[opensuse] Pfeifer's Proposal on [opensuse-announce] for "Closing the Leap Gap"
All, I'm not sure who all follows the [opensuse-announce] list here but Gerald Pfeifer posted a proposal under the thread "[opensuse-announce] Bringing Leap and SUSE Linux Enterprise closer together - a proposal" that is worth a read for all openSUSE advocates. It makes a great deal of sense if it will result in a reduction time spent between the two project essentially maintaining similar aspects of the distro. All above my openSUSE pay-grade, but worth staying abreast of things that could impact the distro as early as 15.2 -- especially when it looks like it could be a good impact. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Op donderdag 16 april 2020 03:44:11 CEST schreef David C. Rankin:
All,
I'm not sure who all follows the [opensuse-announce] list here but Gerald Pfeifer posted a proposal under the thread
"[opensuse-announce] Bringing Leap and SUSE Linux Enterprise closer together - a proposal"
that is worth a read for all openSUSE advocates. It makes a great deal of sense if it will result in a reduction time spent between the two project essentially maintaining similar aspects of the distro. All above my openSUSE pay-grade, but worth staying abreast of things that could impact the distro as early as 15.2 -- especially when it looks like it could be a good impact. It will have some impact: Leap 15.2 will be delayed by ~8 weeks. For those interested, please follow the factory and project mailing lists.
-- Gertjan Lettink a.k.a. Knurpht openSUSE Forums Team -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Thu, 16 Apr 2020 04:15:50 +0200 Knurpht-openSUSE <knurpht@opensuse.org> wrote:
All,
I'm not sure who all follows the [opensuse-announce] list here but Gerald Pfeifer posted a proposal under the thread
"[opensuse-announce] Bringing Leap and SUSE Linux Enterprise closer together - a proposal"
that is worth a read for all openSUSE advocates. It makes a great deal of sense if it will result in a reduction time spent between the two project essentially maintaining similar aspects of the distro. All above my openSUSE pay-grade, but worth staying abreast of things that could impact the distro as early as 15.2 -- especially when it looks like it could be a good impact. It will have some impact: Leap 15.2 will be delayed by ~8 weeks. For
Op donderdag 16 april 2020 03:44:11 CEST schreef David C. Rankin: those interested, please follow the factory and project mailing lists.
Rats! That throws my whole strategy up in the air. I just want a quiet life with minimal hassle from the OS I run. So given we're now just three weeks from the planned 15.2 release I thought I was pretty safe in planning to move from 15.0 to 15.2 and hopefully get a pretty problem-free migration. But now I seem to be facing a wait increased by three times, for a release that is now to be the first example of a new, untested process, not the relatvely safe second minor update I expected. So I would suggest (although I know it will have no effect) that 15.2 is released as planned in a few weeks and then you/they/whoever pull apart all the mechanisms and start building new unproven systems with a lot more time in hand. Who on earth thought that last minute changes to projects were a good idea? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Hi On 4/16/20 9:31 PM, Dave Howorth wrote:
On Thu, 16 Apr 2020 04:15:50 +0200 Knurpht-openSUSE <knurpht@opensuse.org> wrote:
All,
I'm not sure who all follows the [opensuse-announce] list here but Gerald Pfeifer posted a proposal under the thread
"[opensuse-announce] Bringing Leap and SUSE Linux Enterprise closer together - a proposal"
that is worth a read for all openSUSE advocates. It makes a great deal of sense if it will result in a reduction time spent between the two project essentially maintaining similar aspects of the distro. All above my openSUSE pay-grade, but worth staying abreast of things that could impact the distro as early as 15.2 -- especially when it looks like it could be a good impact. It will have some impact: Leap 15.2 will be delayed by ~8 weeks. For
Op donderdag 16 april 2020 03:44:11 CEST schreef David C. Rankin: those interested, please follow the factory and project mailing lists.
Rats!
That throws my whole strategy up in the air. I just want a quiet life with minimal hassle from the OS I run. So given we're now just three weeks from the planned 15.2 release I thought I was pretty safe in planning to move from 15.0 to 15.2 and hopefully get a pretty problem-free migration.
But now I seem to be facing a wait increased by three times, for a release that is now to be the first example of a new, untested process, not the relatvely safe second minor update I expected.
So I would suggest (although I know it will have no effect) that 15.2 is released as planned in a few weeks and then you/they/whoever pull apart all the mechanisms and start building new unproven systems with a lot more time in hand. Who on earth thought that last minute changes to projects were a good idea?
Most of these last too paragraphs are incorrect, Leap 15.2 will still be released with the current development model, most of the slip in release schedule is caused by the SLE side, where SLE packages are being adapted to be more similar to there openSUSE counterparts (and a few packages the other way) but this won't cause any significant changes for 15.2 Sometime after 15.2 is released a test project currently codenamed "Jump" will be created as a proof of concept of the new model using the SLE-15 SP2 + Leap 15.2 binaries. If we are happy with how the "Jump" model works and are confident that all the issues have been resolved the "Jump" development model will likely be used to create 15.3, so you shouldn't expect to need to deal with any form of changes until July 2021 when 15.3 is released (Unless you want to help test the Jump prototype). By the time the change is made in 15.3 hopefully all the major issues will have been resolved. The delay now is to make sure that the SLE and openSUSE packages are in a suitable state to create a jump prototype after the 15.2 release. Cheers -- Simon Lees (Simotek) http://simotek.net Emergency Update Team keybase.io/simotek SUSE Linux Adelaide Australia, UTC+10:30 GPG Fingerprint: 5B87 DB9D 88DC F606 E489 CEC5 0922 C246 02F0 014B
On 04/16/2020 07:01 AM, Dave Howorth wrote:
Rats!
That throws my whole strategy up in the air. I just want a quiet life with minimal hassle from the OS I run. So given we're now just three weeks from the planned 15.2 release I thought I was pretty safe in planning to move from 15.0 to 15.2 and hopefully get a pretty problem-free migration.
Same boat, No biggie, if needed, we can always update a package or two in the interim. (though so far, I haven't had any I've had to page out yet -- I only connect to the internet at home or at work -- no public spaces, so that minimizes some of the concerns) -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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