Printing in reverse order.
Hi, I have a HP DeskJet 5940 printer, running on cups under SUSE 10.0. I wanted to correct the printing order generally for all printing jobs, because would be not reasonable to touch all the client machines, user accounts, preferred programs, etc. I went for howtos and faqs and found a tipp for CUPS, saying that I should modify a single line in the .ppd file of my printer and changing it to *DefaultOutputOrder: "reverse" I use the hpijs driver directly from the vendor as I know and downloaded the generated .ppd from http://www.linux-printing.org , which really doesn't have the equivalent for the above line. So I just inserted that line and also tried the *DefaultOutputOrder: Reverse variant without any success. Do you have an idea please, what I did wrong or where in the .ppd I should insert this line?! The absence of this line would suggest that my printer/software can't handle preci- sely this function? Most of my users use kprinter, where its possible to change to reverse ordered printing, but the checkbox doesn't keep it state and that mark is not "sticky". Alternatively it would give me a way to solve this to make kprinter remember this setting, but probably recompiling would be needed. Right?! Thank you for any advices; this time google was really not my friend, Pelibali
Hello, On Feb 24 20:07 pelibali wrote (shortened):
I have a HP DeskJet 5940 printer, running on cups under SUSE 10.0. I wanted to correct the printing order generally for all printing jobs, because would be not reasonable to touch all the client machines, user accounts, preferred programs, etc.
Read the "CUPS Software Users Manual", in particular the section "Document Options". Furthermore see for example http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Print_Settings_with_CUPS
I went for howtos and faqs and found a tipp for CUPS, saying that I should modify a single line in the .ppd file of my printer and changing it to *DefaultOutputOrder: "reverse"
I use the hpijs driver directly from the vendor as I know and downloaded the generated .ppd from http://www.linux-printing.org , which really doesn't have the equivalent for the above line. So I just inserted that line and also tried the *DefaultOutputOrder: Reverse
Read the documentation to get an understanding how all the parts work together before following random "tips" to hack whatever stuff into a PPD file. For example read http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:CUPS_in_a_Nutshell to see what a PPD file is and how it works. Kind Regards Johannes Meixner -- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstrasse 5 Mail: jsmeix@suse.de 90409 Nuernberg, Germany WWW: http://www.suse.de/
Johannes, On Mon, 27 Feb 2006 12:10:53 +0100 (CET) Johannes Meixner <.> wrote: <...>
I went for howtos and faqs and found a tipp for CUPS, saying that I should modify a single line in the .ppd file of my printer and changing it to *DefaultOutputOrder: "reverse"
I use the hpijs driver directly from the vendor as I know and downloaded the generated .ppd from http://www.linux-printing.org , which really doesn't have the equivalent for the above line. So I just inserted that line and also tried the *DefaultOutputOrder: Reverse
Read the documentation to get an understanding how all the parts work together before following random "tips" to hack whatever stuff into a PPD file. For example read http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:CUPS_in_a_Nutshell to see what a PPD file is and how it works.
(This is not a flame-starting e-mail.) My personal opinion is that it's OK and even _needed_ that everyone planning to ask anything on the list first does some research her/ himself and should consider to mail the broader audience of the list in case of unsuccessful attempts... That's how I found http://www.linuxprinting.org/cups-faq.html#q_1_7 which site I would never call a "random tip"! Here likely my understanding was the limiting factor, not the parti- cular FAQ or site itself. Anyway thanks for your pointers, printed the suggested pages. Probably still my stupidity, but after one reading couldn't find the answer to my original question on the listed page, HOW to get our DeskJet printing in reverse order... Regards, Pelibali
Hello, On Feb 28 20:08 pelibali wrote (shortened):
Johannes Meixner <.> wrote:
pelibali wrote (shortened):
I went for howtos and faqs and found a tipp for CUPS, saying that I should modify a single line in the .ppd file ... Read the documentation to get an understanding how all the parts work together before following random "tips" to hack whatever stuff into a PPD file. ... That's how I found http://www.linuxprinting.org/cups-faq.html#q_1_7 which site I would never call a "random tip"!
Right! Now you told us the exact URL so that we can also see what you have used and this makes the big difference. Nevertheless: Note that LinuxPrinting.org pages are often open for anyone to add any information - i.e. even if LinuxPrinting.org is THE source of information regarding printing under Linux, there is no guarantee that everything there is correct. Kind Regards Johannes Meixner -- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstrasse 5 Mail: jsmeix@suse.de 90409 Nuernberg, Germany WWW: http://www.suse.de/
On Mon, 27 Feb 2006 12:10:53 +0100 (CET) Johannes Meixner <.> wrote:
Hello,
On Feb 24 20:07 pelibali wrote (shortened):
I have a HP DeskJet 5940 printer, running on cups under SUSE 10.0. I wanted to correct the printing order generally for all printing jobs, because would be not reasonable to touch all the client machines, user accounts, preferred programs, etc.
Read the "CUPS Software Users Manual", in particular the section "Document Options".
Furthermore see for example http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Print_Settings_with_CUPS
I stopped to try again and again to solve this problem, because simply couldn't :( So the general solution was still not found; the only trick I could do was to add an extra filter for each user under kprinter in order to get all of their printing jobs reversed... I wanted to save this work for myself, but really couldn't find an easier way! If you know that the configuration settings I originally wanted to do are likely impossible, please tell me so, but if you would point me to the good direction would be still great :) Regards, Pelibali
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