On Friday 07 April 2006 10:19, wmeler wrote:

Sending failed: Timeout on server smtp.gmail.com The message will stay in the 'outbox' folder until you either fix the problem (e.g. a broken address) or remove the message from the 'outbox' folder. The following transport protocol was used:wmeler@gmail.com

that's the error i'm getting

On 4/7/06, wmeler wrote:

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I managed to get kmail to download my gmail emails just fine, but it cannot send.

Can someone please give me the proper config info. ? Could this be because of my ISP (earthlink) blocking me? How would I know? Any other ideas?

You will probably find that you have to use your ISP's transport service to send the email although you can receive via Gmail. Ian

* nicola .:kOoLiNuS:. losito [04-07-06 11:53]:

you HAVE to use Gmail's smtp server to send any mail with $user@gmail.com in from value. if not you'll simply receive an error, at least according to my experiences ....

no, you must run your own mail server and, maybe, relay thru your isp. I use gmail posting address, but do *not* use gmail's smtp server :^). -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 try this Wmeler. Open Konsole, type in "telnet smtp.gmail.com 587" without the quotes. See if it connects, if it does u will see something like this Trying 64.233.185.109... Connected to smtp.gmail.com. Escape character is '^]'. 220 mx.gmail.com ESMTP 6sm1647118wrh that means it is able to connect but theres some configuration issue. u can come out of that by press ctrl and ']' if it doesnt that means ur ISP is blocking it HTH Arun wmeler wrote:

1) Thanks everyone! Still working this... 2) Did the error message I posted earlier (which I got from kmail) mean anything to anybody? Here it is again, just in case:

Sending failed: Timeout on server smtp.gmail.com The message will stay in the 'outbox' folder until you either fix the problem (e.g. a broken address) or remove the message from the 'outbox' folder. The following transport protocol was used: wmeler@gmail.com

That last line looks like the key to solving this problem, but I don't know what it means.

-- Cheers, wmeler

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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Heres how I set it up for my test Under Settings->configure Kmail->sending->add Name : <whatever u want it name it> Host : smtp.gmail.com Port : 587 Precommand: <leave empty> Check Server requires authentication Login: : <emailid>@gmail.com Password : <your password> Click on the security tab Select TLS and PLAIN, or you can click <check what my server supports> click ok and try it again. If this doesnt work, i would suggest you try it with another email client or another email client from behind another ISP. Arun wmeler wrote:

Arun, I saw something just like that. So does that mean it's clearly in how I've configured kmail?

Thanks, wmeler

On 4/7/06, Arun Mallikarjunan wrote: try this Wmeler. Open Konsole, type in "telnet smtp.gmail.com 587" without the quotes. See if it connects, if it does u will see something like this

Trying 64.233.185.109... Connected to smtp.gmail.com. Escape character is '^]'. 220 mx.gmail.com ESMTP 6sm1647118wrh

that means it is able to connect but theres some configuration issue. u can come out of that by press ctrl and ']'

if it doesnt that means ur ISP is blocking it

HTH Arun

wmeler wrote:

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1) Thanks everyone! Still working this... 2) Did the error message I posted earlier (which I got from kmail) mean anything to anybody? Here it is again, just in case:

Sending failed: Timeout on server smtp.gmail.com The message will stay in the 'outbox' folder until you either fix the problem (e.g. a broken address) or remove the message from the 'outbox' folder. The following transport protocol was used: wmeler@gmail.com

That last line looks like the key to solving this problem, but I don't know what it means.

-- Cheers, wmeler

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-- Cheers, wmeler

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Oops...that tom.reagan@gmail.com should read wmeler@gmail.com, accidentally screwed up my email and when I tried to fix it, cut/pasted the wrong email address for my friend...sorry...fixed below On 4/7/06, wmeler wrote:

Different ports give me different errors. By that, I mean that according to http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=13287 says to use either port 587 or 465. However I get different error messages for 465 vs. 587. I can't even tell which is closer to working, though it looks like 465 is better. Thoughts?

587's immediate error message: Sending failed: Your SMTP server does not support PLAIN. Choose a different authentication method. The server responded: "5.7.1 Credentials Rejected i20sm807304wxd"

The message will stay in the 'outbox' folder until you either fix the problem (e.g. a broken address) or remove the message from the 'outbox' folder. The following transport protocol was used: wmeler@gmail.com

465's message (after literally minutes of working):

Sending failed: Timeout on server smtp.gmail.com The message will stay in the 'outbox' folder until you either fix the problem (e.g. a broken address) or remove the message from the 'outbox' folder. The following transport protocol was used: wmeler@gmail.com

In deciding to check port 465 vs. port 587, I tried the telnet trick Arun told me earlier. Alas, both seem to be okay from what I see in telnet:

wmeler@linux:~> telnet smtp.gmail.com 587

Trying 64.233.185.109... Connected to smtp.gmail.com. Escape character is '^]'. 220 mx.gmail.com ESMTP 9sm616161wrl ^] telnet> quit Connection closed. wmeler@linux:~> telnet smtp.gmail.com 465

Trying 64.233.185.109... Connected to smtp.gmail.com. Escape character is '^]'. ^] telnet> quit Connection closed.

Thoughts? (I am going to put together an email with all of my outgoing mail settings in a moment). Just hoping somebody knows something about one of those two error messages.

-- Cheers, wmeler

-- Cheers, wmeler

thanks Arun for your continuing help...seems to work...kind of...in other words, i ran a bunch of tests and kmail gave me no errors...the scary thing is...i sent emails from one account to another...and only received 3 out of 15...ie. not working completely... (i turned off the firewall for a second to see if that mattered. it didn't seem to. same thing with messing with the outgoing mail section of the mail transport in yast. again, didn't seem to affect anything.) here's my .kmailrc file found in /home/wmeler/.kde/share/config/ in case you can see anything glaringly wrong...going to try the old reboot and pray method. : [$Version] update_info=kmail.upd:1,kmail.upd:4,kmail.upd:5,kmail.upd:6,kmail.upd:7,kmail.upd:8,kmail.upd:9,kmail.upd:3.1-update-identities,kmail.upd:3.1-use-identity-uoids,kmail.upd:3.1-new-mail-notification,kmail.upd:3.2-update-loop-on-goto-unread-settings,kmail.upd:3.1.4-dont-use-UOID-0-for-any-identity,kmail.upd:3.2-misc,kmail.upd:3.2-moves,kmail.upd:3.3-use-ID-for-accounts,kmail.upd:3.3-move-identities-to-own-file,kmail.upd:3.3-aegypten-kpgprc-to-kmailrc,kmail.upd:3.3-misc,kmail.upd:3.3b1-misc,kmail.upd:3.4,kmail.upd:3.4a,kmail.upd:3.4b,kmail.upd:3.4.1,kmail.upd:3.3-update-filter-rules [Account 1] Folder=wmeler@gmail : 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Serif,10,-1,5,50,0,0,0,0,0 quote3-font=Sans Serif,10,-1,5,50,0,0,0,0,0 [General] Default domain=127.0.0.1 accounts=2 beep-on-mail=false checkmail-startup=true customDateFormat= dateFormat=2 first-start=false folders=$HOME/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail previous-version=1.8.2 showAttachmentIcon=true showCryptoIcons=false showMessageSize=false transports=2 [Geometry] ColumnOrder=0 ColumnWidths=156 ConfigureDialogHeight=738 ConfigureDialogWidth=783 FolderList=long FolderPaneWidth=160 HeaderPaneHeight=570 HeaderPaneWidth=972 Identity Dialog size=482,448 MainWin=1138,851 ReaderPaneHeight=275 SortAscending=true SortColumn=0 folderTree=160 nestingPolicy=3 readerWindowMode=below [Internal] MsgDictSizeHint=0 PreviousNewFeaturesMD5=lwDASbusv7rDd0DHVB5rGA== [MDN] default-policy=3 not-send-when-encrypted=true quote-message=1 [Reader] AutoImportKeys=false MimeTreeLocation=bottom MimeTreeMode=smart RecycleQuoteColors=false attachment-strategy=smart defaultColors=true encoding= header-set-displayed=rich header-style=fancy htmlLoadExternal=false htmlMail=true showColorbar=true showSpamStatus=true useFixedFont=false [SearchDialog] DateWidth=120 FolderWidth=100 SearchWidgetHeight=505 SearchWidgetWidth=611 SenderWidth=120 SubjectWidth=150 [Startup] update-level=20 [Transport 1] auth=true authtype=PLAIN encryption=TLS host=smtp.gmail.com id=219102902 localHostname=127.0.0.1 name=steve.carpenter@gmail.com port=587 precommand= specifyHostname=false storepass=true user=steve.carpenter@gmail.com [Transport 2] auth=true authtype=PLAIN encryption=TLS host=smtp.gmail.com id=1677736904 localHostname=127.0.0.1 name=wmeler@gmail.com port=587 precommand= specifyHostname=false storepass=true type=smtp user=wmeler@gmail.com [sending mail] Immediate=true Quoted-Printable=true --------------------- cheers, wmeler