jdd wrote:

Boyd Lynn Gerber wrote:

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- Q&A - from bgerber: Small memory foot print? I would like to have a version of SUSE Linux with a small memory installation. I know there are small memory versions, but I like the whole feel of SUSE Linux and would like a version to run on old systems. Could this be a community effort with some assistance from SUSE Developers? Guides on what to do?

Sorry, I got a call from a client during the IRC Meeting. I had to assist them. They were in a panic and could not wait. I will post more on this after I create a wiki page with the proposal/ideas.

may be in this corner?

http://en.opensuse.org/SLICK/BASE_CD_project

jdd

It is probably good idea to start from scratch. SLICK has footprint in the Internet and it would make confusion. The goals are not the same. What we have in mind is way lesser changes to SUSE concept than SLICK published. There is beginning of http://en.opensuse.org/MicroSUSE that might be one good option, for the name selection (MiniSUSE for instance) and as a base for ideas. -- Regards, Rajko. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-help@opensuse.org

jdd wrote:

Rajko M wrote:

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What we have in mind is way lesser changes to SUSE concept than SLICK published. There is beginning of http://en.opensuse.org/MicroSUSE that might be one good option, for the name selection (MiniSUSE for instance) and as a base for ideas.

microsuse was an embedded system, nothing to di with a small suse to install everywhere AFAIK

The point was on "base for ideas". Look MicroSUSE "To do" list, it seems to be the right thing for underpowered systems. Todays embedded system has power of yesterdays PC. So there will be a well of ideas how to shrink standard SUSE. The size that I look for is more large Mini than real Micro :-) -- Regards, Rajko. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-help@opensuse.org

jdd wrote:

Rajko M wrote:

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The point was on "base for ideas". Look MicroSUSE "To do" list, it seems to be the right thing for underpowered systems. Todays embedded system has power of yesterdays PC. So there will be a well of ideas how to shrink standard SUSE.

embedded are ROM, thus no install :-)

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The size that I look for is more large Mini than real Micro :-)

the first idea is to have a very minimal system installed (text mode with yast).

once passed the install problem, it could be possible to find a way to install every wanted thing. Xfce is a very good candidate. but even kde works

we can sometime afford to be slow, the install problem is that it don't install at all :-(

jdd

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Embedded was ROM once upon a time. The iPod is embedded system, and you can write fine all over. There is even project that is replacing original software (firmware) with something similar to MicroSUSE: http://ipodlinux.org/Main_Page I really don't want to go from scratch with MicroSUSE, not for this project. What I have in mind is the same as you, to analyze installation and see if it can work with lesser memory. It has to, if Knoppix can run on 96MB, SUSE must be able to install and run even from lesser with swap, just good selection of software. BTW, that is the reason I would like to call it MiniSUSE. It is SUSE and if you want install all standard software from normal repositories, with standard tools. The only change I would like to see would be to make some software available in smaller configurations, stripped of some aesthetic and seldom used functionality, to de-bloat it. The SLICK was about much more changes. You can see this in page history. -- Regards, Rajko. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-help@opensuse.org

Boyd Lynn Gerber wrote:

On Wed, 5 Jul 2006, Rajko M wrote:

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The point was on "base for ideas". Look MicroSUSE "To do" list, it seems to be the right thing for underpowered systems. Todays embedded system has power of yesterdays PC. So there will be a well of ideas how to shrink standard SUSE. embedded are ROM, thus no install :-) The size that I look for is more large Mini than real Micro :-)

Rajko M wrote: the first idea is to have a very minimal system installed (text mode with yast).

once passed the install problem, it could be possible to find a way to install every wanted thing. Xfce is a very good candidate. but even kde works

we can sometime afford to be slow, the install problem is that it don't install at all :-( ... I really don't want to go from scratch with MicroSUSE, not for this

jdd wrote: project. What I have in mind is the same as you, to analyze installation and see if it can work with lesser memory. It has to, if Knoppix can run on 96MB, SUSE must be able to install and run even from lesser with swap, just good selection of software.

BTW, that is the reason I would like to call it MiniSUSE. It is SUSE and if you want install all standard software from normal repositories, with standard tools. The only change I would like to see would be to make some software available in smaller configurations, stripped of some aesthetic and seldom used functionality, to de-bloat it. The SLICK was about much more changes. You can see this in page history.

So Lets's start a MiniSUSE project. I like this name the best.

-- Boyd Gerber ZENEZ 1042 East Fort Union #135, Midvale Utah 84047

That's fast! http://en.opensuse.org/MiniSUSE -- Regards, Rajko. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-help@opensuse.org