I just replaced my motherboard/processor. Had a 300mhz Pentium II and swapped it with an AMD Athlon 2000+. I am having trouble in that the system crashes after an hour or so of use. Runs all night if left alone. I added an extra fan to the case. BIOS reports CPU at 125 degrees F, case at about 95 degrees F. Is this too hot? Is it possible I should be using a different kernel for Athlon? -- Robert C. Paulsen, Jr. robert@paulsenonline.net
The CPU temp looks high, but not damaging. A discussion on some list,
maybe here, said up to 60C (140F) is acceptable. However, I notice a
lot of PCI cards are specified to only up to 40C (104F). Athlons do
run hot and need more cooling than a Pentium.
HTH,
Jeffrey
Quoting Robert C. Paulsen Jr.
I just replaced my motherboard/processor. Had a 300mhz Pentium II and swapped it with an AMD Athlon 2000+. I am having trouble in that the system crashes after an hour or so of use. Runs all night if left alone.
I added an extra fan to the case. BIOS reports CPU at 125 degrees F, case at about 95 degrees F. Is this too hot?
Is it possible I should be using a different kernel for Athlon?
On Sunday 21 April 2002 19:16, Robert C. Paulsen Jr. wrote:
I just replaced my motherboard/processor. Had a 300mhz Pentium II and swapped it with an AMD Athlon 2000+. I am having trouble in that the system crashes after an hour or so of use. Runs all night if left alone.
I added an extra fan to the case. BIOS reports CPU at 125 degrees F, case at about 95 degrees F. Is this too hot?
Is it possible I should be using a different kernel for Athlon? My flakiest Athlon has SCSI system failures at unpredictable intervals. Something other than temperature seems likely if it can run all night. I'm talking about an 1800+ replacement for a fairly solid 1200. I assume you've checked out the instructions for AGP installation on Athlon, if applicable. -- Tim Prince
I too have experienced a possibly Athlon related problem. We are running a dual 1.2Ghz Athlon processor system with Promise RAID controller. The system runs for weeks without a problem, reboots are fine, unless you actually shut down the system (power off, not just a warm boot). If you shut it off and let it sit for more than a minute or so it won't start back up. It then has to sit for 15-20 minutes before you can start it again. It has me completely baffled, the system goes all the way throw POST up to where it checks the RAID controller. That test comes back that it is working fine (and it is, I tested it by physically disconnecting a drive and it did report an error) but then the post hangs. Just thought I would throw this one out there, maybe someone has some ideas, maybe not. Thanks for all the great info and assistance everyone here has given me. Before long I hope to start returning the good deeds. Greg Hicks -----Original Message----- From: Tim Prince [mailto:tprince@computer.org] Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 8:42 PM To: Robert C. Paulsen Jr.; suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: Re: [SLE] New Athlon Crashes -- Temperature? Kernel? On Sunday 21 April 2002 19:16, Robert C. Paulsen Jr. wrote:
I just replaced my motherboard/processor. Had a 300mhz Pentium II and swapped it with an AMD Athlon 2000+. I am having trouble in that the system crashes after an hour or so of use. Runs all night if left alone.
I added an extra fan to the case. BIOS reports CPU at 125 degrees F, case at about 95 degrees F. Is this too hot?
Is it possible I should be using a different kernel for Athlon? My flakiest Athlon has SCSI system failures at unpredictable intervals. Something other than temperature seems likely if it can run all night. I'm talking about an 1800+ replacement for a fairly solid 1200. I assume you've checked out the instructions for AGP installation on Athlon, if applicable. -- Tim Prince
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"Robert C. Paulsen Jr." wrote:
I just replaced my motherboard/processor. Had a 300mhz Pentium II and swapped it with an AMD Athlon 2000+. I am having trouble in that the system crashes after an hour or so of use. Runs all night if left alone.
I added an extra fan to the case. BIOS reports CPU at 125 degrees F, case at about 95 degrees F. Is this too hot?
Is it possible I should be using a different kernel for Athlon?
If temp isn't the problem, you might try using: append = "nopentium" kernel arg in the applicable /etc/lilo.conf stanza. just a thought. -- JAY VOLLMER JVOLLMER1@MN.RR.COM TEXT REFS DOUBLEPLUSUNGOOD SELFTHINK VERGING CRIMETHINK IGNORE FULLWISE
On Mon, 2002-04-22 at 07:20, Jay C Vollmer wrote:
"Robert C. Paulsen Jr." wrote:
I just replaced my motherboard/processor. Had a 300mhz Pentium II and swapped it with an AMD Athlon 2000+. I am having trouble in that the system crashes after an hour or so of use. Runs all night if left alone.
I added an extra fan to the case. BIOS reports CPU at 125 degrees F, case at about 95 degrees F. Is this too hot?
Is it possible I should be using a different kernel for Athlon?
If temp isn't the problem, you might try using:
append = "nopentium"
correct me if i'm wrong, but shouldn't this be append = "mem=nopentium" ??
kernel arg in the applicable /etc/lilo.conf stanza.
just a thought.
-- JAY VOLLMER
cheers, Marcel
You may be sitting right on the point of temperature failure. Many
commercial grade boards are rated up to 40C (104F). I just did an
experiment, not running SETI@Home and Folding@Home for 24 hours so my
CPU was idle for most of the time. It dropped the average temperature
5C (9F).
HTH,
Jeffrey
Quoting Robert C. Paulsen Jr.
I just replaced my motherboard/processor. Had a 300mhz Pentium II and swapped it with an AMD Athlon 2000+. I am having trouble in that the system crashes after an hour or so of use. Runs all night if left alone.
I added an extra fan to the case. BIOS reports CPU at 125 degrees F, case at about 95 degrees F. Is this too hot?
Is it possible I should be using a different kernel for Athlon?
On Monday 22 April 2002 09:30, Jeffrey Taylor wrote:
You may be sitting right on the point of temperature failure. Many commercial grade boards are rated up to 40C (104F). I just did an experiment, not running SETI@Home and Folding@Home for 24 hours so my CPU was idle for most of the time. It dropped the average temperature 5C (9F).
HTH, Jeffrey
Quoting Robert C. Paulsen Jr.
: I just replaced my motherboard/processor. Had a 300mhz Pentium II and swapped it with an AMD Athlon 2000+. I am having trouble in that the system crashes after an hour or so of use. Runs all night if left alone.
I added an extra fan to the case. BIOS reports CPU at 125 degrees F, case at about 95 degrees F. Is this too hot?
Is it possible I should be using a different kernel for Athlon?
125F for the CPU and 95F for the case is a bit too hot. usually, i get 45C (113F) for my Athlon CPU and 30C (86F) for my mobo on idle. i don't use any special kernel. my advice is to either get a better CPU fan (if you used the one AMD gave you, definitely get a better one). or if your case has another slot for a fan, add one of those. xiaolei
To all who gave me feedback on this... After discussing this with someone at work I think the real problem may be an overloaded/overheating power supply. This is based on the symptoms -- more than half the crashes are actually the power cycling. There is a "click" and the system reboots. When I get home I am going to check to see what the wattage of my power supply is. In any case, I ordered an interesting fan. It sits in the case either behind or replacing the intake fan at the bottom front of the case and has ductwork to direct most of the air towards the top of the case where the CPU, power supply, and video card are located. All these have been suggested to me as the possible problem. On Sun, Apr 21, 2002 at 09:16:14PM -0500, Robert C. Paulsen Jr. wrote:
I just replaced my motherboard/processor. Had a 300mhz Pentium II and swapped it with an AMD Athlon 2000+. I am having trouble in that the system crashes after an hour or so of use. Runs all night if left alone.
I added an extra fan to the case. BIOS reports CPU at 125 degrees F, case at about 95 degrees F. Is this too hot?
Is it possible I should be using a different kernel for Athlon?
-- Robert C. Paulsen, Jr. robert@paulsenonline.net
participants (7)
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Greg Hicks
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Jay C Vollmer
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Jeffrey Taylor
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Marcel Broekman
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propheci
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Robert C. Paulsen Jr.
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Tim Prince