*This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro* Jerry do you know any good sites for emacs tutorials? I've never used it before. I've mainly used vi and pico but I've heard alot of good things about it Keith ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Feldman" To: Sent: Friday, March 31, 2000 7:16 AM Subject: Re: [SLE] not SUSE, emacs

*This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro* I have been an emacs user for 15 years, but I prefer to use XEmacs because of the x interface. I use XEmacs at home, but GNU emacs is the only one available on my work system, which is on an isolated net.

On 31 Mar 2000, at 14:04, Francesco wrote:

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Not stictly a SUSE issue but I have been considering using emacs for mail etc etc as I spend much of my time in it. Two questions really. 1) Any thoughts on emacs v xemacs 2) How easy (am an relative newbie) is it to configure mail for these. Am currently using kmail, via smtp.

Many thanks

Francesco

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*This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro* Emacs is always packaged with a full docset and a tutorial. One needs to be a bit cautious when describing emacs since emacs is essentially an environment, not just an editor. From a pure text editor standpoint in contrast to vi, there is a total difference of philosophy. In contrast to vi, emacs always allows you to enter text into the current buffer (unless the document is read-only). Emacs is also a language sensitive editor, having modes for most of the major languages including C, Perl, shell scripts. Most of the time, I use emacs to edit, compile, debug, check code in and out of the source control system. (XEmacs has buttons for compiling and debugging). As noted previously, there are several email packages that can be loaded, as well as news readers. I also use emacs for html editing as there are some html extensions. I would suggest that you install GNU Emacs or XEmacs from your SuSE distribution (and install the updates from the SuSE support site) and use the internal tutorial. There are several good books on GNU Emacs, such as O'Reilly's Learning GNU Emacs. Note that for the most part GNU Emacs and XEmacs are essentially the same.

On 31 Mar 2000, at 9:01, Keith Pettit wrote:

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*This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro* Jerry do you know any good sites for emacs tutorials? I've never used it before. I've mainly used vi and pico but I've heard alot of good things about it

Keith

----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Feldman" To: Sent: Friday, March 31, 2000 7:16 AM Subject: Re: [SLE] not SUSE, emacs

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*This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro* I have been an emacs user for 15 years, but I prefer to use XEmacs because of the x interface. I use XEmacs at home, but GNU emacs is the only one available on my work system, which is on an isolated net.

On 31 Mar 2000, at 14:04, Francesco wrote:

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Not stictly a SUSE issue but I have been considering using emacs for mail etc etc as I spend much of my time in it. Two questions really. 1) Any thoughts on emacs v xemacs 2) How easy (am an relative newbie) is it to configure mail for

*This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro* Thanks. One if the resons I wanted to check out emacs is becuase it's supposed to be a good programming tool. From what I understand it does color coding and that sort of things. Do you know if it had a module to color code php stuff? Keith ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Feldman" To: Sent: Friday, March 31, 2000 9:43 AM Subject: Re: [SLE] not SUSE, emacs these.

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Am currently using kmail, via smtp.

Many thanks

Francesco

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On Fri, 31 Mar 2000, Keith Pettit wrote:

*This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro* Thanks.

One if the resons I wanted to check out emacs is becuase it's supposed to be a good programming tool.

Beyond a shadow of a doubt it is that, including version control and debugging.

From what I understand it does color coding and that sort of things.

Yes

Do you know if it had a module to color code php stuff?

I don't know, but I wouldn't doubt it.

Keith

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Just put "emacs tutorial" into the google.com search engine and pick one of the 20k or so sites that you see! Here are some examples: http://www.lib.uchicago.edu/keith/tcl-course/emacs-tutorial.html http://www.linuxdot.org/nlm/part1/emacs1.html http://www.geek-girl.com/emacs/refcard.html Jerry On Fri, 31 Mar 2000, Keith Pettit wrote:

*This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro* Jerry do you know any good sites for emacs tutorials? I've never used it before. I've mainly used vi and pico but I've heard alot of good things about it

Keith

----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Feldman" To: Sent: Friday, March 31, 2000 7:16 AM Subject: Re: [SLE] not SUSE, emacs

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*This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro* I have been an emacs user for 15 years, but I prefer to use XEmacs because of the x interface. I use XEmacs at home, but GNU emacs is the only one available on my work system, which is on an isolated net.

On 31 Mar 2000, at 14:04, Francesco wrote:

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Not stictly a SUSE issue but I have been considering using emacs for mail etc etc as I spend much of my time in it. Two questions really. 1) Any thoughts on emacs v xemacs 2) How easy (am an relative newbie) is it to configure mail for these. Am currently using kmail, via smtp.

Many thanks

Francesco

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hello I am a sort of a newbie to suse 6.3. I was a redhat user. If you don't mind , can you help me with a slight problem during installation. i want to know how i can specify the sizes of / ,/boot,/home partitions during installation. My disk geometry being what it is , my hard disk has more than 1024 cylinders. Disk Druid in RHL says its 1027 but yast says its around 2337. So the /boot in suse somehow manages to come after the 1500th cylinder. So lilo won't work properly. Moreover, my hard-disk is not contigous. Repeated formatting and resizing of partitions are to be blamed, i suppose. Any idea how i can continue? Even documentation on the web would be nice. Cheers Cheedu ------------------------------------------------------------------------- email: omicron@pes.edu website: www.geocities.com/sri_dhar_n It is impossible to do anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious ------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/

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I am a sort of a newbie to suse 6.3. I was a redhat user. If you don't mind , can you help me with a slight problem during installation.

i want to know how i can specify the sizes of / ,/boot,/home partitions during installation. My disk geometry being what it is , my hard disk has more than 1024 cylinders. Disk Druid in RHL says its 1027 but yast says its around 2337. So the /boot in suse somehow manages to come after the 1500th cylinder. So lilo won't work properly. Moreover, my hard-disk is not contigous. Repeated formatting and resizing of partitions are to be blamed, i suppose. Any idea how i can continue? Even documentation on the web would be nice.

SuSE 6.3 has two installation utilities: YAST2 on disk 1, and YAST on disk 2. YAST2 is the easier of the two, but YAST is by far more flexible and can do what you need. Set up one partition, entirely within the first 1,024 cylinders, that is at least 4 megabytes. Ten megabytes is substantially more than you need. This will be your /boot partition. This is the ONLY part of the whole install that normally is location-critical. IF you are going to put lilo in the boot sector of the root partition (which is necessary if you want to put Windows NT/2000 on the same drive, I believe), then you may have to have the root partition begin no later than cylinder 1023. But where the end is, probably would not matter. And if you put lilo in the disk's master boot record (for a linux-only system or for dual-booting with Windows 9X or other version of MS-DOS), then you don't have this issue because the MBR is always early. Aside from that, the cylinder number doesn't matter. Linux, once it's booted, ignores the BIOS disk routines and doesn't have their limitations. Just don't try to have a single ext2 partition of more than four terabytes. :-) However, for performance reasons, you want your SWAP partition as early on the disk as possible. Your system will run just fine if you have a 128-meg swap partition ending in cylinder 2336. But it will run faster if the swap partition is early on the disk. -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/