Just a note that apper with 12.3 seems much better behaved. I've left it installed and have used it a few times to pull down updates in the last couple weeks. In 12.2 and before, I would have got mad at it by now and removed it. People that haven't used it in a while may want to give it a chance again. Greg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org