[opensuse] Kaffeine on 11.3 fails to produce audio
Well this does not bode at all well Kaffeine fails very miserably on the first hurdle try to view TV and i get a quick click of sound no video and a report of kaffeine xbu segmentation fault this is not good at all for what is supposed to be the best around in fact it sucks . where do i get a kaffeine that is going to work or do i have to can 11.3 and go back to 11.2 . This is just the first of the several (for me absolute show stoppers ) i have found in the first 2 hours of playing with 11.3 not good folks it needed another 2 months of RC before it went GM not good at all Pete . -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 07/07/10 19:37, peter nikolic wrote:
Well this does not bode at all well
Kaffeine fails very miserably on the first hurdle try to view TV and i get a quick click of sound no video and a report of kaffeine xbu segmentation fault this is not good at all for what is supposed to be the best around in fact it sucks .
There is nothing spectacular about kaffeine, Peter, except that it can record a program. (I've been waiting for a fix to be implemented for around 12 months now after the maintainer said he found the reason for the problem I reported :-( .) I use xine which I find far superior to kaffeine - except that it cannot do recordings. To use xine install xine-ui. Configure xine - if you need some info or even my control file then simply ask and I'll send you my copy which you can then alter to suit your system. Also, to watch TV you will need to create a channels.conf file for it and the bestest way of doing this is to install w-scan; then run "w_scan -c <yy> -X > channels.conf" [1] where <yy> is your country's code (like AU is for me) and it will generate the conf file for where you live; copy this conf file to the ~/.xine directory and away you go with your TV. (BTW, the line command I just gave applies for a terrestrial system - and you will need to change the "-c" to configure for for cable or satellite - read the README for w-scan.) [1] note the difference between the "-" and the underscore "_" in "w-scan" and "w_scan". Also note my use of ">" and not the ">>" used in the README. BC -- A man kept complaining about not having shoes to wear - until he saw a man with no legs. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 19:30:31 Basil Chupin wrote:
On 07/07/10 19:37, peter nikolic wrote:
Well this does not bode at all well
Kaffeine fails very miserably on the first hurdle try to view TV and i get a quick click of sound no video and a report of kaffeine xbu segmentation fault this is not good at all for what is supposed to be the best around in fact it sucks .
There is nothing spectacular about kaffeine, Peter, except that it can record a program. (I've been waiting for a fix to be implemented for around 12 months now after the maintainer said he found the reason for the problem I reported :-( .)
I use xine which I find far superior to kaffeine - except that it cannot do recordings.
To use xine install xine-ui. Configure xine - if you need some info or even my control file then simply ask and I'll send you my copy which you can then alter to suit your system.
Also, to watch TV you will need to create a channels.conf file for it and the bestest way of doing this is to install w-scan; then run "w_scan -c <yy> -X > channels.conf" [1] where <yy> is your country's code (like AU is for me) and it will generate the conf file for where you live; copy this conf file to the ~/.xine directory and away you go with your TV. (BTW, the line command I just gave applies for a terrestrial system - and you will need to change the "-c" to configure for for cable or satellite - read the README for w-scan.)
[1] note the difference between the "-" and the underscore "_" in "w-scan" and "w_scan". Also note my use of ">" and not the ">>" used in the README.
BC
Basil, Where did you get w_scan from? I can't find it in any of the repo's that I have configured (which include packman and vlc) - running 11.2/KDE4.4.93. Thanks, Rodney. -- =================================================== Rodney Baker VK5ZTV rodney.baker@iinet.net.au =================================================== -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 27/07/10 09:52, Rodney Baker wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 19:30:31 Basil Chupin wrote:
On 07/07/10 19:37, peter nikolic wrote:
Well this does not bode at all well
Kaffeine fails very miserably on the first hurdle try to view TV and i get a quick click of sound no video and a report of kaffeine xbu segmentation fault this is not good at all for what is supposed to be the best around in fact it sucks .
There is nothing spectacular about kaffeine, Peter, except that it can record a program. (I've been waiting for a fix to be implemented for around 12 months now after the maintainer said he found the reason for the problem I reported :-( .)
I use xine which I find far superior to kaffeine - except that it cannot do recordings.
To use xine install xine-ui. Configure xine - if you need some info or even my control file then simply ask and I'll send you my copy which you can then alter to suit your system.
Also, to watch TV you will need to create a channels.conf file for it and the bestest way of doing this is to install w-scan; then run "w_scan -c<yy> -X> channels.conf" [1] where<yy> is your country's code (like AU is for me) and it will generate the conf file for where you live; copy this conf file to the ~/.xine directory and away you go with your TV. (BTW, the line command I just gave applies for a terrestrial system - and you will need to change the "-c" to configure for for cable or satellite - read the README for w-scan.)
[1] note the difference between the "-" and the underscore "_" in "w-scan" and "w_scan". Also note my use of">" and not the">>" used in the README.
BC
Basil, Where did you get w_scan from? I can't find it in any of the repo's that I have configured (which include packman and vlc) - running 11.2/KDE4.4.93.
Thanks, Rodney.
Here Rodney: http://edafe.org/vdr/w_scan/ (But note that the app is called w-scan, but the executable is w_scan.) BC -- A man kept complaining about not having shoes to wear - until he saw a man with no legs. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 27 July 2010 11:54:16 Basil Chupin wrote:
On 27/07/10 09:52, Rodney Baker wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 19:30:31 Basil Chupin wrote:
On 07/07/10 19:37, peter nikolic wrote:
Well this does not bode at all well
Kaffeine fails very miserably on the first hurdle try to view TV and i get a quick click of sound no video and a report of kaffeine xbu segmentation fault this is not good at all for what is supposed to be the best around in fact it sucks .
There is nothing spectacular about kaffeine, Peter, except that it can record a program. (I've been waiting for a fix to be implemented for around 12 months now after the maintainer said he found the reason for the problem I reported :-( .)
I use xine which I find far superior to kaffeine - except that it cannot do recordings.
To use xine install xine-ui. Configure xine - if you need some info or even my control file then simply ask and I'll send you my copy which you can then alter to suit your system.
Also, to watch TV you will need to create a channels.conf file for it and the bestest way of doing this is to install w-scan; then run "w_scan -c<yy> -X> channels.conf" [1] where<yy> is your country's code (like AU is for me) and it will generate the conf file for where you live; copy this conf file to the ~/.xine directory and away you go with your TV. (BTW, the line command I just gave applies for a terrestrial system - and you will need to change the "-c" to configure for for cable or satellite - read the README for w-scan.)
[1] note the difference between the "-" and the underscore "_" in "w-scan" and "w_scan". Also note my use of">" and not the">>" used in the README.
BC
Basil, Where did you get w_scan from? I can't find it in any of the repo's that I have configured (which include packman and vlc) - running 11.2/KDE4.4.93.
Thanks, Rodney.
Here Rodney: http://edafe.org/vdr/w_scan/
(But note that the app is called w-scan, but the executable is w_scan.)
BC
Thanks, Basil. I'll give it a go. I do like Kaffeine and the svn works OK for me under 11.2/KDE4.4.93 (I've not updated to 11.3 on my desktop yet and I don't use kaffeine on the 11.3 laptop). Haven't yet tried xine for DVB but will have to have a play with it. Regards, Rodney. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 27/07/10 20:25, Rodney Baker wrote:
On Tuesday 27 July 2010 11:54:16 Basil Chupin wrote:
On 27/07/10 09:52, Rodney Baker wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 19:30:31 Basil Chupin wrote:
On 07/07/10 19:37, peter nikolic wrote:
Well this does not bode at all well
Kaffeine fails very miserably on the first hurdle try to view TV and i get a quick click of sound no video and a report of kaffeine xbu segmentation fault this is not good at all for what is supposed to be the best around in fact it sucks .
There is nothing spectacular about kaffeine, Peter, except that it can record a program. (I've been waiting for a fix to be implemented for around 12 months now after the maintainer said he found the reason for the problem I reported :-( .)
I use xine which I find far superior to kaffeine - except that it cannot do recordings.
To use xine install xine-ui. Configure xine - if you need some info or even my control file then simply ask and I'll send you my copy which you can then alter to suit your system.
Also, to watch TV you will need to create a channels.conf file for it and the bestest way of doing this is to install w-scan; then run "w_scan -c<yy> -X> channels.conf" [1] where<yy> is your country's code (like AU is for me) and it will generate the conf file for where you live; copy this conf file to the ~/.xine directory and away you go with your TV. (BTW, the line command I just gave applies for a terrestrial system - and you will need to change the "-c" to configure for for cable or satellite - read the README for w-scan.)
[1] note the difference between the "-" and the underscore "_" in "w-scan" and "w_scan". Also note my use of">" and not the">>" used in the README.
BC
Basil, Where did you get w_scan from? I can't find it in any of the repo's that I have configured (which include packman and vlc) - running 11.2/KDE4.4.93.
Thanks, Rodney.
Here Rodney: http://edafe.org/vdr/w_scan/
(But note that the app is called w-scan, but the executable is w_scan.)
BC
Thanks, Basil. I'll give it a go. I do like Kaffeine and the svn works OK for me under 11.2/KDE4.4.93 (I've not updated to 11.3 on my desktop yet and I don't use kaffeine on the 11.3 laptop). Haven't yet tried xine for DVB but will have to have a play with it.
Regards, Rodney.
I have been using xine for years now to watch TV (DVB-T), play CDs, and watch DVDs; kaffeine to record a program provided it is not one of the HD channels with which it has trouble recognising the channel's audio stream; and I use vlc to play back a DVD which has been transferred to the HD (kaffeine used to be able to do this but its options have now been chopped down) - and there is a trick in using vlc to view a DVD directory on the HD :-) . To use xine you will need to get the channels.conf created (with w_scan) but you will also need to configure xine. And to save you some hassles I can send you my config file and you can then make adjustments to suit your own setup - it's only 19K big. BC -- A man kept complaining about not having shoes to wear - until he saw a man with no legs. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 27 Jul 2010 00:52:17 Rodney Baker wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 19:30:31 Basil Chupin wrote:
On 07/07/10 19:37, peter nikolic wrote:
Well this does not bode at all well
Kaffeine fails very miserably on the first hurdle try to view TV and i get a quick click of sound no video and a report of kaffeine xbu segmentation fault this is not good at all for what is supposed to be the best around in fact it sucks .
There is nothing spectacular about kaffeine, Peter, except that it can record a program. (I've been waiting for a fix to be implemented for around 12 months now after the maintainer said he found the reason for the problem I reported :-( .)
I use xine which I find far superior to kaffeine - except that it cannot do recordings.
To use xine install xine-ui. Configure xine - if you need some info or even my control file then simply ask and I'll send you my copy which you can then alter to suit your system.
Also, to watch TV you will need to create a channels.conf file for it and the bestest way of doing this is to install w-scan; then run "w_scan -c <yy> -X > channels.conf" [1] where <yy> is your country's code (like AU is for me) and it will generate the conf file for where you live; copy this conf file to the ~/.xine directory and away you go with your TV. (BTW, the line command I just gave applies for a terrestrial system - and you will need to change the "-c" to configure for for cable or satellite - read the README for w-scan.)
[1] note the difference between the "-" and the underscore "_" in "w-scan" and "w_scan". Also note my use of ">" and not the ">>" used in the README.
BC
Basil, Where did you get w_scan from? I can't find it in any of the repo's that I have configured (which include packman and vlc) - running 11.2/KDE4.4.93.
Thanks, Rodney.
Yes Hi again Basil . i have to admit i had forgotten about w-scan althou xine does scan ok a bit slow and clunky and makes a bit of a mess it works BUT VLC also works and does a nice job of the tv display but i just prefere Kaffeine i will have to try the svn version build it and see what happens . Battle will continue i have since then found a few more stumbeling blocks one is a real PITA to me in OOo Cheers Pete . -- Powered by openSUSE 11.3 (x86_64) Kernel: 2.6.34-12-desktop KDE Development Platform: 4.4.4 (KDE 4.4.4) "release 2" 08:07 up 23:41, 3 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 27/07/10 17:12, Peter Nikolic wrote:
On Tuesday 27 Jul 2010 00:52:17 Rodney Baker wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 19:30:31 Basil Chupin wrote:
On 07/07/10 19:37, peter nikolic wrote:
Well this does not bode at all well
Kaffeine fails very miserably on the first hurdle try to view TV and i get a quick click of sound no video and a report of kaffeine xbu segmentation fault this is not good at all for what is supposed to be the best around in fact it sucks .
There is nothing spectacular about kaffeine, Peter, except that it can record a program. (I've been waiting for a fix to be implemented for around 12 months now after the maintainer said he found the reason for the problem I reported :-( .)
I use xine which I find far superior to kaffeine - except that it cannot do recordings.
To use xine install xine-ui. Configure xine - if you need some info or even my control file then simply ask and I'll send you my copy which you can then alter to suit your system.
Also, to watch TV you will need to create a channels.conf file for it and the bestest way of doing this is to install w-scan; then run "w_scan -c<yy> -X> channels.conf" [1] where<yy> is your country's code (like AU is for me) and it will generate the conf file for where you live; copy this conf file to the ~/.xine directory and away you go with your TV. (BTW, the line command I just gave applies for a terrestrial system - and you will need to change the "-c" to configure for for cable or satellite - read the README for w-scan.)
[1] note the difference between the "-" and the underscore "_" in "w-scan" and "w_scan". Also note my use of">" and not the">>" used in the README.
BC
Basil, Where did you get w_scan from? I can't find it in any of the repo's that I have configured (which include packman and vlc) - running 11.2/KDE4.4.93.
Thanks, Rodney.
Yes Hi again Basil .
i have to admit i had forgotten about w-scan althou xine does scan ok a bit slow and clunky and makes a bit of a mess it works BUT VLC also works and does a nice job of the tv display
I'm buggered if I can figure out on how to get vlc to recognise the TV channels on the DVB-T card :-( . And I cannot find the appopriate documentation which would show me how to do this - most of the dox appear to be in the "yet to do" category :-( . Perhaps something in the mail list of the forum for videolan but as xine is working most satisfactorily for me I haven't bothered to go tearing my hair out trying to get vlc to do TV.
but i just prefere Kaffeine i will have to try the svn version build it and see what happens .
Battle will continue i have since then found a few more stumbeling blocks one is a real PITA to me in OOo
What you need is some paper, a pen and some ink. Remember these things from the past: pen...ink...? (Tried to tell my uncle about the internet and he said, "What's wrong with writing a letter and mailing it? And it costs a fraction of what you pay for the what you are now doing." Can't beat his logic.....) BC -- A man kept complaining about not having shoes to wear - until he saw a man with no legs. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 27 Jul 2010 12:53:55 Basil Chupin wrote:
On 27/07/10 17:12, Peter Nikolic wrote:
On Tuesday 27 Jul 2010 00:52:17 Rodney Baker wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 19:30:31 Basil Chupin wrote:
On 07/07/10 19:37, peter nikolic wrote:
Well this does not bode at all well
Kaffeine fails very miserably on the first hurdle try to view TV and i get a quick click of sound no video and a report of kaffeine xbu segmentation fault this is not good at all for what is supposed to be the best around in fact it sucks .
There is nothing spectacular about kaffeine, Peter, except that it can record a program. (I've been waiting for a fix to be implemented for around 12 months now after the maintainer said he found the reason for the problem I reported :-( .)
I use xine which I find far superior to kaffeine - except that it cannot do recordings.
To use xine install xine-ui. Configure xine - if you need some info or even my control file then simply ask and I'll send you my copy which you can then alter to suit your system.
Also, to watch TV you will need to create a channels.conf file for it and the bestest way of doing this is to install w-scan; then run "w_scan -c<yy> -X> channels.conf" [1] where<yy> is your country's code (like AU is for me) and it will generate the conf file for where you live; copy this conf file to the ~/.xine directory and away you go with your TV. (BTW, the line command I just gave applies for a terrestrial system - and you will need to change the "-c" to configure for for cable or satellite - read the README for w-scan.)
[1] note the difference between the "-" and the underscore "_" in "w-scan" and "w_scan". Also note my use of">" and not the">>" used in the README.
BC
Basil, Where did you get w_scan from? I can't find it in any of the repo's that I have configured (which include packman and vlc) - running 11.2/KDE4.4.93.
Thanks, Rodney.
Yes Hi again Basil .
i have to admit i had forgotten about w-scan althou xine does scan ok a bit slow and clunky and makes a bit of a mess it works BUT VLC also works and does a nice job of the tv display
I'm buggered if I can figure out on how to get vlc to recognise the TV channels on the DVB-T card :-( . And I cannot find the appopriate documentation which would show me how to do this - most of the dox appear to be in the "yet to do" category :-( . Perhaps something in the mail list of the forum for videolan but as xine is working most satisfactorily for me I haven't bothered to go tearing my hair out trying to get vlc to do TV.
Right then here is what i do to get VLC to show TV Open VLC > Media > open capture device New window opens then the box where it says video for Linux 2 click on that pick DVB you will then see just below that the DVB adaptor pick DVB s t or c to suit your card mine is t terristial then at the bottom of the window you will see a button Play click that it will then clear off a new small window will open and show the scan progress . Once it has finished at the bottom of the main window on mine it is the 6th button along Playlist square button with three line and dots horizontal on it click that up com,es the list of what it has found click on your choice bingo ..
but i just prefere Kaffeine i will
have to try the svn version build it and see what happens .
Battle will continue i have since then found a few more stumbeling blocks one is a real PITA to me in OOo
What you need is some paper, a pen and some ink. Remember these things from the past: pen...ink...?
(Tried to tell my uncle about the internet and he said, "What's wrong with writing a letter and mailing it? And it costs a fraction of what you pay for the what you are now doing." Can't beat his logic.....)
BC
Hum yes been there but when you need to print 200 plus labels it get a bit much hand writing them by hand Pete -- Powered by openSUSE 11.3 (x86_64) Kernel: 2.6.34-12-desktop KDE Development Platform: 4.4.4 (KDE 4.4.4) "release 2" 14:16 up 1 day 5:50, 5 users, load average: 0.51, 0.27, 0.20 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 27/07/10 23:24, Peter Nikolic wrote:
On Tuesday 27 Jul 2010 12:53:55 Basil Chupin wrote:
On 27/07/10 17:12, Peter Nikolic wrote:
On Tuesday 27 Jul 2010 00:52:17 Rodney Baker wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 19:30:31 Basil Chupin wrote:
On 07/07/10 19:37, peter nikolic wrote:
Well this does not bode at all well
Kaffeine fails very miserably on the first hurdle try to view TV and i get a quick click of sound no video and a report of kaffeine xbu segmentation fault this is not good at all for what is supposed to be the best around in fact it sucks .
There is nothing spectacular about kaffeine, Peter, except that it can record a program. (I've been waiting for a fix to be implemented for around 12 months now after the maintainer said he found the reason for the problem I reported :-( .)
I use xine which I find far superior to kaffeine - except that it cannot do recordings.
To use xine install xine-ui. Configure xine - if you need some info or even my control file then simply ask and I'll send you my copy which you can then alter to suit your system.
Also, to watch TV you will need to create a channels.conf file for it and the bestest way of doing this is to install w-scan; then run "w_scan -c<yy> -X> channels.conf" [1] where<yy> is your country's code (like AU is for me) and it will generate the conf file for where you live; copy this conf file to the ~/.xine directory and away you go with your TV. (BTW, the line command I just gave applies for a terrestrial system - and you will need to change the "-c" to configure for for cable or satellite - read the README for w-scan.)
[1] note the difference between the "-" and the underscore "_" in "w-scan" and "w_scan". Also note my use of">" and not the">>" used in the README.
BC
Basil, Where did you get w_scan from? I can't find it in any of the repo's that I have configured (which include packman and vlc) - running 11.2/KDE4.4.93.
Thanks, Rodney.
Yes Hi again Basil .
i have to admit i had forgotten about w-scan althou xine does scan ok a bit slow and clunky and makes a bit of a mess it works BUT VLC also works and does a nice job of the tv display
I'm buggered if I can figure out on how to get vlc to recognise the TV channels on the DVB-T card :-( . And I cannot find the appopriate documentation which would show me how to do this - most of the dox appear to be in the "yet to do" category :-( . Perhaps something in the mail list of the forum for videolan but as xine is working most satisfactorily for me I haven't bothered to go tearing my hair out trying to get vlc to do TV.
Right then here is what i do to get VLC to show TV
Open VLC> Media> open capture device
New window opens
then the box where it says video for Linux 2 click on that pick DVB you will then see just below that the DVB adaptor pick DVB s t or c to suit your card mine is t terristial then at the bottom of the window you will see a button Play click that it will then clear off a new small window will open and show the scan progress .
Been there, done that...and this is where the wheels fall off :-( . The scan progresses but no stations are selected! :-( . Zilch. Nothing. :-( Something is missing but I don't know what. If I could get the darn thing to actually find the stations during the scan I would be a happy-chappy. kaffeine will do it without any problems; xine will do it with the help of either dvb-utils or w-scan - but not vlc :-( . BC -- A man kept complaining about not having shoes to wear - until he saw a man with no legs. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 27 Jul 2010 14:53:29 Basil Chupin wrote:
On 27/07/10 23:24, Peter Nikolic wrote:
On Tuesday 27 Jul 2010 12:53:55 Basil Chupin wrote:
On 27/07/10 17:12, Peter Nikolic wrote:
On Tuesday 27 Jul 2010 00:52:17 Rodney Baker wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 19:30:31 Basil Chupin wrote:
On 07/07/10 19:37, peter nikolic wrote: > Well this does not bode at all well > > Kaffeine fails very miserably on the first hurdle try to view TV > and i get a quick click of sound no video and a report of kaffeine > xbu segmentation fault this is not good at all for what is supposed > to be the best around in fact it sucks .
There is nothing spectacular about kaffeine, Peter, except that it can record a program. (I've been waiting for a fix to be implemented for around 12 months now after the maintainer said he found the reason for the problem I reported :-( .)
I use xine which I find far superior to kaffeine - except that it cannot do recordings.
To use xine install xine-ui. Configure xine - if you need some info or even my control file then simply ask and I'll send you my copy which you can then alter to suit your system.
Also, to watch TV you will need to create a channels.conf file for it and the bestest way of doing this is to install w-scan; then run "w_scan -c<yy> -X> channels.conf" [1] where<yy> is your country's code (like AU is for me) and it will generate the conf file for where you live; copy this conf file to the ~/.xine directory and away you go with your TV. (BTW, the line command I just gave applies for a terrestrial system - and you will need to change the "-c" to configure for for cable or satellite - read the README for w-scan.)
[1] note the difference between the "-" and the underscore "_" in "w-scan" and "w_scan". Also note my use of">" and not the">>" used in the README.
BC
Basil, Where did you get w_scan from? I can't find it in any of the repo's that I have configured (which include packman and vlc) - running 11.2/KDE4.4.93.
Thanks, Rodney.
Yes Hi again Basil .
i have to admit i had forgotten about w-scan althou xine does scan ok a bit slow and clunky and makes a bit of a mess it works BUT VLC also works and does a nice job of the tv display
I'm buggered if I can figure out on how to get vlc to recognise the TV channels on the DVB-T card :-( . And I cannot find the appopriate documentation which would show me how to do this - most of the dox appear to be in the "yet to do" category :-( . Perhaps something in the mail list of the forum for videolan but as xine is working most satisfactorily for me I haven't bothered to go tearing my hair out trying to get vlc to do TV.
Right then here is what i do to get VLC to show TV
Open VLC> Media> open capture device
New window opens
then the box where it says video for Linux 2 click on that pick DVB you will then see just below that the DVB adaptor pick DVB s t or c to suit your card mine is t terristial then at the bottom of the window you will see a button Play click that it will then clear off a new small window will open and show the scan progress .
Been there, done that...and this is where the wheels fall off :-( . The scan progresses but no stations are selected! :-( . Zilch. Nothing. :-(
Something is missing but I don't know what.
If I could get the darn thing to actually find the stations during the scan I would be a happy-chappy. kaffeine will do it without any problems; xine will do it with the help of either dvb-utils or w-scan - but not vlc :-( .
BC Hum well not sure what is missing then this is just a new install of 11.3 x86_64 with the pacman repo updates maybe it is to do with that but it just worked and was likewise on 11.2
Pete . -- Powered by openSUSE 11.3 (x86_64) Kernel: 2.6.34-12-desktop KDE Development Platform: 4.4.4 (KDE 4.4.4) "release 2" 15:46 up 1 day 7:20, 5 users, load average: 0.34, 0.31, 0.22 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 28/07/10 00:48, Peter Nikolic wrote:
On Tuesday 27 Jul 2010 14:53:29 Basil Chupin wrote:
On 27/07/10 23:24, Peter Nikolic wrote:
On Tuesday 27 Jul 2010 12:53:55 Basil Chupin wrote:
On 27/07/10 17:12, Peter Nikolic wrote:
On Tuesday 27 Jul 2010 00:52:17 Rodney Baker wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 19:30:31 Basil Chupin wrote:
> On 07/07/10 19:37, peter nikolic wrote: > >> Well this does not bode at all well >> >> Kaffeine fails very miserably on the first hurdle try to view TV >> and i get a quick click of sound no video and a report of kaffeine >> xbu segmentation fault this is not good at all for what is supposed >> to be the best around in fact it sucks . >> > There is nothing spectacular about kaffeine, Peter, except that it > can record a program. (I've been waiting for a fix to be implemented > for around 12 months now after the maintainer said he found the > reason for the problem I reported :-( .) > > I use xine which I find far superior to kaffeine - except that it > cannot do recordings. > > To use xine install xine-ui. Configure xine - if you need some info > or even my control file then simply ask and I'll send you my copy > which you can then alter to suit your system. > > Also, to watch TV you will need to create a channels.conf file for it > and the bestest way of doing this is to install w-scan; then run > "w_scan -c<yy> -X> channels.conf" [1] where<yy> is your > country's code (like AU is for me) and it will generate the conf > file for where you live; copy this conf file to the ~/.xine > directory and away you go with your TV. (BTW, the line command I > just gave applies for a terrestrial system - and you will need to > change the "-c" to configure for for cable or satellite - read the > README for w-scan.) > > [1] note the difference between the "-" and the underscore "_" in > "w-scan" and "w_scan". Also note my use of">" and not the">>" used in > the README. > > BC > Basil, Where did you get w_scan from? I can't find it in any of the repo's that I have configured (which include packman and vlc) - running 11.2/KDE4.4.93.
Thanks, Rodney.
Yes Hi again Basil .
i have to admit i had forgotten about w-scan althou xine does scan ok a bit slow and clunky and makes a bit of a mess it works BUT VLC also works and does a nice job of the tv display
I'm buggered if I can figure out on how to get vlc to recognise the TV channels on the DVB-T card :-( . And I cannot find the appopriate documentation which would show me how to do this - most of the dox appear to be in the "yet to do" category :-( . Perhaps something in the mail list of the forum for videolan but as xine is working most satisfactorily for me I haven't bothered to go tearing my hair out trying to get vlc to do TV.
Right then here is what i do to get VLC to show TV
Open VLC> Media> open capture device
New window opens
then the box where it says video for Linux 2 click on that pick DVB you will then see just below that the DVB adaptor pick DVB s t or c to suit your card mine is t terristial then at the bottom of the window you will see a button Play click that it will then clear off a new small window will open and show the scan progress .
Been there, done that...and this is where the wheels fall off :-( . The scan progresses but no stations are selected! :-( . Zilch. Nothing. :-(
Something is missing but I don't know what.
If I could get the darn thing to actually find the stations during the scan I would be a happy-chappy. kaffeine will do it without any problems; xine will do it with the help of either dvb-utils or w-scan - but not vlc :-( .
BC
Hum well not sure what is missing then this is just a new install of 11.3 x86_64 with the pacman repo updates maybe it is to do with that but it just worked and was likewise on 11.2
Pete .
Well, I solved the problem of not being able to view TV using vlc :-) . I can now see all channels - which also means that I can now replace kaffeine (for the recording of programs) and xine (for TV and DVDs) and use vlc for everything. BC -- If nothing happens, nothing can go wrong. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Friday 30 Jul 2010 05:30:11 Basil Chupin wrote:
On 28/07/10 00:48, Peter Nikolic wrote:
On Tuesday 27 Jul 2010 14:53:29 Basil Chupin wrote:
On 27/07/10 23:24, Peter Nikolic wrote:
On Tuesday 27 Jul 2010 12:53:55 Basil Chupin wrote:
On 27/07/10 17:12, Peter Nikolic wrote:
On Tuesday 27 Jul 2010 00:52:17 Rodney Baker wrote: > On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 19:30:31 Basil Chupin wrote: >> On 07/07/10 19:37, peter nikolic wrote: >>> Well this does not bode at all well >>> >>> Kaffeine fails very miserably on the first hurdle try to view TV >>> and i get a quick click of sound no video and a report of kaffeine >>> xbu segmentation fault this is not good at all for what is >>> supposed to be the best around in fact it sucks . >> >> There is nothing spectacular about kaffeine, Peter, except that it >> can record a program. (I've been waiting for a fix to be >> implemented for around 12 months now after the maintainer said he >> found the reason for the problem I reported :-( .) >> >> I use xine which I find far superior to kaffeine - except that it >> cannot do recordings. >> >> To use xine install xine-ui. Configure xine - if you need some info >> or even my control file then simply ask and I'll send you my copy >> which you can then alter to suit your system. >> >> Also, to watch TV you will need to create a channels.conf file for >> it and the bestest way of doing this is to install w-scan; then >> run "w_scan -c<yy> -X> channels.conf" [1] where<yy> is >> your country's code (like AU is for me) and it will generate the >> conf file for where you live; copy this conf file to the ~/.xine >> directory and away you go with your TV. (BTW, the line command I >> just gave applies for a terrestrial system - and you will need to >> change the "-c" to configure for for cable or satellite - read the >> README for w-scan.) >> >> [1] note the difference between the "-" and the underscore "_" in >> "w-scan" and "w_scan". Also note my use of">" and not the">>" used >> in the README. >> >> BC > > Basil, > Where did you get w_scan from? I can't find it in any of the repo's > that I have configured (which include packman and vlc) - running > 11.2/KDE4.4.93. > > Thanks, > Rodney.
Yes Hi again Basil .
i have to admit i had forgotten about w-scan althou xine does scan ok a bit slow and clunky and makes a bit of a mess it works BUT VLC also works and does a nice job of the tv display
I'm buggered if I can figure out on how to get vlc to recognise the TV channels on the DVB-T card :-( . And I cannot find the appopriate documentation which would show me how to do this - most of the dox appear to be in the "yet to do" category :-( . Perhaps something in the mail list of the forum for videolan but as xine is working most satisfactorily for me I haven't bothered to go tearing my hair out trying to get vlc to do TV.
Right then here is what i do to get VLC to show TV
Open VLC> Media> open capture device
New window opens
then the box where it says video for Linux 2 click on that pick DVB you will then see just below that the DVB adaptor pick DVB s t or c to suit your card mine is t terristial then at the bottom of the window you will see a button Play click that it will then clear off a new small window will open and show the scan progress .
Been there, done that...and this is where the wheels fall off :-( . The scan progresses but no stations are selected! :-( . Zilch. Nothing. :-(
Something is missing but I don't know what.
If I could get the darn thing to actually find the stations during the scan I would be a happy-chappy. kaffeine will do it without any problems; xine will do it with the help of either dvb-utils or w-scan - but not vlc :-( .
BC
Hum well not sure what is missing then this is just a new install of 11.3 x86_64 with the pacman repo updates maybe it is to do with that but it just worked and was likewise on 11.2
Pete .
Well, I solved the problem of not being able to view TV using vlc :-) . I can now see all channels - which also means that I can now replace kaffeine (for the recording of programs) and xine (for TV and DVDs) and use vlc for everything.
BC Hi Basil ..
What you have to do to get it working .. i actully had a bit of a strange one with VLC 2 days ago i had scanned for channels saved the file as a playlist closed it all down called up VLC again and it no way would play any of the BBC channels everything else was fine but no BBC so i rescanned saved that file under another name it missed a lof of stuff (signal levels here can be crap to be polite about it) hacke the 2 files together and all fine loads dead quick changes channel quick still having a dust up with kaffeine but for now VLC is working The thing is this computer is not only the computer it is my complete media center TV Radio Music Video ect so it not working is a real PITA Pete . -- Powered by openSUSE 11.3 (x86_64) Kernel: 2.6.34-12-desktop KDE Development Platform: 4.4.4 (KDE 4.4.4) "release 2" 08:40 up 1 day 15:26, 3 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 30/07/2010 17:46, Peter Nikolic wrote:
On Friday 30 Jul 2010 05:30:11 Basil Chupin wrote:
On 28/07/10 00:48, Peter Nikolic wrote:
On Tuesday 27 Jul 2010 14:53:29 Basil Chupin wrote:
On 27/07/10 23:24, Peter Nikolic wrote:
On Tuesday 27 Jul 2010 12:53:55 Basil Chupin wrote:
On 27/07/10 17:12, Peter Nikolic wrote:
> On Tuesday 27 Jul 2010 00:52:17 Rodney Baker wrote: > >> On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 19:30:31 Basil Chupin wrote: >> >>> On 07/07/10 19:37, peter nikolic wrote: >>> >>>> Well this does not bode at all well >>>> >>>> Kaffeine fails very miserably on the first hurdle try to view TV >>>> and i get a quick click of sound no video and a report of kaffeine >>>> xbu segmentation fault this is not good at all for what is >>>> supposed to be the best around in fact it sucks . >>>> >>> There is nothing spectacular about kaffeine, Peter, except that it >>> can record a program. (I've been waiting for a fix to be >>> implemented for around 12 months now after the maintainer said he >>> found the reason for the problem I reported :-( .) >>> >>> I use xine which I find far superior to kaffeine - except that it >>> cannot do recordings. >>> >>> To use xine install xine-ui. Configure xine - if you need some info >>> or even my control file then simply ask and I'll send you my copy >>> which you can then alter to suit your system. >>> >>> Also, to watch TV you will need to create a channels.conf file for >>> it and the bestest way of doing this is to install w-scan; then >>> run "w_scan -c<yy> -X> channels.conf" [1] where<yy> is >>> your country's code (like AU is for me) and it will generate the >>> conf file for where you live; copy this conf file to the ~/.xine >>> directory and away you go with your TV. (BTW, the line command I >>> just gave applies for a terrestrial system - and you will need to >>> change the "-c" to configure for for cable or satellite - read the >>> README for w-scan.) >>> >>> [1] note the difference between the "-" and the underscore "_" in >>> "w-scan" and "w_scan". Also note my use of">" and not the">>" used >>> in the README. >>> >>> BC >>> >> Basil, >> Where did you get w_scan from? I can't find it in any of the repo's >> that I have configured (which include packman and vlc) - running >> 11.2/KDE4.4.93. >> >> Thanks, >> Rodney. >> > Yes Hi again Basil . > > i have to admit i had forgotten about w-scan althou xine does scan ok > a bit slow and clunky and makes a bit of a mess it works BUT > VLC also works and does a nice job of the tv display > I'm buggered if I can figure out on how to get vlc to recognise the TV channels on the DVB-T card :-( . And I cannot find the appopriate documentation which would show me how to do this - most of the dox appear to be in the "yet to do" category :-( . Perhaps something in the mail list of the forum for videolan but as xine is working most satisfactorily for me I haven't bothered to go tearing my hair out trying to get vlc to do TV.
Right then here is what i do to get VLC to show TV
Open VLC> Media> open capture device
New window opens
then the box where it says video for Linux 2 click on that pick DVB you will then see just below that the DVB adaptor pick DVB s t or c to suit your card mine is t terristial then at the bottom of the window you will see a button Play click that it will then clear off a new small window will open and show the scan progress .
Been there, done that...and this is where the wheels fall off :-( . The scan progresses but no stations are selected! :-( . Zilch. Nothing. :-(
Something is missing but I don't know what.
If I could get the darn thing to actually find the stations during the scan I would be a happy-chappy. kaffeine will do it without any problems; xine will do it with the help of either dvb-utils or w-scan - but not vlc :-( .
BC
Hum well not sure what is missing then this is just a new install of 11.3 x86_64 with the pacman repo updates maybe it is to do with that but it just worked and was likewise on 11.2
Pete .
Well, I solved the problem of not being able to view TV using vlc :-) . I can now see all channels - which also means that I can now replace kaffeine (for the recording of programs) and xine (for TV and DVDs) and use vlc for everything.
BC
Hi Basil ..
What you have to do to get it working ..
i actully had a bit of a strange one with VLC 2 days ago i had scanned for channels saved the file as a playlist closed it all down called up VLC again and it no way would play any of the BBC channels everything else was fine but no BBC so i rescanned saved that file under another name it missed a lof of stuff (signal levels here can be crap to be polite about it) hacke the 2 files together and all fine loads dead quick changes channel quick still having a dust up with kaffeine but for now VLC is working
To be honest, I really don't know what you mean by "scanning for channels" and "[saving] the file as a playlist". Doing this from within vlc does zilch, nothing, nada, not a sausage is generated - at least for *me*, and unless *you* are also using some magical incantations while doing so (and about which you have been keeping very quiet, you naughty-type man :-) ). What you DO have to do is to use w-scan to produce a channels.conf file which you then use in the command line when you start vlc. If you do this only THEN will you get the TV channels which vlc recognises as the Playlist.
The thing is this computer is not only the computer it is my complete media center TV Radio Music Video ect so it not working is a real PITA
Pete .
BC -- If nothing happens, nothing can go wrong. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Friday 30 Jul 2010 12:25:28 Basil Chupin wrote:
On 30/07/2010 17:46, Peter Nikolic wrote:
On Friday 30 Jul 2010 05:30:11 Basil Chupin wrote:
On 28/07/10 00:48, Peter Nikolic wrote:
On Tuesday 27 Jul 2010 14:53:29 Basil Chupin wrote:
On 27/07/10 23:24, Peter Nikolic wrote:
On Tuesday 27 Jul 2010 12:53:55 Basil Chupin wrote: > On 27/07/10 17:12, Peter Nikolic wrote: >> On Tuesday 27 Jul 2010 00:52:17 Rodney Baker wrote: >>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 19:30:31 Basil Chupin wrote: >>>> On 07/07/10 19:37, peter nikolic wrote: >>>>> Well this does not bode at all well >>>>> >>>>> Kaffeine fails very miserably on the first hurdle try to view >>>>> TV and i get a quick click of sound no video and a report of >>>>> kaffeine xbu segmentation fault this is not good at all for >>>>> what is supposed to be the best around in fact it sucks . >>>> >>>> There is nothing spectacular about kaffeine, Peter, except that >>>> it can record a program. (I've been waiting for a fix to be >>>> implemented for around 12 months now after the maintainer said >>>> he found the reason for the problem I reported :-( .) >>>> >>>> I use xine which I find far superior to kaffeine - except that it >>>> cannot do recordings. >>>> >>>> To use xine install xine-ui. Configure xine - if you need some >>>> info or even my control file then simply ask and I'll send you >>>> my copy which you can then alter to suit your system. >>>> >>>> Also, to watch TV you will need to create a channels.conf file >>>> for it and the bestest way of doing this is to install w-scan; >>>> then run "w_scan -c<yy> -X> channels.conf" [1] where<yy> >>>> is your country's code (like AU is for me) and it will >>>> generate the conf file for where you live; copy this conf file >>>> to the ~/.xine directory and away you go with your TV. (BTW, the >>>> line command I just gave applies for a terrestrial system - and >>>> you will need to change the "-c" to configure for for cable or >>>> satellite - read the README for w-scan.) >>>> >>>> [1] note the difference between the "-" and the underscore "_" in >>>> "w-scan" and "w_scan". Also note my use of">" and not the">>" >>>> used in the README. >>>> >>>> BC >>> >>> Basil, >>> Where did you get w_scan from? I can't find it in any of the >>> repo's that I have configured (which include packman and vlc) - >>> running 11.2/KDE4.4.93. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Rodney. >> >> Yes Hi again Basil . >> >> i have to admit i had forgotten about w-scan althou xine does scan >> ok a bit slow and clunky and makes a bit of a mess it works >> BUT VLC also works and does a nice job of the tv display > > I'm buggered if I can figure out on how to get vlc to recognise the > TV channels on the DVB-T card :-( . And I cannot find the > appopriate documentation which would show me how to do this - most > of the dox appear to be in the "yet to do" category :-( . Perhaps > something in the mail list of the forum for videolan but as xine is > working most satisfactorily for me I haven't bothered to go tearing > my hair out trying to get vlc to do TV.
Right then here is what i do to get VLC to show TV
Open VLC> Media> open capture device
New window opens
then the box where it says video for Linux 2 click on that pick DVB you will then see just below that the DVB adaptor pick DVB s t or c to suit your card mine is t terristial then at the bottom of the window you will see a button Play click that it will then clear off a new small window will open and show the scan progress .
Been there, done that...and this is where the wheels fall off :-( . The scan progresses but no stations are selected! :-( . Zilch. Nothing. :-(
Something is missing but I don't know what.
If I could get the darn thing to actually find the stations during the scan I would be a happy-chappy. kaffeine will do it without any problems; xine will do it with the help of either dvb-utils or w-scan - but not vlc :-( .
BC
Hum well not sure what is missing then this is just a new install of 11.3 x86_64 with the pacman repo updates maybe it is to do with that but it just worked and was likewise on 11.2
Pete .
Well, I solved the problem of not being able to view TV using vlc :-) . I can now see all channels - which also means that I can now replace kaffeine (for the recording of programs) and xine (for TV and DVDs) and use vlc for everything.
BC
Hi Basil ..
What you have to do to get it working ..
i actully had a bit of a strange one with VLC 2 days ago i had scanned for
channels saved the file as a playlist closed it all down called up VLC again and it no way would play any of the BBC channels everything else was fine but no BBC so i rescanned saved that file under another name it missed a lof of stuff (signal levels here can be crap to be polite about it) hacke the 2 files together and all fine loads dead quick changes channel quick still having a dust up with kaffeine but for now VLC is working
To be honest, I really don't know what you mean by "scanning for channels" and "[saving] the file as a playlist".
Hum well the version of VLC i got on here uses a .xspf file which is an XML file excert from file .. <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?> <playlist version="1" xmlns="http://xspf.org/ns/0/" xmlns:vlc="http://www.videolan.org/vlc/playlist/ns/0/"> <title>Playlist</title> <trackList> <track> <location>dvb://frequency=634333332:bandwidth=8</location> <title>BBC NEWS</title> <extension application="http://www.videolan.org/vlc/playlist/0"> <vlc:id>0</vlc:id> <vlc:option>program=4415</vlc:option> </extension> </track> <track> <location>dvb://frequency=634166670:bandwidth=8</location> <title>BBC ONE</title> <extension application="http://www.videolan.org/vlc/playlist/0"> <vlc:id>1</vlc:id> <vlc:option>program=4165</vlc:option> </extension> </track> <track> <location>dvb://frequency=634333332:bandwidth=8</location> <title>BBC Red Button</title> <extension application="http://www.videolan.org/vlc/playlist/0"> <vlc:id>2</vlc:id> <vlc:option>program=4479</vlc:option> </extension> </track> then at the end of the file there is </trackList> <extension application="http://www.videolan.org/vlc/playlist/0"> <vlc:item tid="0" /> <vlc:item tid="1" /> <vlc:item tid="2" /> <vlc:item tid="3" /> <vlc:item tid="4" />
Doing this from within vlc does zilch, nothing, nada, not a sausage is generated - at least for *me*, and unless *you* are also using some magical incantations while doing so (and about which you have been keeping very quiet, you naughty-type man :-) ).
Most strange must be a slight difference somewhere along the line
What you DO have to do is to use w-scan to produce a channels.conf file which you then use in the command line when you start vlc. If you do this only THEN will you get the TV channels which vlc recognises as the Playlist.
Now i tried w_scan with xine and the file it created made xine barf in several places
The thing is this computer is not only the computer it is my complete media center TV Radio Music Video ect so it not working is a real PITA
Pete .
BC
It never ceases to amaze me how different installs of what is supposed to be the same software seems to behave completely different from machine to machine Pete . -- Powered by openSUSE 11.3 (x86_64) Kernel: 2.6.34-12-desktop KDE Development Platform: 4.4.4 (KDE 4.4.4) "release 2" 16:24 up 1 day 23:09, 3 users, load average: 0.02, 0.16, 0.16 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
[...] What you DO have to do is to use w-scan to produce a channels.conf file which you
On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 01:02:29 Peter Nikolic wrote: then use in the command line when you start vlc. If you do
this only THEN will you get the TV channels which vlc recognises as the
Playlist.
Now i tried w_scan with xine and the file it created made xine barf in several places
The thing is this computer is not only the computer it is my complete media center TV Radio Music Video ect so it not working is a real PITA
Pete .
BC
It never ceases to amaze me how different installs of what is supposed to be the same software seems to behave completely different from machine to machine
Pete .
Did you remember to use the -X switch with w_scan to make it produce a xine-compatible channels.conf file? Tested here and works fine. Incidentally, following Basil's email re vlc, I simply started vlc from a terminal with .xine/channels.conf (the file previously generated by w_scan) as the parameter and vlc read the xine-format channels.conf file and worked fine (but performance seemed slightly worse than kaffeine on the same channels). -- =================================================== Rodney Baker VK5ZTV rodney.baker@iinet.net.au =========================================== ======== -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Friday 30 Jul 2010 16:57:37 Rodney Baker wrote:
On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 01:02:29 Peter Nikolic wrote:
[...]
Pruned
Did you remember to use the -X switch with w_scan to make it produce a xine-compatible channels.conf file? Tested here and works fine.
Incidentally, following Basil's email re vlc, I simply started vlc from a terminal with .xine/channels.conf (the file previously generated by w_scan) as the parameter and vlc read the xine-format channels.conf file and worked fine (but performance seemed slightly worse than kaffeine on the same channels).
Hi . I have noticed when i used xine for tv that it was slow to respond to channel changes i have not tried to use VLC with a xine playlist i will have to try see how it behaves but i have to say that using VLC with this format of playlist it is lightening quick to load and change channel really impressively quick in fact , I will try the xine style list tomorrow when i get back from golf and let you know how it works comparitivley Pete . -- Powered by openSUSE 11.3 (x86_64) Kernel: 2.6.34-12-desktop KDE Development Platform: 4.4.4 (KDE 4.4.4) "release 2" 20:17 up 2 days 3:02, 5 users, load average: 0.15, 0.22, 0.19 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 31/07/2010 05:21, Peter Nikolic wrote:
On Friday 30 Jul 2010 16:57:37 Rodney Baker wrote:
On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 01:02:29 Peter Nikolic wrote:
[...]
Pruned
Did you remember to use the -X switch with w_scan to make it produce a xine-compatible channels.conf file? Tested here and works fine.
Incidentally, following Basil's email re vlc, I simply started vlc from a terminal with .xine/channels.conf (the file previously generated by w_scan) as the parameter and vlc read the xine-format channels.conf file and worked fine (but performance seemed slightly worse than kaffeine on the same channels).
Hi .
I have noticed when i used xine for tv that it was slow to respond to channel changes
I've used xine since "time immemorial" and the changes from one station to the next is not slow- it only takes a couple of seconds or so to buffer the next channel.
i have not tried to use VLC with a xine playlist i will have to try see how it behaves but i have to say that using VLC with this format of playlist it is lightening quick to load and change channel really impressively quick in fact , I will try the xine style list tomorrow when i get back from golf and let you know how it works comparitivley
Pete .
BC -- If nothing happens, nothing can go wrong. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 31/07/2010 01:57, Rodney Baker wrote:
On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 01:02:29 Peter Nikolic wrote:
[...] What you DO
have to do is to use w-scan to produce a channels.conf file
which you
then use in the command line when you start vlc. If you do
this only
THEN will you get the TV channels which vlc recognises as the
Playlist.
Now i tried w_scan with xine and the file it created made
xine barf in
several places
The thing is this computer is not
only the computer it is my complete
media center TV Radio Music
Video ect so it not working is a
real PITA
Pete
.
BC
It never ceases to amaze me how different installs of
what is supposed to
be the same software seems to behave completely
different from machine to
machine
Pete .
Did you remember to use the -X switch with w_scan to make it produce a xine-compatible channels.conf file? Tested here and works fine.
Incidentally, following Basil's email re vlc, I simply started vlc from a terminal with .xine/channels.conf (the file previously generated by w_scan) as the parameter and vlc read the xine-format channels.conf file and worked fine (but performance seemed slightly worse than kaffeine on the same channels).
You need to tweak vlc a bit - especially when it comes to using interlace or de-interlace for video. Also, and which I am still working on, is the sound when I watch a DVD and using the headphone. With xine you can configure it rather quickly in real time to give you either 5.1 sound or headphones sound - vlc is not as easy although I think I achieved this feat last night :-) . All I now need to do is to remember what I did - and make it "stick" :-) . (I *think* it had something to do with the Equaliser.) BC -- If nothing happens, nothing can go wrong. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 31/07/2010 01:32, Peter Nikolic wrote:
On Friday 30 Jul 2010 12:25:28 Basil Chupin wrote:
On 30/07/2010 17:46, Peter Nikolic wrote:
On Friday 30 Jul 2010 05:30:11 Basil Chupin wrote:
On 28/07/10 00:48, Peter Nikolic wrote:
On Tuesday 27 Jul 2010 14:53:29 Basil Chupin wrote:
On 27/07/10 23:24, Peter Nikolic wrote:
> On Tuesday 27 Jul 2010 12:53:55 Basil Chupin wrote: > >> On 27/07/10 17:12, Peter Nikolic wrote: >> >>> On Tuesday 27 Jul 2010 00:52:17 Rodney Baker wrote: >>> >>>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 19:30:31 Basil Chupin wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 07/07/10 19:37, peter nikolic wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Well this does not bode at all well >>>>>> >>>>>> Kaffeine fails very miserably on the first hurdle try to view >>>>>> TV and i get a quick click of sound no video and a report of >>>>>> kaffeine xbu segmentation fault this is not good at all for >>>>>> what is supposed to be the best around in fact it sucks . >>>>>> >>>>> There is nothing spectacular about kaffeine, Peter, except that >>>>> it can record a program. (I've been waiting for a fix to be >>>>> implemented for around 12 months now after the maintainer said >>>>> he found the reason for the problem I reported :-( .) >>>>> >>>>> I use xine which I find far superior to kaffeine - except that it >>>>> cannot do recordings. >>>>> >>>>> To use xine install xine-ui. Configure xine - if you need some >>>>> info or even my control file then simply ask and I'll send you >>>>> my copy which you can then alter to suit your system. >>>>> >>>>> Also, to watch TV you will need to create a channels.conf file >>>>> for it and the bestest way of doing this is to install w-scan; >>>>> then run "w_scan -c<yy> -X> channels.conf" [1] where<yy> >>>>> is your country's code (like AU is for me) and it will >>>>> generate the conf file for where you live; copy this conf file >>>>> to the ~/.xine directory and away you go with your TV. (BTW, the >>>>> line command I just gave applies for a terrestrial system - and >>>>> you will need to change the "-c" to configure for for cable or >>>>> satellite - read the README for w-scan.) >>>>> >>>>> [1] note the difference between the "-" and the underscore "_" in >>>>> "w-scan" and "w_scan". Also note my use of">" and not the">>" >>>>> used in the README. >>>>> >>>>> BC >>>>> >>>> Basil, >>>> Where did you get w_scan from? I can't find it in any of the >>>> repo's that I have configured (which include packman and vlc) - >>>> running 11.2/KDE4.4.93. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Rodney. >>>> >>> Yes Hi again Basil . >>> >>> i have to admit i had forgotten about w-scan althou xine does scan >>> ok a bit slow and clunky and makes a bit of a mess it works >>> BUT VLC also works and does a nice job of the tv display >>> >> I'm buggered if I can figure out on how to get vlc to recognise the >> TV channels on the DVB-T card :-( . And I cannot find the >> appopriate documentation which would show me how to do this - most >> of the dox appear to be in the "yet to do" category :-( . Perhaps >> something in the mail list of the forum for videolan but as xine is >> working most satisfactorily for me I haven't bothered to go tearing >> my hair out trying to get vlc to do TV. >> > Right then here is what i do to get VLC to show TV > > Open VLC> Media> open capture device > > New window opens > > then the box where it says video for Linux 2 click on that pick DVB > you will then see just below that the DVB adaptor pick DVB s t or c > to suit your card mine is t terristial then at the bottom of the > window you will see a button Play click that it will then clear off a > new small window will open and show the scan progress . > Been there, done that...and this is where the wheels fall off :-( . The scan progresses but no stations are selected! :-( . Zilch. Nothing. :-(
Something is missing but I don't know what.
If I could get the darn thing to actually find the stations during the scan I would be a happy-chappy. kaffeine will do it without any problems; xine will do it with the help of either dvb-utils or w-scan - but not vlc :-( .
BC
Hum well not sure what is missing then this is just a new install of 11.3 x86_64 with the pacman repo updates maybe it is to do with that but it just worked and was likewise on 11.2
Pete .
Well, I solved the problem of not being able to view TV using vlc :-) . I can now see all channels - which also means that I can now replace kaffeine (for the recording of programs) and xine (for TV and DVDs) and use vlc for everything.
BC
Hi Basil ..
What you have to do to get it working ..
i actully had a bit of a strange one with VLC 2 days ago i had scanned for
channels saved the file as a playlist closed it all down called up VLC again and it no way would play any of the BBC channels everything else was fine but no BBC so i rescanned saved that file under another name it missed a lof of stuff (signal levels here can be crap to be polite about it) hacke the 2 files together and all fine loads dead quick changes channel quick still having a dust up with kaffeine but for now VLC is working
To be honest, I really don't know what you mean by "scanning for channels" and "[saving] the file as a playlist".
Hum well the version of VLC i got on here uses a .xspf file which is an XML file
excert from file ..
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?> <playlist version="1" xmlns="http://xspf.org/ns/0/" xmlns:vlc="http://www.videolan.org/vlc/playlist/ns/0/"> <title>Playlist</title> <trackList> <track> <location>dvb://frequency=634333332:bandwidth=8</location> <title>BBC NEWS</title> <extension application="http://www.videolan.org/vlc/playlist/0"> <vlc:id>0</vlc:id> <vlc:option>program=4415</vlc:option> </extension> </track> <track> <location>dvb://frequency=634166670:bandwidth=8</location> <title>BBC ONE</title> <extension application="http://www.videolan.org/vlc/playlist/0"> <vlc:id>1</vlc:id> <vlc:option>program=4165</vlc:option> </extension> </track> <track> <location>dvb://frequency=634333332:bandwidth=8</location> <title>BBC Red Button</title> <extension application="http://www.videolan.org/vlc/playlist/0"> <vlc:id>2</vlc:id> <vlc:option>program=4479</vlc:option> </extension> </track>
then at the end of the file there is
</trackList> <extension application="http://www.videolan.org/vlc/playlist/0"> <vlc:item tid="0" /> <vlc:item tid="1" /> <vlc:item tid="2" /> <vlc:item tid="3" /> <vlc:item tid="4" />
Doing this from within vlc does zilch, nothing, nada, not a sausage is generated - at least for *me*, and unless *you* are also using some magical incantations while doing so (and about which you have been keeping very quiet, you naughty-type man :-) ).
Most strange must be a slight difference somewhere along the line
What you DO have to do is to use w-scan to produce a channels.conf file which you then use in the command line when you start vlc. If you do this only THEN will you get the TV channels which vlc recognises as the Playlist.
Now i tried w_scan with xine and the file it created made xine barf in several places
The thing is this computer is not only the computer it is my complete media center TV Radio Music Video ect so it not working is a real PITA
Pete .
BC
It never ceases to amaze me how different installs of what is supposed to be the same software seems to behave completely different from machine to machine
Pete .
The file you have is in the wrong format. Follow my instructions which I gave in another post earlier today to create the correct channels.conf file in xine format. BC -- If nothing happens, nothing can go wrong. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 07/07/10 19:37, peter nikolic wrote:
Well this does not bode at all well
Oy, Peter! I just saw this.... How about configuring your mailer so that it sends the correct date/time stamp in your messages, eh? :-) . Today is 26 July and your message (and header info) shows "07/07/10". I know that where you live is behind the times, but this is kinda ridiculous.... :-D . BC -- A man kept complaining about not having shoes to wear - until he saw a man with no legs. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 26 Jul 2010 12:51:26 Basil Chupin wrote:
On 07/07/10 19:37, peter nikolic wrote:
Well this does not bode at all well
Oy, Peter!
I just saw this....
How about configuring your mailer so that it sends the correct date/time stamp in your messages, eh? :-) .
Today is 26 July and your message (and header info) shows "07/07/10".
I know that where you live is behind the times, but this is kinda ridiculous.... :-D .
BC Well lets see if this get the date and time correct it is 13:07 local time here
Next thread on it's way Kmail Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.. pete -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 07/07/10 22:08, peter nikolic wrote:
On Monday 26 Jul 2010 12:51:26 Basil Chupin wrote:
On 07/07/10 19:37, peter nikolic wrote:
Well this does not bode at all well
Oy, Peter!
I just saw this....
How about configuring your mailer so that it sends the correct date/time stamp in your messages, eh? :-) .
Today is 26 July and your message (and header info) shows "07/07/10".
I know that where you live is behind the times, but this is kinda ridiculous.... :-D .
BC
Well lets see if this get the date and time correct it is 13:07 local time here
Next thread on it's way Kmail Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr..
pete
:-D See above - nothing has changed: you are still showing "On 07/07/10 ...... peter nikolic wrote:" Back to the drawing-board, Peter.... :-) . Ooow, or better still, use Thunderbird :-) . BC -- A man kept complaining about not having shoes to wear - until he saw a man with no legs. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 26 Jul 2010 13:18:36 Basil Chupin wrote:
On 07/07/10 22:08, peter nikolic wrote:
On Monday 26 Jul 2010 12:51:26 Basil Chupin wrote:
On 07/07/10 19:37, peter nikolic wrote:
Well this does not bode at all well
Oy, Peter!
I just saw this....
How about configuring your mailer so that it sends the correct date/time stamp in your messages, eh? :-) .
Today is 26 July and your message (and header info) shows "07/07/10".
I know that where you live is behind the times, but this is kinda ridiculous.... :-D .
BC
Well lets see if this get the date and time correct it is 13:07 local time here
Next thread on it's way Kmail Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr..
pete : :-D
See above - nothing has changed: you are still showing "On 07/07/10 ...... peter nikolic wrote:"
Back to the drawing-board, Peter.... :-) .
Ooow, or better still, use Thunderbird :-) .
BC time and date testing sholud be right now
pete . -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 26/07/10 22:39, peter nikolic wrote:
On Monday 26 Jul 2010 13:18:36 Basil Chupin wrote:
On 07/07/10 22:08, peter nikolic wrote:
On Monday 26 Jul 2010 12:51:26 Basil Chupin wrote:
On 07/07/10 19:37, peter nikolic wrote:
Well this does not bode at all well
Oy, Peter!
I just saw this....
How about configuring your mailer so that it sends the correct date/time stamp in your messages, eh? :-) .
Today is 26 July and your message (and header info) shows "07/07/10".
I know that where you live is behind the times, but this is kinda ridiculous.... :-D .
BC
Well lets see if this get the date and time correct it is 13:07 local time here
Next thread on it's way Kmail Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr..
pete
: :-D
See above - nothing has changed: you are still showing "On 07/07/10 ...... peter nikolic wrote:"
Back to the drawing-board, Peter.... :-) .
Ooow, or better still, use Thunderbird :-) .
BC
time and date testing sholud be right now
pete .
Heeyyyy....you've got it! :-) . Good work, PN! BC -- A man kept complaining about not having shoes to wear - until he saw a man with no legs. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wed, 7 Jul 2010 19:07:21 peter nikolic wrote:
Well this does not bode at all well
Kaffeine fails very miserably on the first hurdle try to view TV and i get a quick click of sound no video and a report of kaffeine xbu segmentation fault this is not good at all for what is supposed to be the best around in fact it sucks .
where do i get a kaffeine that is going to work or do i have to can 11.3 and go back to 11.2 .
This is just the first of the several (for me absolute show stoppers ) i have found in the first 2 hours of playing with 11.3
not good folks it needed another 2 months of RC before it went GM not good at all
Pete .
Peter, You could do what I did and build the latest svn version of kaffeine from source... -- =================================================== Rodney Baker VK5ZTV rodney.baker@iinet.net.au =================================================== -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 07/07/2010 02:37 AM, peter nikolic wrote:
Well this does not bode at all well
Kaffeine fails very miserably on the first hurdle try to view TV and i get a quick click of sound no video and a report of kaffeine xbu segmentation fault this is not good at all for what is supposed to be the best around in fact it sucks .
where do i get a kaffeine that is going to work or do i have to can 11.3 and go back to 11.2 .
This is just the first of the several (for me absolute show stoppers ) i have found in the first 2 hours of playing with 11.3
not good folks it needed another 2 months of RC before it went GM not good at all
Pete .
Hi Peter, I haven't seen any issues yet. The printer setup is confusing, but that was in 11.2 too. As for viewing TV, why don't you try tvtime? I've been using it for years. It doesn't capture video, but it does capture single-frame snapshots. http://tvtime.sourceforge.net/why.html It's in the openSuSE distribution too. Regards, Lew -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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