[opensuse] compiz fusion productivity benefit anyone?

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Eberhard Roloff

4 Nov 2007 4 Nov '07

10:52

Hi, After some struggle with my old ATI, I am now on a newer Nvidia. The installation of Nvidia Drivers and Compiz Fusion worked great via One Click install from opensuse.org. Frankly, it took not much more than an hour on SUSE 10.3/32bit/KDE, to be on and fabulously going again. Time to say thank you. Thanks much to anyone that made such an installation so effortless and perfectly working!! It even makes Windows Vista Aero looking pale and oldfashioned. Now I am enjoying a cube, have windows wobbling around and rain sometimes falling on my applications and much, much more. However, after playing around for a few fascinating hours, I am still unsure, whether this can be used "profitably" on a daily basis. Is there anyone using some of the Compiz features daily in and out and did you experience some increase in your productivity? Thanks much for help Eberhard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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Chee How Chua

4 Nov 4 Nov

11:33

New subject: [opensuse] compiz fusion productivity benefit anyone?

On 11/4/07, Eberhard Roloff wrote:

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Hi,

After some struggle with my old ATI, I am now on a newer Nvidia. The installation of Nvidia Drivers and Compiz Fusion worked great via One Click install from opensuse.org.

Frankly, it took not much more than an hour on SUSE 10.3/32bit/KDE, to be on and fabulously going again.

Time to say thank you. Thanks much to anyone that made such an installation so effortless and perfectly working!! It even makes Windows Vista Aero looking pale and oldfashioned.

Now I am enjoying a cube, have windows wobbling around and rain sometimes falling on my applications and much, much more.

However, after playing around for a few fascinating hours, I am still unsure, whether this can be used "profitably" on a daily basis.

Is there anyone using some of the Compiz features daily in and out and did you experience some increase in your productivity?

Thanks much for help Eberhard

For me, yes. I usually have multiple applications open at the same time - Eclipse, Firefox, Konsole, OO Writer, sometimes Amarok, Konqueror. It makes it a lot easier if I can get a glance which are the applications that are open on a particular desktop. Alt-tabbing is ok, but there comes a time where it is one tab too many. And sometimes you want to get a reference on one window while you type something in another. Alt-tabbing can be really tiring and resizing windows is too much trouble. Here is where transparency is really useful. I've used it on more occasions than I think I would. When doing presentation, I like the zoom in function alot as well. A good opportunity to show off my laptop while providing a really useful feature. Kudos to all the Compiz developers for developing such a neat feature. I'd like to say thank you here as well. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Anders Johansson

13:09

On Sunday 04 November 2007 11:52:35 Eberhard Roloff wrote:

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However, after playing around for a few fascinating hours, I am still unsure, whether this can be used "profitably" on a daily basis.

I've heard beginning users state that with the cube, they can finally start using virtual desktops (not in those words, but you get my meaning)

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Is there anyone using some of the Compiz features daily in and out and did you experience some increase in your productivity?

The live thumbnails of windows is something I find incredibly useful, as is the real transparency. I can do without the wobbling and animated window effects, but they are fun to look at :) One feature I found very very nice in Beryl was the vidcap plugin. I haven't seen it yet for compiz fusion, but I sincerely hope it comes back Anders -- Madness takes its toll -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Kevin Dupuy

19:48

On Sun, 2007-11-04 at 14:09 +0100, Anders Johansson wrote:

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On Sunday 04 November 2007 11:52:35 Eberhard Roloff wrote:

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However, after playing around for a few fascinating hours, I am still unsure, whether this can be used "profitably" on a daily basis.

I've heard beginning users state that with the cube, they can finally start using virtual desktops (not in those words, but you get my meaning)

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Is there anyone using some of the Compiz features daily in and out and did you experience some increase in your productivity?

The live thumbnails of windows is something I find incredibly useful, as is the real transparency. I can do without the wobbling and animated window effects, but they are fun to look at :)

One feature I found very very nice in Beryl was the vidcap plugin. I haven't seen it yet for compiz fusion, but I sincerely hope it comes back

Anders

-- Madness takes its toll

I agree with you, Anders. I've been using Compiz since I first installed 10.2 late last year, and I didn't think it would actually help me work, but it did. Especially the cube, and the "scale" function. I'm waiting for Fusion to become a little more stable before I start using it, but I would like the extra eye-candy that comes with reflective cube floors and the Expo plugin. -- Kevin Dupuy Yo.media -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Joseph Loo

23:12

On Sun, 2007-11-04 at 13:48 -0600, Kevin Dupuy wrote:

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On Sun, 2007-11-04 at 14:09 +0100, Anders Johansson wrote:

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On Sunday 04 November 2007 11:52:35 Eberhard Roloff wrote:

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However, after playing around for a few fascinating hours, I am still unsure, whether this can be used "profitably" on a daily basis.

I've heard beginning users state that with the cube, they can finally start using virtual desktops (not in those words, but you get my meaning)

...
Is there anyone using some of the Compiz features daily in and out and did you experience some increase in your productivity?

The live thumbnails of windows is something I find incredibly useful, as is the real transparency. I can do without the wobbling and animated window effects, but they are fun to look at :)

One feature I found very very nice in Beryl was the vidcap plugin. I haven't seen it yet for compiz fusion, but I sincerely hope it comes back

Anders

-- Madness takes its toll

I agree with you, Anders. I've been using Compiz since I first installed 10.2 late last year, and I didn't think it would actually help me work, but it did. Especially the cube, and the "scale" function.

I'm waiting for Fusion to become a little more stable before I start using it, but I would like the extra eye-candy that comes with reflective cube floors and the Expo plugin. -- Kevin Dupuy Yo.media

I like the slatehorn under emerald. This allows window shading. It provides a little more room in the window to work with multiple windows on a viewport. -- Joseph Loo jloo@acm.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Teruel de Campo MD

14:30

On Sun, 2007-11-04 at 11:52 +0100, Eberhard Roloff wrote:

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Is there anyone using some of the Compiz features daily in and out and did you experience some increase in your productivity?

Eberhard, I do use Compiz-Fusion in regular basis. I have it in my laptop and desktop and I run under business conditions. I do presentation with it. The polyhedron make me more productive when I have to "compose" works. Can you go back to the single application Dos times?. Well this one is another steps beyond the 2d multiple applications in a single windows. The multiple desktops was the first most primitive approach. The 3D + transparency make very easy to use and move what you need it. (disable lightning to be able to see the back of the application well). For presentations you can have Impress going through slides and turn the cube and have video player showing a clip or movie etc. It opens a whole new area of possibilities. At home I run the laptop with mythtv wireless in one side and work in the other. Whenever interesting I flip the cube. Ciao -=terry(Denver)=- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Eberhard Roloff

5 Nov 5 Nov

15:30

New subject: [opensuse] Re: compiz fusion productivity benefit anyone?

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On Sun, 2007-11-04 at 11:52 +0100, Eberhard Roloff wrote:

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Is there anyone using some of the Compiz features daily in and out and did you experience some increase in your productivity?

Eberhard,

I do use Compiz-Fusion in regular basis. I have it in my laptop and desktop and I run under business conditions. I do presentation with it. The polyhedron make me more productive when I have to "compose" works. Can you go back to the single application Dos times?. Well this one is another steps beyond the 2d multiple applications in a single windows. The multiple desktops was the first most primitive approach. The 3D + transparency make very easy to use and move what you need it. (disable lightning to be able to see the back of the application well). For presentations you can have Impress going through slides and turn the cube and have video player showing a clip or movie etc. It opens a whole new area of possibilities. At home I run the laptop with mythtv wireless in one side and work in the other. Whenever interesting I flip the cube. Ciao

-=terry(Denver)=-

Teruel de Campo MD wrote: thanks anyone for your valuable input. I learned that one can really benefit from compiz and indeed, I am learning to love it. However I found that compiz fusion on KDE/10.3/32 works rather stably, but somehow from time to time, there are strange side effects. For example I cannot start applications anymore (with no error message at all) or that ending the X seesion takes forever and things like this. So I decided to have a frequent eye on it but wait with permanent usage until it works as perfect as KDE already does without compiz improvements. Thanks again and kind regards Eberhard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Eberhard Roloff

6 Nov 6 Nov

10:27

New subject: [opensuse] Re: compiz fusion productivity benefit anyone?

Eberhard Roloff wrote:

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thanks anyone for your valuable input. I learned that one can really benefit from compiz and indeed, I am learning to love it.

However I found that compiz fusion on KDE/10.3/32 works rather stably, but somehow from time to time, there are strange side effects. For example I cannot start applications anymore (with no error message at all) or that ending the X seesion takes forever and things like this.

So I decided to have a frequent eye on it but wait with permanent usage until it works as perfect as KDE already does without compiz improvements.

Thanks again and kind regards Eberhard

Hi, I reconsidered. After installing xorg 7.3, I do not have the aforementioned trouble with compiz fusion anymore. So for now, I am happily working "cubed" Kind regards Eberhard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Chee How Chua

16:01

New subject: [opensuse] Re: compiz fusion productivity benefit anyone?

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Hi,

I reconsidered.

After installing xorg 7.3, I do not have the aforementioned trouble with compiz fusion anymore.

So for now, I am happily working "cubed"

Kind regards Eberhard

Hi, Can I know how do you install xorg 7.3? Is it in the stable repository or the Factory? Thanks. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Ben Kevan

18:58

New subject: [opensuse] Re: compiz fusion productivity benefit anyone?

On Tuesday 06 November 2007 08:01:54 am Chee How Chua wrote:

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Hi,

I reconsidered.

After installing xorg 7.3, I do not have the aforementioned trouble with compiz fusion anymore.

So for now, I am happily working "cubed"

Kind regards Eberhard

Hi,

Can I know how do you install xorg 7.3? Is it in the stable repository or the Factory?

Thanks.

sudo zypper ar http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/xorg73/openSUSE_10.3/ "openSUSE BuildService - Xorg 7.3" ^ All one line sudo zypper up -t package -r "openSUSE BuildService - Xorg 7.3" Since it is a BuildService there are certain risks, so if you install from buildservice be sure you know how to revert back "just in case" I've had to do it several times, especilly with the Xorg BuildService. Ben -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Chee How Chua

8 Nov 8 Nov

11:26

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sudo zypper ar http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/xorg73/openSUSE_10.3/ "openSUSE BuildService - Xorg 7.3"

^ All one line

sudo zypper up -t package -r "openSUSE BuildService - Xorg 7.3"

Since it is a BuildService there are certain risks, so if you install from buildservice be sure you know how to revert back "just in case" I've had to do it several times, especilly with the Xorg BuildService.

Ben --

So, how does one revert? There is no option in zypper to downgrade a package. Uninstall xorg 7.3 and then reinstall 7.2 from runlevel 3? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Ben Kevan

16:24

New subject: [opensuse] Re: compiz fusion productivity benefit anyone?

On Thursday 08 November 2007 03:26:49 am Chee How Chua wrote:

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sudo zypper ar http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/xorg73/openSUSE_10.3/ "openSUSE BuildService - Xorg 7.3"

^ All one line

sudo zypper up -t package -r "openSUSE BuildService - Xorg 7.3"

Since it is a BuildService there are certain risks, so if you install from buildservice be sure you know how to revert back "just in case" I've had to do it several times, especilly with the Xorg BuildService.

Ben --

So, how does one revert? There is no option in zypper to downgrade a package.

Uninstall xorg 7.3 and then reinstall 7.2 from runlevel 3?

Good question. I am guessing you can do zypper up -r "Main Repo Alias", but I am not sure if it would downgrade. You could always open YaST and pick the old 7.2 Packages from the main OSS Repo or DVD / CD. I am running 7.3 from the repo and "am loving it". :o) Ben -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Eberhard Roloff

6 Nov 6 Nov

19:00

New subject: [opensuse] Re: compiz fusion productivity benefit anyone?

Chee How Chua wrote:

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Hi,

I reconsidered.

After installing xorg 7.3, I do not have the aforementioned trouble with compiz fusion anymore.

So for now, I am happily working "cubed"

Kind regards Eberhard

Hi,

Can I know how do you install xorg 7.3? Is it in the stable repository or the Factory?

Thanks. Hi,

sure. I do not know if it is stable, but imho it is not factory, since it is labelled "10.3". ;-)) Anyway, I used this Server: ftp-1.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/repositories/xorg73/openSUSE_10.3 (Btw., I am sure, that this repository is mirrored elsewhere and worldwide.) I added the gwdg.de url shown to my "Software Repositories" in Yast. Then I simply updated "all packages, if update is available" in Yast/Software Management. Among the updates were all xorg 7.3 packages, as far as I can see. Again, it works much better for me on 10.3/32bit/Nvida 7600GS silent But even after a full day of "cube", I am hesitant to guarantee for anything. Kind regards Eberhard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Sloan

17:57

New subject: [opensuse] Re: compiz fusion productivity benefit anyone?

Eberhard Roloff wrote:

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Eberhard Roloff wrote:

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thanks anyone for your valuable input. I learned that one can really benefit from compiz and indeed, I am learning to love it.

However I found that compiz fusion on KDE/10.3/32 works rather stably, but somehow from time to time, there are strange side effects. For example I cannot start applications anymore (with no error message at all) or that ending the X seesion takes forever and things like this.

So I decided to have a frequent eye on it but wait with permanent usage until it works as perfect as KDE already does without compiz improvements.

Thanks again and kind regards Eberhard

Hi,

I reconsidered.

After installing xorg 7.3, I do not have the aforementioned trouble with compiz fusion anymore.

I checked out compiz fusion, but in all honesty, it's not yet as nice as beryl was. I don't get the same performance that I did with beryl, and it's not as convenient to figure everything out. There also seem to be some residual bugs. So, I removed all the compiz packages and decided to go with just the kde built-in effects, and those are actually quite nice - add superkaramba and that is some nice eye candy indeed. Joe -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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Joseph Loo
Kevin Dupuy
Sloan
Teruel de Campo MD