[SLE] FYI - Mozilla M14 and Corel WPO2000
I've been running Mozilla Milestone14 for three days now. Unlike Netscape 4.7.2, which hung the keyboard and mouse frequently on java loop displays of animated gifs, M14 never does. M14, however, is slower than 4.7.2 by 25 to 35%. I have had 6 crashes in the three days I have had M14 installed. There is no reproducible pattern to any of the six crashes. At least I don't have to reset my PC to regain control when M14 crashes. The email feature is MUCH slower on M14 than previous versions of Netscape. CNN still does not recognize the Cascading Style Sheets (CSS) of M14, which prevents me from testing the video options. As I said before, I think I'll wait for KDE's Konquorer. Corel WordPerfect Office 2000 Delux edition will not load on a SuSE 6.3 box. While one problem may be attributable to the odd way SuSE packages glibc, an even larger problem exists in the rpms that Corel supplied. They don't work. Specifically, the WPO2000-full, which is 82MB of files, makes lots of motions, but the primary installation program, setupWPO2000, is not installed. Apparently other files are missing too. I don't know how easy it would be for SuSE to reconfigure their glibc package to match the other major distros, but I think it would be pretty tough install a 33MB RH glibc2.1.1 rpm on a SuSE 6.3 box and not blow away the installation. Would it be too late for SuSE to reconfigure 6.4 before the release date to match the glibc config of other distros? Probably. Will Corel techies be able to generate a set of CDs that would install against a SUSE 6.3 box within 30 days. I hope so, but I am not optimistic. The Corel techie's last word to me was: "Hi guys, I've forwarded the description below to our packaging team - I'm honestly not familiar enough with the packaging issues to help beyond this point. I do know that a web page is being prepared with detailed install info for SUSE, Caldera, and a few other distributions, so hopefully that will solve the problems below." The "guys" refered to are Avi Schwartz and myself. I don't know about Avi, but Gavriel State's last msg doesn't give a time frame and does not give one a sense of resolution any time soon. The retailer, and Corel itself, gives a 30 day refund time frame. I've offered to help in any way I can. But, if I don't hear any more from them within the next week, I shall return WPO2000. Jerry PS - I have not opened the sealed package that contains the limited edition of RailRoad Tycoon II, from Loki, either. :-( -- __ _ / / (_)__ __ ____ __ * Powerful * Flexible * Compatible * Reliable * / /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / *Well Supported * Thousands of New Users Every Day* /____/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ The Cost Effective Choice - Linux Means Business! -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
I've been running Mozilla Milestone14 for three days now. Unlike Netscape 4.7.2, which hung the keyboard and mouse frequently on java loop displays of animated gifs, M14 never does. M14, however, is slower than 4.7.2 by 25 to 35%. I have had 6 crashes in the three days I have had M14 installed. There is no reproducible pattern to any of the six crashes. At least I don't have to reset my PC to regain control when M14 crashes. The email feature is MUCH slower on M14 than previous versions of Netscape. CNN still does not recognize the Cascading Style Sheets (CSS) of M14, which prevents me from testing the video options. As I said before, I think I'll wait for KDE's Konquorer.
Go easy on Mozilla. It's still alpha, so critising it is a bit unfair. There's still loads of assertions and debug code in there so it's hardly suprising it's slow. The beta is due out this week, which should be at least feature complete, but I would suggest you avoid that too, unless you really understand what you are looking at: this isn't finished code, it's unfair to moan about crashes and poor performance. On the bright side, Mozilla M14 seems to run a fair bit faster than Netscape 4.7 on my SMP box. I've a feeling they've threaded the new rendering engine. -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
I've been running Mozilla Milestone14 for three days now. Unlike Netscape 4.7.2, which hung the keyboard and mouse frequently on java loop displays of animated gifs, M14 never does. M14, however, is slower than 4.7.2 by 25 to 35%. I have had 6 crashes in the three days I have had M14 installed. There is no reproducible pattern to any of the six crashes. At least I don't have to reset my PC to regain control when M14 crashes. The email feature is MUCH slower on M14 than previous versions of Netscape. CNN still does not recognize the Cascading Style Sheets (CSS) of M14, which prevents me from testing the video options. As I said before, I think I'll wait for KDE's Konquorer.
Operasoft has released the technical preview #3 of their linux browser, it is getting closer to being ready for prime tinme. The Opera browser has a different feel than the others but it is nice. joe -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
On Mon, 03 Apr 2000, you wrote:
I've been running Mozilla Milestone14 for three days now. Unlike Netscape 4.7.2, which hung the keyboard and mouse frequently on java loop displays of animated gifs, M14 never does. M14, however, is slower than 4.7.2 by 25 to 35%. I have had 6 crashes in the three days I have had M14 installed. There is no reproducible pattern to any of the six crashes. At least I don't have to reset my PC to regain control when M14 crashes. The email feature is MUCH slower on M14 than previous versions of Netscape. CNN still does not recognize the Cascading Style Sheets (CSS) of M14, which prevents me from testing the video options. As I said before, I think I'll wait for KDE's Konquorer.
Go easy on Mozilla. It's still alpha, so critising it is a bit unfair. There's still loads of assertions and debug code
I'm doing more than 'going easy'. I am running the FullCircle release and automatically reporting all errors to Mozilla. In fact, I thought I was being complimentary. The issues I raise are constructive criticisms. Mozilla will not 'live long and prosper' if the speed issues and CSS issues are not addressed. The auto reporting facility doesn't trigger on slow speed or compatibility issues. And, I will still waite to evaluate Konquorer before I decide which browser I will use. BTW, When I was running WinXX I also bought Opera's browser and used it, and except for the fact that it didn't have a mail-newreader program with it, it was pretty good. I don't plan to purchase the Opera for Linux browser though. JLK
in there so it's hardly suprising it's slow. The beta is due out this week, which should be at least feature complete, but I would suggest you avoid that too, unless you really understand what you are looking at: this isn't finished code, it's unfair to moan about crashes and poor performance.
On the bright side, Mozilla M14 seems to run a fair bit faster than Netscape 4.7 on my SMP box. I've a feeling they've threaded the new rendering engine.
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