Aaron Kulkis wrote:

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Same goes for HTML -- if they take the time to write something in HTML -- and it looks nice -- maybe you should listen to them for aesthetic ideas... flash graphics should stay off limits -- but pictures showing relevant design content or problems seem entirely appropriate. For those posting in HTML, they should be encouraged, privately, to also supply/send the message in plain-text as well as HTML.

Or, more often than not (99.999999995% of the time), the HTML is just a 300% overhead for absolutely NO benefit, not counting all of the stupid sparkly crap graphics that some morons seem to think improve their messages, while in fact, just guaranteeing that I will delete it for being a waste of space.

Reread what I said. You are not getting my message. I said HTML supported by pictures showing relevant design content or problems -- and NO flash (or flashy) graphics. I say what I mean and what I don't mean and then you throw out examples that I explicitly say are off limits. Are you dense, or just trying to provoke argument?

I really don't need 5-line messages that take 1 MB of disk space.

HTML doesn't take 1MB of space. it may be 3K, or 5K instead of 1K, but that's pinching pennies in this day and age.

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You go onto microsoft lists, and probably apple lists -- and HTML is far more common.

I guess if you're a person who values style over substance, than I suggest migrating to Vista.

You guess wrong. I don't value style OVER substance, but substance without style won't sell to the masses. Why are there so many *styles* of cars? Of clothing? To appeal to people. *function* is *assumed*, it's the basic thing that should fit into the background. But style is what sells the products -- usability, style, plug-n-play, ease-of-use -- not whether it can computer the n'th digit of pi better or faster than another machine. Look at the market -- people are downgrading function for style and ease of carrying, portability -- notebooks are replacing lap tops because they still have the functions, but the styling of the product (size, weight, etc) are winning the day. Ignore style and you deny yourself the ability to sell your ideas -- it doesn't make your ideas any less intelligent or more intelligent, but it affects the the masses who we, as tech people, need to support us in developing cool tech. Every time someone slaps someone else's hand for showing a different 'style (writing by posting on top as example), they putting people off. All I'm saying is that stylistics rules should be relatively relaxed in a casual discussion or help forum to allow people to communicate in whatever way they best can (with restrictions as I previously mentioned). The problem with so many tech people, is its all black or white. A or B. They work too long with computers. People aren't binary and neither should be rules. I value style without substance is worthless, but equally, substance without style is ugly or unwanted. It starts here. -l -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org