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Kevanf1

10 May 2006 10 May '06

09:29

On 10/05/06, scsijon wrote:

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At 05:10 AM 10/05/2006, lerninlinux@comcast.net wrote:

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I was testing out a new install of Mplayer the other night, with the movie Antitrust. I heard the line in the movie, where Tim Robbin's character asks "how many people will be altruistic and how many will take your ideas and make a billion dollars?", and had to laugh. I heard about the hardware vouchers and such from the antitrust trials, and wondered if anyone knew of any Microsoft donated or subsidized hardware, that had been converted to Linux or things like the Linux k12 terminal server project? Seems like it would be a good way to use their fud and donations.

Randal

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since a decent sized portion of their old stuff donated in australia went to China........

i wonder what o/s is on it now hmmmmmmm

If there really is anybody clever at MS then they would turn around and use the hardware to their own advantage. This is what we need to be wary off. They can say, "look at all this lovely hardware that we, Microsoft, have donated". The press will not hear the cries of the people using it saying, "yes, but we run Linux on it". -- ============================================== I am only human, please forgive me if I make a mistake it is not deliberate. ============================================== PLEASE DON'T drink and drive it's not clever, it's just stupid. Kevan Farmer Linux user #373362 Cheslyn Hay Staffordshire WS6 7HR

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Robert Cunningham

10 May 10 May

23:00

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Kevanf1 wrote:

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On 10/05/06, scsijon wrote:

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At 05:10 AM 10/05/2006, lerninlinux@comcast.net wrote:

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I was testing out a new install of Mplayer the other night, with the movie Antitrust. I heard the line in the movie, where Tim Robbin's character asks "how many people will be altruistic and how many will take your ideas and make a billion dollars?", and had to laugh. I heard about the hardware vouchers and such from the antitrust trials, and wondered if anyone knew of any Microsoft donated or subsidized hardware, that had been converted to Linux or things like the Linux k12 terminal server project? Seems like it would be a good way to use their fud and donations.

Randal

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since a decent sized portion of their old stuff donated in australia went to China........

i wonder what o/s is on it now hmmmmmmm

If there really is anybody clever at MS then they would turn around and use the hardware to their own advantage. This is what we need to be wary off. They can say, "look at all this lovely hardware that we, Microsoft, have donated". The press will not hear the cries of the people using it saying, "yes, but we run Linux on it".

-- ============================================== I am only human, please forgive me if I make a mistake it is not deliberate. ============================================== PLEASE DON'T drink and drive it's not clever, it's just stupid.

Kevan Farmer

Linux user #373362

Cheslyn Hay Staffordshire WS6 7HR

Well I can tell you I have a Microsoft thumb-wheel trackball that works well in windows, but I have given up on getting it to work in Linux, it simply needs something in windows to work. . I ended using there more expensive trackball-explorer. I know it is a M$ product, but I have serious Carpal-Tunnel syndrome and it is the only thing I can use without giving up computer use. -- Robert Cunningham Sr. Physics Laboratory Coordinator /RSO Kettering University Flint, Michigan 48504 (810) 762-7935 rcunnig@kettering.edu

Kevanf1

11 May 11 May

10:38

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On 11/05/06, Robert Cunningham wrote:

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Well I can tell you I have a Microsoft thumb-wheel trackball that works well in windows, but I have given up on getting it to work in Linux, it simply needs something in windows to work. . I ended using there more expensive trackball-explorer. I know it is a M$ product, but I have serious Carpal-Tunnel syndrome and it is the only thing I can use without giving up computer use.

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It may be unpalatable to some but I have always found Microsoft branded hardware to be very good. I've got one of the original Explorer mice from 10 years ago still working. It's had a lot of use too. Whereas a Logitech that my wife bought me for Xmas a couple of years has already died. Logitech were less than helpful when I asked for help from them too. -- ============================================== I am only human, please forgive me if I make a mistake it is not deliberate. ============================================== PLEASE DON'T drink and drive it's not clever, it's just stupid. Kevan Farmer Linux user #373362 Cheslyn Hay Staffordshire WS6 7HR

Matthew Stringer

11:33

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On Thursday 11 May 2006 11:38, Kevanf1 wrote:

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It may be unpalatable to some but I have always found Microsoft branded hardware to be very good.

Agreed, the Xbox is ace! Matthew

Kevanf1

11:37

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On 11/05/06, Matthew Stringer wrote:

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On Thursday 11 May 2006 11:38, Kevanf1 wrote:

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It may be unpalatable to some but I have always found Microsoft branded hardware to be very good.

Agreed, the Xbox is ace!

Matthew

I have zero experience of the X Box I'm afraid. My kids have a PS2 which I have never ever used :-) I have used a lot of MS keyboards and mice over the last 10 yrs though. Most have been at the uni I worked at and had a lot of use and rarely got cleaned; except by myself :-/ -- ============================================== I am only human, please forgive me if I make a mistake it is not deliberate. ============================================== PLEASE DON'T drink and drive it's not clever, it's just stupid. Kevan Farmer Linux user #373362 Cheslyn Hay Staffordshire WS6 7HR

James Knott

23:02

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Matthew Stringer wrote:

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On Thursday 11 May 2006 11:38, Kevanf1 wrote:

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It may be unpalatable to some but I have always found Microsoft branded hardware to be very good.

Agreed, the Xbox is ace!

And runs NT4! The reason for that, is it's the last version of Windows, that runs on the PowerPC.

Ken Schneider

12:32

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On Thu, 2006-05-11 at 11:38 +0100, Kevanf1 wrote:

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On 11/05/06, Robert Cunningham wrote:

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Well I can tell you I have a Microsoft thumb-wheel trackball that works well in windows, but I have given up on getting it to work in Linux, it simply needs something in windows to work. . I ended using there more expensive trackball-explorer. I know it is a M$ product, but I have serious Carpal-Tunnel syndrome and it is the only thing I can use without giving up computer use.

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It may be unpalatable to some but I have always found Microsoft branded hardware to be very good. I've got one of the original Explorer mice from 10 years ago still working. It's had a lot of use too. Whereas a Logitech that my wife bought me for Xmas a couple of years has already died. Logitech were less than helpful when I asked for help from them too.

I don't find it unpalatable, I just don't support a company that has been convicted of suppressing competition in an illegal manner. -- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998

Bob S

12 May 12 May

05:39

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On Thursday 11 May 2006 08:32, Ken Schneider wrote:

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It may be unpalatable to some but I have always found Microsoft branded hardware to be very good. I've got one of the original Explorer mice from 10 years ago still working. It's had a lot of use too. Whereas a Logitech that my wife bought me for Xmas a couple of years has already died. Logitech were less than helpful when I asked for help from them too.

I don't find it unpalatable, I just don't support a company that has been convicted of suppressing competition in an illegal manner.

Good for you Ken, My thoughts exactly. Bob S.

James Watkins

15:35

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Kevanf1 wrote:

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It may be unpalatable to some but I have always found Microsoft branded hardware to be very good. I've got one of the original Explorer mice from 10 years ago still working. It's had a lot of use too. Whereas a Logitech that my wife bought me for Xmas a couple of years has already died. Logitech were less than helpful when I asked for help from them too.

Fair point, but have you ever suffered from the 'phantom double-click'? Almost every Microsoft optical mouse I've had has gone this way in the end. Did I just get a dodgy batch or have other people found this? James.

Kevanf1

15:42

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On 12/05/06, James Watkins wrote:

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Kevanf1 wrote:

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It may be unpalatable to some but I have always found Microsoft branded hardware to be very good. I've got one of the original Explorer mice from 10 years ago still working. It's had a lot of use too. Whereas a Logitech that my wife bought me for Xmas a couple of years has already died. Logitech were less than helpful when I asked for help from them too.

Fair point, but have you ever suffered from the 'phantom double-click'? Almost every Microsoft optical mouse I've had has gone this way in the end. Did I just get a dodgy batch or have other people found this?

James.

Ah, I haven't tried a MS optical mouse. I haven't seen that behaviour in the ones I do have though. These are Logitech and some that are in a notebook add ons pack - don't know who makes them but I've got about 5 or 6 knocking around. -- ============================================== I am only human, please forgive me if I make a mistake it is not deliberate. ============================================== PLEASE DON'T drink and drive it's not clever, it's just stupid. Kevan Farmer Linux user #373362 Cheslyn Hay Staffordshire WS6 7HR

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