Aaron Kulkis wrote:

Jake Conk wrote:

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Hello,

I have openSUSE setup right now on my machine that has 2 mirrored 80gb disks. I just got another disk 80gb disk but I would like to install windows on it. My question is, is it possible to install windows on that new disk without it taking off my grub? I know most multiboot setups that include windows always say install windows first then install linux so it can auto detect your windows partition and setup grub accordingly but in my case I already have linux setup and want to install windows while keeping suse's grub menu. Is this possible and how?

If you install Windows, it will GLEEFULLY overwrite your MBR, forcing you to repair your Linux install.

Just partition your disk first with the SuSe install disk, then install Windows, and lastly, Install Linux.

I have OpenSuSE 10.2, Windows XP, and Kubuntu 7.10 installed on three different disks. The only one that knows the other two are there is Kubuntu. OpenSuSE and XP are on SATA drives while Kubuntu is on a PATA drive. When installing I disconnect all the drives but the one I want to install on. The trick to doing this is to have a boot loader outside the normal system. If your computer has a built in boot loader in the bios, as mine is, your good to go. If you don't, well, you might look around for a boot loader that can be used outside Linux or Windows. OR, possibly change the boot order in the bios. -- (o:]>*HUGGLES*<[:o) Billie Walsh The three best words in the English Language: I LOVE YOU Pass them on. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On 10/26/2007 Doug McGarrett wrote:

I think this is not what the original writer had in mind. He'd like to _keep_ his Linux install. What if he disconnected the drive(s) with Linux on them, and then installed Windows on a clean drive. Supposesdly, you can multiboot from a Windows installation, but I don't know how. Then instead of Grub, you'd use the Windows multibooter to access Linux.

--doug

In a way this is exactly what he wants to do. He wants to install Windows on a new "clean" drive without destroying his Linux install. OK, unplug the Linux drives. Install Windows. Plug in the Linux drives. Boot to Linux. Run the boot loader configuration and set it up to boot the Windows drive as a choice. At least that's the way I understand his situation. Alternatively, IF he has a boot loader already in his bios he won't need to set up anything after the Windows install. Simply use the built in boot loader to boot whichever drive has the OS he wants to boot. OR He could use a third party boot loader, outside the normal operating systems, to boot whichever drive he wants at startup. Actually, couldn't be simpler. -- (o:]>*HUGGLES*<[:o) Billie Walsh The three best words in the English Language: I LOVE YOU Pass them on. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 * Mike McMullin <mwmcmlln@mnsi.net> [10-27-07 00:49]:

My apologies for nit-picking here. When Windows(tm) writes the MBR, it does not "break" the Linux install, hence Linux doesn't need to be repaired, but to have the boot loader configured to boot Linux.

No problem with "nit-picking", but *some* windoz(tm?) versions *do* over-write the MBR and "break" the boot-loader for linux. The more recent versions do not. I can say that I have not had/experienced that problem for quite a few years, since os/2 I have not owned a version of windoz. - -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://counter.li.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn4472 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHIxsXClSjbQz1U5oRAgwyAKCaFhAsxUHKRFJsoOeyuaqXMKxcxACgj1iW GSMbHvtfzmdJdXm6uUgg3Rs= =nI5O -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On 2007/10/31 13:42 (GMT-0400) Aaron Kulkis apparently typed:

Mike McMullin wrote:

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My apologies for nit-picking here. When Windows(tm) writes the MBR, it does not "break" the Linux install,

What version did that change with?

Every version I've seen, including the XP Government version attempts to destroy any non-MS O/S on target disk.

Win95 AFAIK. No version I've tried has ever found it necessary to disrupt any type 82 or 83 partition made in conformance to standard M$ starts at start of cylinder, ends at end of cylinder partition format - as long as it was provided an appropriate place to put itself. Normally I partition prior to beginning ANY type of installation, and doz simply does not complain when it finds an active primary it can use, or in addition a logical FAT, FAT32 or NTFS that I tell it to install to. If it's destroying some pre-existing partitioning, it must be because you've offered it no suitable place to put itself. Installing doz first is not necessary, and indeed not always even possible. http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/install-doz-after.html -- "The basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teachings we get from Exodus and St. Matthew, from Isaiah and St. Paul. President Harry S. Truman Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Adding to this message, even if you have the original Suse CD, as long as it's 10.1 or so, there is an option after the initial boot up from CD that allows you to check your system, there in an option in there to check grub and the system repairs it, only gotcha is that recreates the menu.lst accordingly to the original and then if you had more than one configuration it would erase, so make a backup of your menu.lst before you go ahead with this. Cheers Jose Michael Skiba wrote:

Am Freitag, 26. Oktober 2007 12:14:41 schrieb Jake Conk:

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Hello,

I have openSUSE setup right now on my machine that has 2 mirrored 80gb disks. I just got another disk 80gb disk but I would like to install windows on it. My question is, is it possible to install windows on that new disk without it taking off my grub? I know most multiboot setups that include windows always say install windows first then install linux so it can auto detect your windows partition and setup grub accordingly but in my case I already have linux setup and want to install windows while keeping suse's grub menu. Is this possible and how?

You should be able to install Windows after Linux too, however it's easier, more comfortable and safer, when you do it first. As I get from your description, I can understand you didn't installed it in the first place, but want to have it as alternative now.

When you install windows you can be sure it will screw up grub, in other words kill and replace it, however this isn't such a big problem if you've a Linux liveCD and can access the old system to re-do the grub install part, also you'll have to add the windows boot entry by hand but that shouldn't be a big deal either.

Greetings Michael

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