[SLE] update issues - a plea for advise
Greets; My current 10.1 install seems to be rather funky when it comes to updating necessary patches. At first zms system went almost 10 days without and update. So I turned it off and associated dependencies and tried to update via the old yast system. Well this only partially worked and crapped out due to "dependency issues" for exactly what. OK., no problem turned the Novell zms system back on via yast and yesterday it gave me 10 or more patches of which 3, cron being one, were found to be incompatible. Today, there were 20 some patches and the incompatible ones were all related to Novell zms update system. This is a brand new install (running in KDE not gnome) and there should be no issues at all. I dont get this as Ive used suse since 5.2 religiousely and never have I had and update issue of any kind. Yes there were broken versions of yast along the way but it seemed to be all sorted out. So my question are as follows; 1. Can I turn off Novells-zms system and use yast only to get update patches. 2. If not, how in the world does the new system work. 3. Could it be that I am in KDE and that it has gnome specifics and dependancies to work properly as this is now the officially supported flavour. Thanks for any help you can send this way. Best regards /ch -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
On Thursday 15 June 2006 9:54 am, Chris Herrnberger wrote:
Greets;
My current 10.1 install seems to be rather funky when it comes to updating necessary patches. At first zms system went almost 10 days without and update.
Get just the libzypp update and apply that only. You can then either do, as root, 'rczmd restart' or reboot. Then check out the other updates. This is crucial to get the libzypp applied _and only_ libzypp at this time. Note: I did a fresh install off the retail 10.1 DVD this past weekend to blast the hard drive and repartition for SUSE Linux only and the very first YOU update had just libzypp chosen. I knew to _only_ do that one update, reboot or rczmd restart, and then get other updates. Works great. None of the original problems with the new updater happened. So that issue is fixed well enough for any new install these days. I haven't tried an upgrade from SUSE Linux 10.0 to know if the new package management, software updater works there too.
So my question are as follows;
1. Can I turn off Novells-zms system and use yast only to get update patches.
Sure. Not really an issue once you get the current libzypp update done.
2. If not, how in the world does the new system work.
Not well until you get the new libzypp update installed. Then it works much better. Not perfect yet but SUSE is working to resolve those other issues such as performance, more information displayed, etc.
3. Could it be that I am in KDE and that it has gnome specifics and dependancies to work properly as this is now the officially supported flavour.
No. Doesn't matter which window manager you use. Would be the same issue for XFce, Enlightenment, TWM, etc.
Thanks for any help you can send this way.
Best regards
/ch
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On Thursday 15 June 2006 12:14, S Glasoe wrote:
On Thursday 15 June 2006 9:54 am, Chris Herrnberger wrote:
Greets;
My current 10.1 install seems to be rather funky when it comes to updating necessary patches. At first zms system went almost 10 days without and update.
Thanks for your detailed response. But where do I get this patch and install it with yast or zms? Many thanks /ch -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
On Thursday 15 June 2006 7:28 pm, Chris Herrnberger wrote:
On Thursday 15 June 2006 12:14, S Glasoe wrote:
On Thursday 15 June 2006 9:54 am, Chris Herrnberger wrote:
Greets;
My current 10.1 install seems to be rather funky when it comes to updating necessary patches. At first zms system went almost 10 days without and update.
Thanks for your detailed response. But where do I get this patch and install it with yast or zms?
Many thanks
/ch
Oh sure, get all technical on me. Blatant plagiarism from a Carl Hartung posting over on openSUSE mail list on May 18th: ------------ You'll want to add sources for the following: Base: http://{mirror}/pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-10.1/inst-source Non-OSS 'Add-on' packages: http://{mirror}/pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-10.1/non-oss-inst-source Updates (bug fixes & security patches): ftp://{mirror}/pub/suse/i386/update/10.1 Suser-guru: http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/index.php Packman: http://packman.links2linux.com/ Optional 'supplementary' KDE upgrade (not "official" or "supported"): ftp://{mirror}/suse/i386/supplementary/KDE/update_for_10.1/yast-source The page to start looking for nearby mirrors is here: http://en.opensuse.org/Mirrors_Released_Version --------------------- Stick with the first three Base, Non-OSS and Updates right away. Updates is the critical one for libzypp. The others are nice to have but not required right now so save them for a later time. I have not verified any but the first three as still good URLs. Substitute {mirror} with ftp.gwdg.de for example. Stan -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
On Thursday 15 June 2006 7:28 pm, Chris Herrnberger wrote:
On Thursday 15 June 2006 12:14, S Glasoe wrote:
On Thursday 15 June 2006 9:54 am, Chris Herrnberger wrote:
Greets;
My current 10.1 install seems to be rather funky when it comes to updating necessary patches. At first zms system went almost 10 days without and update.
Thanks for your detailed response. But where do I get this patch and install it with yast or zms?
Many thanks
/ch
I've used smart and YaST's YOU but zmd would work also _if_ you only choose the libzypp stuff. Easiest would be YOU (YaST Online Update) after adding those repositories. Stan -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
On Thursday 15 June 2006 23:58, S Glasoe wrote:
I've used smart and YaST's YOU but zmd would work also _if_ you only choose the libzypp stuff. Easiest would be YOU (YaST Online Update) after adding those repositories.
Thanks for all your help Stan, sorted most of it out. The only remaining issue is that despite YAST having latest updates, it will not accept a directory as an install source. Must be a bug..:) /ch -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
This is what I did, and it solved my zmd /you problems. Go to ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/update/10.1/rpm/i586 Download libzypp-1.2.0-1.1.i586.rpm libzypp-zmd-backend-7.1.1.0-42.21.i586.rpm ruby-zypp-0.0-8.1.i586.rpm rug-7.1.1.0-18.9.i586.rpm yast2-2.13.61-0.2.i586.rpm yast2-core-2.13.22-1.2.i586.rpm yast2-ncurses-2.13.36-1.2.i586.rpm yast2-packager-2.13.125-0.2.i586.rpm yast2-perl-bindings-2.13.4-17.1.i586.rpm yast2-pkg-bindings-2.13.82-1.2.i586.rpm yast2-qt-2.13.60-0.2.i586.rpm zen-updater-7.1.0-51.13.i586.rpm zmd-7.1.1.0-39.15.i586.rpm Install rpm -Uvh --force *.rpm and everything should be ok. fx -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
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