechler
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Felix Miata
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Larry Stotler
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Michael S. Dunsavage
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Mike McMullin
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oddball
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Patrick Shanahan
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Rajko M.