[opensuse] How to exclude sites from Zypper?
I mean site not repository. I know, because in the past, I can download at speed in excess of 6megabytes/sec from some sites 9and, lets face it, from YouTube and other streaming sites), and still can if I sftp/wget/cURL from specific ones, but the supposed smarts or mirrorbrain are selecting sites that, while they may be electrically closer, are delivering less than 1% of that, often even less, sometimes single digit byes/sec. Other than firewalling out specific sites, and somehow getting zypper to deal with that error (but I'm not sure how), how can I tell the mirrorbrain selection that I don't want "the closest and mostest"? Who knows, perhaps Estonia is faster than Waterloo? Currently downloading a new kernel at between 88 and 32 kiloBITS/sec -- A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 28/05/2019 12.19, Anton Aylward wrote:
I mean site not repository.
I know, because in the past, I can download at speed in excess of 6megabytes/sec from some sites 9and, lets face it, from YouTube and other streaming sites), and still can if I sftp/wget/cURL from specific ones, but the supposed smarts or mirrorbrain are selecting sites that, while they may be electrically closer, are delivering less than 1% of that, often even less, sometimes single digit byes/sec.
Other than firewalling out specific sites, and somehow getting zypper to deal with that error (but I'm not sure how), how can I tell the mirrorbrain selection that I don't want "the closest and mostest"?
Use a local DNS that solves that name as some error? The official procedure is to report that mirror to the admin at opensuse. Otherwise, write explicitly in the repo definition an URL that is not mirrobrain. You can setup more than one. Now, I have done that, but I don't see how in my notes :-? -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.0 x86_64 at Telcontar)
Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 28/05/2019 12.19, Anton Aylward wrote:
I mean site not repository.
I know, because in the past, I can download at speed in excess of 6megabytes/sec from some sites 9and, lets face it, from YouTube and other streaming sites), and still can if I sftp/wget/cURL from specific ones, but the supposed smarts or mirrorbrain are selecting sites that, while they may be electrically closer, are delivering less than 1% of that, often even less, sometimes single digit byes/sec.
Other than firewalling out specific sites, and somehow getting zypper to deal with that error (but I'm not sure how), how can I tell the mirrorbrain selection that I don't want "the closest and mostest"?
Use a local DNS that solves that name as some error?
The official procedure is to report that mirror to the admin at opensuse.
It's certainly worth a try, we have had issues with the geolocation, but we can't do much about lack of bandwidth or peering.
Otherwise, write explicitly in the repo definition an URL that is not mirrobrain. You can setup more than one. Now, I have done that, but I don't see how in my notes :-?
YaST will help you with that. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (12.7°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - your free DNS host, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 28/05/2019 13.26, Per Jessen wrote:
Carlos E. R. wrote:
Otherwise, write explicitly in the repo definition an URL that is not mirrobrain. You can setup more than one. Now, I have done that, but I don't see how in my notes :-?
YaST will help you with that.
Yast allows several URLS per repo? I have not seen it. In 13.1 I used this trick with packman: /etc/zypp/repos.d/ftp.gwdg.de-suse.repo [EXT_Packman] name=EXT: Packman Repository enabled=1 autorefresh=1 path=/ mirrorlist=http://localhost/packmanmirrorlist.file type=rpm-md priority=95 keeppackages=1 which served this file: http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/packman/suse/openSUSE_13.1/ http://mirror.karneval.cz/pub/linux/packman/suse/openSUSE_13.1/ Then there was a modification that made using a local web server unnecessary. I think it was simply several "baseurl=" lines, but I'm unsure. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.0 x86_64 at Telcontar)
Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 28/05/2019 13.26, Per Jessen wrote:
Carlos E. R. wrote:
Otherwise, write explicitly in the repo definition an URL that is not mirrobrain. You can setup more than one. Now, I have done that, but I don't see how in my notes :-?
YaST will help you with that.
Yast allows several URLS per repo? I have not seen it.
Ah no, just one.
In 13.1 I used this trick with packman:
/etc/zypp/repos.d/ftp.gwdg.de-suse.repo
[EXT_Packman] name=EXT: Packman Repository enabled=1 autorefresh=1 path=/ mirrorlist=http://localhost/packmanmirrorlist.file type=rpm-md priority=95 keeppackages=1
You can probably still do the same. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (14.2°C) http://www.hostsuisse.com/ - virtual servers, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
* Carlos E. R. <robin.listas@telefonica.net> [05-28-19 08:05]:
On 28/05/2019 13.26, Per Jessen wrote:
Carlos E. R. wrote:
Otherwise, write explicitly in the repo definition an URL that is not mirrobrain. You can setup more than one. Now, I have done that, but I don't see how in my notes :-?
YaST will help you with that.
Yast allows several URLS per repo? I have not seen it.
don't know about YaST but zypper does as I have posted here previous. [Tumbleweed.OSS] name=openSUSE-Tumbleweed OSS enabled=1 autorefresh=0 baseurl=http://download.opensuse.org/tumbleweed/repo/oss/ http://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/linux/opensuse/tumbleweed/repo/oss/ http://distro.ibiblio.org/opensuse/tumbleweed/repo/oss/ http://suse.mobile-central.org/tumbleweed/repo/oss/ http://ftp.uni-erlangen.de/opensuse/tumbleweed/repo/non-oss/ http://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/tumbleweed/repo/oss/ type=rpm-md -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 28/05/2019 08:20, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Carlos E. R. <robin.listas@telefonica.net> [05-28-19 08:05]:
On 28/05/2019 13.26, Per Jessen wrote:
Carlos E. R. wrote:
Otherwise, write explicitly in the repo definition an URL that is not mirrobrain. You can setup more than one. Now, I have done that, but I don't see how in my notes :-?
YaST will help you with that.
Yast allows several URLS per repo? I have not seen it.
don't know about YaST but zypper does as I have posted here previous.
That's nice to know, thank you Patrick. Now I just have to go though the list of all sites to see how they perform. It would have been so much easier to use EXclusion rather than INclusion, but that's life, isn't it? -- A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 28/05/2019 08:20, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Carlos E. R. <robin.listas@telefonica.net> [05-28-19 08:05]:
On 28/05/2019 13.26, Per Jessen wrote:
Carlos E. R. wrote:
Otherwise, write explicitly in the repo definition an URL that is not mirrobrain. You can setup more than one. Now, I have done that, but I don't see how in my notes :-?
YaST will help you with that.
Yast allows several URLS per repo? I have not seen it.
don't know about YaST but zypper does as I have posted here previous.
[Tumbleweed.OSS] name=openSUSE-Tumbleweed OSS enabled=1 autorefresh=0 baseurl=http://download.opensuse.org/tumbleweed/repo/oss/ http://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/linux/opensuse/tumbleweed/repo/oss/ http://distro.ibiblio.org/opensuse/tumbleweed/repo/oss/ http://suse.mobile-central.org/tumbleweed/repo/oss/ http://ftp.uni-erlangen.de/opensuse/tumbleweed/repo/non-oss/ http://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/tumbleweed/repo/oss/ type=rpm-md
yes, but can I make that 'global'? -- A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
* Anton Aylward <opensuse@antonaylward.com> [06-04-19 06:53]:
On 28/05/2019 08:20, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Carlos E. R. <robin.listas@telefonica.net> [05-28-19 08:05]:
On 28/05/2019 13.26, Per Jessen wrote:
Carlos E. R. wrote:
Otherwise, write explicitly in the repo definition an URL that is not mirrobrain. You can setup more than one. Now, I have done that, but I don't see how in my notes :-?
YaST will help you with that.
Yast allows several URLS per repo? I have not seen it.
don't know about YaST but zypper does as I have posted here previous.
[Tumbleweed.OSS] name=openSUSE-Tumbleweed OSS enabled=1 autorefresh=0 baseurl=http://download.opensuse.org/tumbleweed/repo/oss/ http://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/linux/opensuse/tumbleweed/repo/oss/ http://distro.ibiblio.org/opensuse/tumbleweed/repo/oss/ http://suse.mobile-central.org/tumbleweed/repo/oss/ http://ftp.uni-erlangen.de/opensuse/tumbleweed/repo/non-oss/ http://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/tumbleweed/repo/oss/ type=rpm-md
yes, but can I make that 'global'?
if 'global' means to all repos, yes, but you must individually edit each repo file and must check that all mirrors actually exist. if 'global' is something else, you will need to explain. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 04/06/2019 08:12, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
if 'global' means to all repos, yes, but you must individually edit each repo file and must check that all mirrors actually exist
As I said, a lot of work! Is there a simple way to find out what possible repositories COULD be used for a given repo? Given I have http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Frameworks5/openSUSE_Leap_42.... for example, what sites could mirrorbrain redirect me to? So far it seems to be sending me off to Asia, and as I blackhole those sites through Russia. -- A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
* Anton Aylward <opensuse@antonaylward.com> [06-04-19 09:47]:
On 04/06/2019 08:12, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
if 'global' means to all repos, yes, but you must individually edit each repo file and must check that all mirrors actually exist
As I said, a lot of work!
Is there a simple way to find out what possible repositories COULD be used for a given repo?
Given I have http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Frameworks5/openSUSE_Leap_42.... for example, what sites could mirrorbrain redirect me to? So far it seems to be sending me off to Asia, and as I blackhole those sites through Russia.
thought you would be more curious: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Frameworks5/openSUSE_Leap_42.... hint: "Details" -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 04/06/2019 09:59, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
Given I have http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Frameworks5/openSUSE_Leap_42.... for example, what sites could mirrorbrain redirect me to? So far it seems to be sending me off to Asia, and as I blackhole those sites through Russia.
thought you would be more curious: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Frameworks5/openSUSE_Leap_42....
Thank you, I wasn't aware of that facility. Well I step though what it offers and some interesting stuff comes up. The nth America closest, provo-mirror.opensuse.org, is a distant ping, certainly more distant by a factor of two or three than my site hosting may email and web in California. Traceroute times out on it, so its more than the default 30 hops away. Other sites are, yes, though eastern europe/russia and asia :-) -- A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
* Anton Aylward <opensuse@antonaylward.com> [06-04-19 10:31]:
On 04/06/2019 09:59, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
Given I have http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Frameworks5/openSUSE_Leap_42.... for example, what sites could mirrorbrain redirect me to? So far it seems to be sending me off to Asia, and as I blackhole those sites through Russia.
thought you would be more curious: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Frameworks5/openSUSE_Leap_42....
Thank you, I wasn't aware of that facility.
Well I step though what it offers and some interesting stuff comes up. The nth America closest, provo-mirror.opensuse.org, is a distant ping, certainly more distant by a factor of two or three than my site hosting may email and web in California. Traceroute times out on it, so its more than the default 30 hops away.
Other sites are, yes, though eastern europe/russia and asia :-)
I only add sites when I expierence frequent connect failures and then based on access times ... rather than location. if a site in bfegypt is more accessable than next door, bfegypt wins. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Anton Aylward wrote:
On 04/06/2019 08:12, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
if 'global' means to all repos, yes, but you must individually edit each repo file and must check that all mirrors actually exist
As I said, a lot of work!
Is there a simple way to find out what possible repositories COULD be used for a given repo?
Given I have
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Frameworks5/openSUSE_Leap_42....
for example, what sites could mirrorbrain redirect me to?
It's all right at your fingertips. http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Frameworks5/openSUSE_Leap_42.... -- Per Jessen, Zürich (31.0°C) member, openSUSE Heroes -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Anton Aylward wrote:
I mean site not repository.
I know, because in the past, I can download at speed in excess of 6megabytes/sec from some sites 9 and, lets face it, from YouTube and other streaming sites), and still can if I sftp/wget/cURL from specific ones, but the supposed smarts or mirrorbrain are selecting sites that, while they may be electrically closer, are delivering less than 1% of that, often even less, sometimes single digit byes/sec.
Other than firewalling out specific sites, and somehow getting zypper to deal with that error (but I'm not sure how), how can I tell the mirrorbrain selection that I don't want "the closest and mostest"?
You can't really do much. Mirrorbrain tries to select sites that are geographically and networkwise optimal, as well as corresponding to the priorities and preferences as set by the operator. You could probably use a proxy to exclude sites you don't want. Looking up your IP, mirrorbrain suggests 4 mirror sites - freemirror.org u of waterloo u of dalhousie manitoba something. You should see chunked requests spread across those, i.e. a single mirror should not be throttling everything.
Who knows, perhaps Estonia is faster than Waterloo?
It's easy to find out with wget. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (12.5°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - your free DNS host, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 28/05/2019 07:22, Per Jessen wrote:
Looking up your IP, mirrorbrain suggests 4 mirror sites -
freemirror.org u of waterloo u of dalhousie manitoba something.
Well! I've been running netstat while doing a zypper up and what i see are established HTTPS links to opensuse.ucom.am and mirror.karneval.cz and ftp.opensuse.org WHY? -- A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Anton Aylward wrote:
On 28/05/2019 07:22, Per Jessen wrote:
Looking up your IP, mirrorbrain suggests 4 mirror sites -
freemirror.org u of waterloo u of dalhousie manitoba something.
Well!
I've been running netstat while doing a zypper up and what i see are established HTTPS links to
opensuse.ucom.am and mirror.karneval.cz and ftp.opensuse.org
WHY?
Well - for one thing, the mirror system does not work very well with https. For another, what are your repos? Most mirrors only mirror the "official" repos, many don't bother with Tumbleweed and repositories:/ for instance. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (25.4°C) http://www.cloudsuisse.com/ - your owncloud, hosted in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 04/06/2019 07:13, Per Jessen wrote:
Anton Aylward wrote:
On 28/05/2019 07:22, Per Jessen wrote:
Looking up your IP, mirrorbrain suggests 4 mirror sites -
freemirror.org u of waterloo u of dalhousie manitoba something.
Well!
I've been running netstat while doing a zypper up and what i see are established HTTPS links to
opensuse.ucom.am and mirror.karneval.cz and ftp.opensuse.org
WHY?
Well - for one thing, the mirror system does not work very well with https. For another, what are your repos? Most mirrors only mirror the "official" repos, many don't bother with Tumbleweed and repositories:/ for instance.
Sorry, I misspoke. I grepped netstat output for BOTH http and https. and worked back from there. One of the greatest delays is when , early one, zypper probes the sites of every repository listed, to check the stat/data of the repository to see if there are updates. For that, openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Update using http://download.opensuse.org/update/leap/42.3/oss/ takes an incredible long time @ less tan 200, often less than 50 kBITS/sec, sometimes with long stretches at zero throughput. The last time when it did that was one of the occasions that netstat told me the connection was to mirror.karneval.cz Patrick's idea is still a good one, but there is still the issue of the probing of a huge number of sites to see how the respond for me.. -- A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Anton Aylward wrote:
On 04/06/2019 07:13, Per Jessen wrote:
Sorry, I misspoke. I grepped netstat output for BOTH http and https. and worked back from there.
Okay, no probs.
One of the greatest delays is when , early one, zypper probes the sites of every repository listed, to check the stat/data of the repository to see if there are updates. For that, openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Update using http://download.opensuse.org/update/leap/42.3/oss/ takes an incredible long time @ less tan 200, often less than 50 kBITS/sec, sometimes with long stretches at zero throughput. The last time when it did that was one of the occasions that netstat told me the connection was to mirror.karneval.cz
For 42.3-update, that is a bit odd, but with only four Canadian mirrors, it is possible. I looked up mirrors for ARCHIVES.gz and your IP address (104.234.... ?) and got the same four mirrors as I listed earlier.
Patrick's idea is still a good one, but there is still the issue of the probing of a huge number of sites to see how the respond for me..
If the connection to your "local" mirrors is so poor, maybe start by looking at mirrors in countries to which Canada might likely have decent pipes. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (26.2°C) http://www.cloudsuisse.com/ - your owncloud, hosted in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 04/06/2019 08:36, Per Jessen wrote:
Anton Aylward wrote:
One of the greatest delays is when , early one, zypper probes the sites of every repository listed, to check the stat/data of the repository to see if there are updates. For that, openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Update using http://download.opensuse.org/update/leap/42.3/oss/ takes an incredible long time @ less tan 200, often less than 50 kBITS/sec, sometimes with long stretches at zero throughput. The last time when it did that was one of the occasions that netstat told me the connection was to mirror.karneval.cz
For 42.3-update, that is a bit odd, but with only four Canadian mirrors, it is possible.
When I drilled down at those sites it turns out that they don't mirror much, essentially what is current, and as I'm sure you'll tell me, 42.3 is approaching EoL. They certainly don't have the KDE: and Kernel stuff that is pretty huge.
I looked up mirrors for ARCHIVES.gz and your IP address (104.234.... ?) and got the same four mirrors as I listed earlier.
Yes, see above.
Patrick's idea is still a good one, but there is still the issue of the probing of a huge number of sites to see how the respond for me..
If the connection to your "local" mirrors is so poor, maybe start by looking at mirrors in countries to which Canada might likely have decent pipes.
I don't know if that's why Mirrorbrain is send me to Asia and Russia. But the speed of the pipe - pinging - is not the only criteria. The site has to have the relevant repository and the server has to be delivering at PDQ -- A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Anton Aylward wrote:
On 04/06/2019 08:36, Per Jessen wrote:
Anton Aylward wrote:
One of the greatest delays is when , early one, zypper probes the sites of every repository listed, to check the stat/data of the repository to see if there are updates. For that, openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Update using http://download.opensuse.org/update/leap/42.3/oss/ takes an incredible long time @ less tan 200, often less than 50 kBITS/sec, sometimes with long stretches at zero throughput. The last time when it did that was one of the occasions that netstat told me the connection was to mirror.karneval.cz
For 42.3-update, that is a bit odd, but with only four Canadian mirrors, it is possible.
When I drilled down at those sites it turns out that they don't mirror much, essentially what is current, and as I'm sure you'll tell me, 42.3 is approaching EoL. They certainly don't have the KDE: and Kernel stuff that is pretty huge.
That is pretty much the norm. Like I said, most mirrors only mirror the "official" repos, most don't bother with Tumbleweed and repositories:/ for instance.
Patrick's idea is still a good one, but there is still the issue of the probing of a huge number of sites to see how the respond for me..
If the connection to your "local" mirrors is so poor, maybe start by looking at mirrors in countries to which Canada might likely have decent pipes.
I don't know if that's why Mirrorbrain is send me to Asia and Russia.
If the repos you want are not mirrored in Canada, you will get them from wherever they are available.
But the speed of the pipe - pinging -
No, that is about latency, not speed (bandwidth).
is not the only criteria. The site has to have the relevant repository and the server has to be delivering at PDQ
For the latter, the size of the end-to-end pipe is critical. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (31.0°C) member, openSUSE heroes (wearing my mirror admin cap). -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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