-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I just noticed there are two version of java in SuSE 9.3. Why? I have the 1_4_2 version installed, ¿should I install 1_5 instead? Also, the new version has other packages, like java-1_5_0-sun-alsa and java-1_5_0-sun-jdbc, that do not exist in the previous version. The description for all rpms is exactly the same, so I can't know what they are for. Should I install all of them? Nice "descriptions"... :-( - -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFCzXcPtTMYHG2NR9URAsERAJ47h1MsQEXK4qpPOGohU3+V2z0mxQCggX3L BXtRVdHf+PqkWhjs4Zzy8vI= =bYNA -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On 7/7/05, Carlos E. R. wrote:
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Hi,
I just noticed there are two version of java in SuSE 9.3. Why? I have the 1_4_2 version installed, ¿should I install 1_5 instead?
Also, the new version has other packages, like java-1_5_0-sun-alsa and java-1_5_0-sun-jdbc, that do not exist in the previous version. The description for all rpms is exactly the same, so I can't know what they are for.
Should I install all of them?
Nice "descriptions"... :-(
- -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson
If you use Java 1.4.2, you may want to know that there is a potentially a major security hole in it. http://www.networkworld.com/news/2005/061505-sun-java.html As of 3 weeks ago, Sun was recommending everyone upgrade to Java 1.5 to address the issue. I don't know if 1.4.2 patches came out or not. Greg -- Greg Freemyer The Norcross Group Forensics for the 21st Century
Greg Freemyer wrote:
If you use Java 1.4.2, you may want to know that there is a potentially a major security hole in it.
http://www.networkworld.com/news/2005/061505-sun-java.html
As of 3 weeks ago, Sun was recommending everyone upgrade to Java 1.5 to address the issue. I don't know if 1.4.2 patches came out or not.
So, we should remove 1.4.2 and install 1.5?
On 7/7/05, James Knott <james.knott@rogers.com> wrote:
Greg Freemyer wrote:
If you use Java 1.4.2, you may want to know that there is a potentially a major security hole in it.
http://www.networkworld.com/news/2005/061505-sun-java.html
As of 3 weeks ago, Sun was recommending everyone upgrade to Java 1.5 to address the issue. I don't know if 1.4.2 patches came out or not.
So, we should remove 1.4.2 and install 1.5?
I just checked and JRE 1.4.2_08 has the security issue resolved. Based on Mark Gray's e-mail it appears that SuSE has the corresponding patch in its latest 1.4.2 JRE. Greg -- Greg Freemyer The Norcross Group Forensics for the 21st Century
Greg Freemyer wrote:
On 7/7/05, James Knott <james.knott@rogers.com> wrote:
Greg Freemyer wrote:
If you use Java 1.4.2, you may want to know that there is a potentially a major security hole in it.
http://www.networkworld.com/news/2005/061505-sun-java.html
As of 3 weeks ago, Sun was recommending everyone upgrade to Java 1.5 to address the issue. I don't know if 1.4.2 patches came out or not. So, we should remove 1.4.2 and install 1.5?
I just checked and JRE 1.4.2_08 has the security issue resolved.
Based on Mark Gray's e-mail it appears that SuSE has the corresponding patch in its latest 1.4.2 JRE.
I ran an online update a couple of days ago, so I should be OK then.
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Thursday 2005-07-07 at 17:15 -0400, Greg Freemyer wrote:
So, we should remove 1.4.2 and install 1.5?
I just checked and JRE 1.4.2_08 has the security issue resolved.
I know, it was comented in the security list.
Based on Mark Gray's e-mail it appears that SuSE has the corresponding patch in its latest 1.4.2 JRE.
But, why are there two versions on the DVDs? When should we use one or the other? - -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFCzcpXtTMYHG2NR9URAtHxAKCDmTScEd42jLBjbIfsnZFEV1E9VgCgiO/S ZZ+gSHDCdIlTml3QYooqgrw= =8ggm -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Carlos E. R. wrote:
But, why are there two versions on the DVDs? When should we use one or the other?
http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/compatibility.html This details incompatibilities between 1.4.2 and 1.5.0 (which, btw, Sun seems to be calling 5.0). For the most part, they don't seem to be of much significance except in circumstantces that perhaps won't concern most users. A lot of it details specific uses that will have to be recoded, or else java recompilation is necessary with strict 1.4.2 compatibility enabled.. For most people, these incompatibilities mean that a few applications, coded for 1.4.x and using specific features where incompatibility exists, will probably fail in specific, and perhaps uncommon, instances with 1.5. For these, you would need to install 1.4.2, unless you wanted to recompile 1.5. OTOH, there may be a few applications which have been rewritten for java 1.5 compatibility, and these will probably fail with 1.4.2. For these, you would need to install 1.5.0. Oh, and I must not forget to mention the significant package renaming ( :-| ). J2SDK, for example, now becomes JSDK.
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Friday 2005-07-08 at 11:32 -0600, Darryl Gregorash wrote:
This details incompatibilities between 1.4.2 and 1.5.0 (which, btw, Sun seems to be calling 5.0). For the most part, they don't seem to be of much ... For most people, these incompatibilities mean that a few applications, coded for 1.4.x and using specific features where incompatibility exists, will probably fail in specific, and perhaps uncommon, instances with 1.5. For
Ah, I see. Makes sense. - -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFCzwjCtTMYHG2NR9URAk+XAKCKgRrD2vUUUduOK3QiQ+rftBa1aQCfQUyd 2IRuw1VOOz7jpavMThdLq8U= =Sxlj -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Carlos E. R. wrote:
I just noticed there are two version of java in SuSE 9.3. Why? I have the 1_4_2 version installed, ¿should I install 1_5 instead?
I believe Sun recommends upgrading. Whatever version I have currently installed in SuSE 9.0, obtained directly from Sun, fails Sun's own javascript tests (I forget the URL they provide for that).
Also, the new version has other packages, like java-1_5_0-sun-alsa and java-1_5_0-sun-jdbc, that do not exist in the previous version. The description for all rpms is exactly the same, so I can't know what they are for.
Refer to the corresponding 1.4.2 packages; their package titles should provide sufficient description to enable you to choose the 1.5 packages you want/need. You could select everything else that you want to install, then go back and see which Java packages have been automatically selected because of dependencies. Then decide if you want 1.4 or 1.5, and make any necessary adjustments. If you do any java development, you'll need to install the SDK as well. In the packages Sun provides, the SDK does contain the runtime environment as well, but I do not know about these packages SuSE has prepared. You would need to check the dependencies for that.
On Thursday 07 July 2005 21:45, Darryl Gregorash wrote:
I believe Sun recommends upgrading. Whatever version I have currently installed in SuSE 9.0, obtained directly from Sun, fails Sun's own javascript tests (I forget the URL they provide for that).
What does that mean? Java has nothing to do with javascript, other than a similarity in name. Java is from Sun, javascript is from netscape. They are not related, and use nothing from each other.
Anders Johansson wrote:
On Thursday 07 July 2005 21:45, Darryl Gregorash wrote:
I believe Sun recommends upgrading. Whatever version I have currently installed in SuSE 9.0, obtained directly from Sun, fails Sun's own javascript tests (I forget the URL they provide for that).
What does that mean? Java has nothing to do with javascript, other than a similarity in name. Java is from Sun, javascript is from netscape. They are not related, and use nothing from each other.
All I know is one website referred me to a URL on java.sun.com for some compatibility test. This was after a javascript failed to execute properly. The test on Sun reported failure, and the recommendation was to upgrade the JRE to 1.5.
On Friday 08 July 2005 03:07, Darryl Gregorash wrote:
Anders Johansson wrote:
On Thursday 07 July 2005 21:45, Darryl Gregorash wrote:
I believe Sun recommends upgrading. Whatever version I have currently installed in SuSE 9.0, obtained directly from Sun, fails Sun's own javascript tests (I forget the URL they provide for that).
What does that mean? Java has nothing to do with javascript, other than a similarity in name. Java is from Sun, javascript is from netscape. They are not related, and use nothing from each other.
All I know is one website referred me to a URL on java.sun.com for some compatibility test. This was after a javascript failed to execute properly. The test on Sun reported failure, and the recommendation was to upgrade the JRE to 1.5.
I would hazard a guess that the piece of javascript was trying to load a java applet, and that that loading failed. Javascript itself has nothing whatever to do with java and will be totally unaffected by any upgrade of your jvm
Anders Johansson wrote:
I would hazard a guess that the piece of javascript was trying to load a java applet, and that that loading failed. Javascript itself has nothing whatever to do with java and will be totally unaffected by any upgrade of your jvm
Thanks for clarifying this. Something still failed Sun's compatibility test, and I have to guess now it must have been java itself. Pretty good for a package that came from Sun.
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Thursday 2005-07-07 at 13:45 -0600, Darryl Gregorash wrote:
I believe Sun recommends upgrading. Whatever version I have currently installed in SuSE 9.0, obtained directly from Sun, fails Sun's own javascript tests (I forget the URL they provide for that).
The problem that might affect me is that some sites use javascript code that seems to work only with IE. But that's some thing I was not asking about just now :-)
Also, the new version has other packages, like java-1_5_0-sun-alsa and java-1_5_0-sun-jdbc, that do not exist in the previous version. The description for all rpms is exactly the same, so I can't know what they are for.
Refer to the corresponding 1.4.2 packages; their package titles should provide sufficient description to enable you to choose the 1.5 packages you want/need.
Ah!... it seems that the -jdbc-1_4_2 is on a different group than the 1_5_0 version, so i didn't find it. And yes, that one has a description. Same goes for the -alsa one. Mmm... there are two packages that require the old version, jdictionary y jedit. I'll try to see if they work anyway.
You could select everything else that you want to install, then go back and see which Java packages have been automatically selected because of dependencies. Then decide if you want 1.4 or 1.5, and make any necessary adjustments.
The problem is deciding what is needed. I'm thinking that java-jdbc («This package contains the JDBC/ODBC bridge driver for java-1.4.2-sun.») might be needed for OO database support, that I haven't managed to get working.
If you do any java development, you'll need to install the SDK as well.
No, I don't do java development. - -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFCzblCtTMYHG2NR9URAjioAJ4pZsQMFTMw3XT502buVPSEMbcV8QCcCLgB VvgHSKDcMiIB/lAaW/QEAlE= =N9wo -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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Anders Johansson
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Carlos E. R.
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Darryl Gregorash
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Greg Freemyer
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James Knott