I updated my ThinkPad to 15.6 several weeks ago. It went well. However, whenever the software updates runs, it lists kernel default, default extra and default optional version 6.4.0-150600.21.3. When I try to install those, I get an error "Update Error There is no update candidate for ..." However, Yast software management shows 6.4.0-150600.23.7.3 is installed. Any idea how to clear this? Why it's trying to install old versions? tnx jk
James Knott composed on 2024-07-10 14:00 (UTC-0400):
I updated my ThinkPad to 15.6 several weeks ago. It went well. However, whenever the software updates runs, it lists kernel default, default extra and default optional version 6.4.0-150600.21.3. When I try to install those, I get an error "Update Error There is no update candidate for ..." However, Yast software management shows 6.4.0-150600.23.7.3 is installed.
Any idea how to clear this? Why it's trying to install old versions?
Do you have knowledge of actual need for any of what kernel-default-extra or kernel-default-optional provide? If you know you don't, they're just space wasters. Remove them, then lock them, to prevent future installation. If you know you do, or do not know, try from Konsole: zypper ref && zypper up This could end the problem that DE updaters do not feature competent resolvers, which produces the error message you're encountering. If you don't know whether you need -optional or -extra, find out. To do so, install a kernel-default alone, without its corresponding -extra or -optional, (or boot a kernel already so installed, by itself) then check if everything you ever do still works. AFAIK, most if not all NVidia graphics users need -extra. My need for optional is due to need for full connectivity with legacy networking (SMB1) and filesystems (HPFS). # zypper info kernel-default-extra | grep mmary Summary : The Standard Kernel - Unsupported kernel modules # zypper info kernel-default-optional | grep mmary Summary : The Standard Kernel - Optional kernel modules -- Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion, based on faith, not based on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata
On 7/10/24 15:44, Felix Miata wrote:
Do you have knowledge of actual need for any of what kernel-default-extra or kernel-default-optional provide? If you know you don't, they're just space wasters. Remove them, then lock them, to prevent future installation.
As I mentioned, later versions are already installed, as per yast software management. I never selected those extra packages, they were just part of the install.
If you know you do, or do not know, try from Konsole:
zypper ref && zypper up
#zypper ref && zypper up Repository 'Update repository of openSUSE Backports' is up to date. Repository 'Non-OSS Repository' is up to date. Repository 'Open H.264 Codec (openSUSE Leap)' is up to date. Repository 'Main Repository' is up to date. Repository 'Update repository with updates from SUSE Linux Enterprise 15' is up to date. Repository 'Main Update Repository' is up to date. Repository 'Update Repository (Non-Oss)' is up to date. All repositories have been refreshed. Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... The following 3 package updates will NOT be installed: kernel-default-6.4.0-150600.23.7.3 kernel-default-extra-6.4.0-150600.23.7.3 kernel-default-optional-6.4.0-150600.23.7.3 The following 3 NEW packages are going to be installed: kernel-default-6.4.0-150600.21.3 kernel-default-extra-6.4.0-150600.21.3 kernel-default-optional-6.4.0-150600.21.3 The following 3 packages are going to be REMOVED: kernel-default-6.4.0-150600.21.2 kernel-default-extra-6.4.0-150600.21.2 kernel-default-optional-6.4.0-150600.21.2 The following package requires a system reboot: kernel-default-6.4.0-150600.21.3 3new packages to install, 3to remove.
Your installed kernel 6.4.0-150600.21.2 is not even more in the OSS Repo. There was a bugreport about that. So I would update first to kernel 6.4.0-150600.21.3 and after that also update once more. Stephan Am Mittwoch, 10. Juli 2024, 21:53:36 CEST schrieb James Knott:
#zypper ref && zypper up Repository 'Update repository of openSUSE Backports' is up to date. Repository 'Non-OSS Repository' is up to date. Repository 'Open H.264 Codec (openSUSE Leap)' is up to date. Repository 'Main Repository' is up to date. Repository 'Update repository with updates from SUSE Linux Enterprise 15' is up to date. Repository 'Main Update Repository' is up to date. Repository 'Update Repository (Non-Oss)' is up to date. All repositories have been refreshed. Loading repository data... Reading installed packages...
The following 3 package updates will NOT be installed: kernel-default-6.4.0-150600.23.7.3 kernel-default-extra-6.4.0-150600.23.7.3 kernel-default-optional-6.4.0-150600.23.7.3
The following 3 NEW packages are going to be installed: kernel-default-6.4.0-150600.21.3 kernel-default-extra-6.4.0-150600.21.3 kernel-default-optional-6.4.0-150600.21.3
The following 3 packages are going to be REMOVED: kernel-default-6.4.0-150600.21.2 kernel-default-extra-6.4.0-150600.21.2 kernel-default-optional-6.4.0-150600.21.2
The following package requires a system reboot: kernel-default-6.4.0-150600.21.3
3new packages to install, 3to remove.
On 7/10/24 16:05, Stephan Hemeier via openSUSE Users wrote:
Your installed kernel 6.4.0-150600.21.2 is not even more in the OSS Repo. There was a bugreport about that.
So I would update first to kernel 6.4.0-150600.21.3 and after that also update once more.
I used the instruction Felix provided, which seems to have cleared it. "zypper ref && zypper up" What's curious is this affected only my ThinkPad and not my desktop system.
James Knott composed on 2024-07-10 16:10 (UTC-0400):
Stephan Hemeier via openSUSE Users wrote:
Your installed kernel 6.4.0-150600.21.2 is not even more in the OSS Repo. There was a bugreport about that.
So I would update first to kernel 6.4.0-150600.21.3 and after that also update once more.
I used the instruction Felix provided, which seems to have cleared it. "zypper ref && zypper up"
What's curious is this affected only my ThinkPad and not my desktop system.
It probably never had 6.4.0-150600.21.2 installed. It needed repair, which installing 6.4.0-150600.21.3 provided. 6.4.0-150600.23 is the newest kernel. The zypper proposal you provided indicated it would not be updated, but only update 6.4.0-150600.21. If you are running 6.4.0-150600.21 and 6.4.0-150600.23 is not installed, you should repeat zypper up. -- Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion, based on faith, not based on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata
On 7/10/24 15:53, James Knott wrote:
#zypper ref && zypper up Repository 'Update repository of openSUSE Backports' is up to date. Repository 'Non-OSS Repository' is up to date. Repository 'Open H.264 Codec (openSUSE Leap)' is up to date. Repository 'Main Repository' is up to date. Repository 'Update repository with updates from SUSE Linux Enterprise 15' is up to date. Repository 'Main Update Repository' is up to date. Repository 'Update Repository (Non-Oss)' is up to date. All repositories have been refreshed. Loading repository data... Reading installed packages...
The following 3 package updates will NOT be installed: kernel-default-6.4.0-150600.23.7.3 kernel-default-extra-6.4.0-150600.23.7.3 kernel-default-optional-6.4.0-150600.23.7.3
The following 3 NEW packages are going to be installed: kernel-default-6.4.0-150600.21.3 kernel-default-extra-6.4.0-150600.21.3 kernel-default-optional-6.4.0-150600.21.3
The following 3 packages are going to be REMOVED: kernel-default-6.4.0-150600.21.2 kernel-default-extra-6.4.0-150600.21.2 kernel-default-optional-6.4.0-150600.21.2
The following package requires a system reboot: kernel-default-6.4.0-150600.21.3
3new packages to install, 3to remove.
This appears to have cleared the problem. tnx
On 10.07.2024 22:53, James Knott wrote:
The following 3 NEW packages are going to be installed: kernel-default-6.4.0-150600.21.3 kernel-default-extra-6.4.0-150600.21.3 kernel-default-optional-6.4.0-150600.21.3
The following 3 packages are going to be REMOVED: kernel-default-6.4.0-150600.21.2 kernel-default-extra-6.4.0-150600.21.2 kernel-default-optional-6.4.0-150600.21.2
So, these packages have been rebuilt for whatever reasons. Where is the problem?
For some reason, these packages have been rebuilt. How did this issue arise? https://candy-clicker.io/
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