[opensuse] Networking _was_ working, now it isn't.
This is on a laptop running oS v11.4 / kde v4.6 I was using the machine, connected wireless. I wanted to make sure that kmail wouild be isolated temporarily from the network, so I opened the networkmanager icon and unchecked wireless. Now I want to restore the network to normal operation. I cannot cause the networkmanager icon to reappear. Clicking on the "Show hidden icons" lists "Network Management"; clicking on that shows: Network management disabled <-- greyed out Enable networking <-- checked Enable wireless. <-- checked In switching from ifup control to networkmanager control, a dialog box appears informing me that "Applet needed", and informing me that if it is installed, I should start it manually; but running knetworkmanager in konsole does nothing except return to the prompt. The system's response to any attempt to reach out to the world is "No network running". A search reports lots of reported problems about networkmanager, but I haven't found this one yet. How can I -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
This is on a laptop running oS v11.4 / kde v4.6
I was using the machine, connected wireless. I wanted to make sure that kmail wouild be isolated temporarily from the network, so I opened the networkmanager icon and unchecked wireless.
Now I want to restore the network to normal operation. I cannot cause the networkmanager icon to reappear. Clicking on the "Show hidden icons" lists "Network Management"; clicking on that shows:
Network management disabled <-- greyed out Enable networking <-- checked Enable wireless. <-- checked
In switching from ifup control to networkmanager control, a dialog box appears informing me that "Applet needed", and informing me that if it is installed, I should start it manually; but running knetworkmanager in konsole does nothing except return to the prompt.
The system's response to any attempt to reach out to the world is "No network running".
A search reports lots of reported problems about networkmanager, but I haven't found this one yet.
How can I -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel Hi Stan,
On Mon, 2011-03-21 at 23:40 +0200, Stan Goodman wrote: try this: Gecko--> Applications Tab --> System --> Desktop Applet --> NetworkManager that should get it running. Click on the applet in the taskbar, and enable wireless. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Mon, 2011-03-21 at 17:47 -0400, Mark Misulich wrote:
This is on a laptop running oS v11.4 / kde v4.6
I was using the machine, connected wireless. I wanted to make sure that kmail wouild be isolated temporarily from the network, so I opened the networkmanager icon and unchecked wireless.
Now I want to restore the network to normal operation. I cannot cause the networkmanager icon to reappear. Clicking on the "Show hidden icons" lists "Network Management"; clicking on that shows:
Network management disabled <-- greyed out Enable networking <-- checked Enable wireless. <-- checked
In switching from ifup control to networkmanager control, a dialog box appears informing me that "Applet needed", and informing me that if it is installed, I should start it manually; but running knetworkmanager in konsole does nothing except return to the prompt.
The system's response to any attempt to reach out to the world is "No network running".
A search reports lots of reported problems about networkmanager, but I haven't found this one yet.
How can I -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel Hi Stan,
On Mon, 2011-03-21 at 23:40 +0200, Stan Goodman wrote: try this:
Gecko--> Applications Tab --> System --> Desktop Applet --> NetworkManager
that should get it running. Click on the applet in the taskbar, and enable wireless.
Hi, I think that I misread your question in the last post, I thought that you had reenabled connect with networkmanager in yast global settings. If you are still using ifup and can't connect, go back to networkmanager in yast. Sometimes ifup doesn't work in 11.3 and 11.4 for no apparent reason. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 22 March 2011 at 00:48:50 (GMT+2) Mark Misulich <munguanaweza@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 2011-03-21 at 17:47 -0400, Mark Misulich wrote:
On Mon, 2011-03-21 at 23:40 +0200, Stan Goodman wrote:
This is on a laptop running oS v11.4 / kde v4.6
I was using the machine, connected wireless. I wanted to make sure that kmail wouild be isolated temporarily from the network, so I opened the networkmanager icon and unchecked wireless.
Now I want to restore the network to normal operation. I cannot cause the networkmanager icon to reappear. Clicking on the "Show hidden icons" lists "Network Management"; clicking on that shows:
Network management disabled <-- greyed out Enable networking <-- checked Enable wireless. <-- checked
In switching from ifup control to networkmanager control, a dialog box appears informing me that "Applet needed", and informing me that if it is installed, I should start it manually; but running knetworkmanager in konsole does nothing except return to the prompt.
The system's response to any attempt to reach out to the world is "No network running".
A search reports lots of reported problems about networkmanager, but I haven't found this one yet.
How can I
Hi Stan, try this:
Gecko--> Applications Tab --> System --> Desktop Applet --> NetworkManager
that should get it running. Click on the applet in the taskbar, and enable wireless.
Hi, I think that I misread your question in the last post, I thought that you had reenabled connect with networkmanager in yast global settings. If you are still using ifup and can't connect, go back to networkmanager in yast. Sometimes ifup doesn't work in 11.3 and 11.4 for no apparent reason.
I have tried connecting with both ifup and the networkmanager, with equal !results. -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
on a very desperate attempt you could try this: iwconfig wlan0 essid <your essid> iwconfig wlan0 ap <mac address for your ap> iwconfig wlan0 key <your network key> and finally dhclient wlan0 if i understood correctly you are unable to check "use networkmanager" option, is it? 2011/3/21 Stan Goodman <stan.goodman@hashkedim.com>:
On Tuesday 22 March 2011 at 00:48:50 (GMT+2) Mark Misulich <munguanaweza@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 2011-03-21 at 17:47 -0400, Mark Misulich wrote:
On Mon, 2011-03-21 at 23:40 +0200, Stan Goodman wrote:
This is on a laptop running oS v11.4 / kde v4.6
I was using the machine, connected wireless. I wanted to make sure that kmail wouild be isolated temporarily from the network, so I opened the networkmanager icon and unchecked wireless.
Now I want to restore the network to normal operation. I cannot cause the networkmanager icon to reappear. Clicking on the "Show hidden icons" lists "Network Management"; clicking on that shows:
Network management disabled <-- greyed out Enable networking <-- checked Enable wireless. <-- checked
In switching from ifup control to networkmanager control, a dialog box appears informing me that "Applet needed", and informing me that if it is installed, I should start it manually; but running knetworkmanager in konsole does nothing except return to the prompt.
The system's response to any attempt to reach out to the world is "No network running".
A search reports lots of reported problems about networkmanager, but I haven't found this one yet.
How can I
Hi Stan, try this:
Gecko--> Applications Tab --> System --> Desktop Applet --> NetworkManager
that should get it running. Click on the applet in the taskbar, and enable wireless.
Hi, I think that I misread your question in the last post, I thought that you had reenabled connect with networkmanager in yast global settings. If you are still using ifup and can't connect, go back to networkmanager in yast. Sometimes ifup doesn't work in 11.3 and 11.4 for no apparent reason.
I have tried connecting with both ifup and the networkmanager, with equal !results.
-- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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On Tuesday 22 March 2011 at 01:13:56 (GMT+2) Leonardo <sombriks@gmail.com> wrote:
on a very desperate attempt you could try this:
iwconfig wlan0 essid <your essid> iwconfig wlan0 ap <mac address for your ap> iwconfig wlan0 key <your network key>
and finally
dhclient wlan0
if i understood correctly you are unable to check "use networkmanager" option, is it?
I can check either "use networkmanager" ir ifup in YaST, and there is no complaint from YaST. But there is no connection either way. I cannot understand how the act of turning off a wireless connection can produce this condition, so I begin to think there is a hardware problem, maybe an intermittent connection of the WiFi card that happened to turn off at a critical moment.
2011/3/21 Stan Goodman <stan.goodman@hashkedim.com>:
On Tuesday 22 March 2011 at 00:48:50 (GMT+2) Mark Misulich
<munguanaweza@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 2011-03-21 at 17:47 -0400, Mark Misulich wrote:
On Mon, 2011-03-21 at 23:40 +0200, Stan Goodman wrote:
This is on a laptop running oS v11.4 / kde v4.6
I was using the machine, connected wireless. I wanted to make sure that kmail wouild be isolated temporarily from the network, so I opened the networkmanager icon and unchecked wireless.
Now I want to restore the network to normal operation. I cannot cause the networkmanager icon to reappear. Clicking on the "Show hidden icons" lists "Network Management"; clicking on that shows:
Network management disabled <-- greyed out Enable networking <-- checked Enable wireless. <-- checked
In switching from ifup control to networkmanager control, a dialog box appears informing me that "Applet needed", and informing me that if it is installed, I should start it manually; but running knetworkmanager in konsole does nothing except return to the prompt.
The system's response to any attempt to reach out to the world is "No network running".
A search reports lots of reported problems about networkmanager, but I haven't found this one yet.
How can I
Hi Stan, try this:
Gecko--> Applications Tab --> System --> Desktop Applet --> NetworkManager
that should get it running. Click on the applet in the taskbar, and enable wireless.
Hi, I think that I misread your question in the last post, I thought that you had reenabled connect with networkmanager in yast global settings. If you are still using ifup and can't connect, go back to networkmanager in yast. Sometimes ifup doesn't work in 11.3 and 11.4 for no apparent reason.
I have tried connecting with both ifup and the networkmanager, with equal !results.
-- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tue, 2011-03-22 at 00:49 +0200, Stan Goodman wrote:
On Tuesday 22 March 2011 at 00:48:50 (GMT+2) Mark Misulich <munguanaweza@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 2011-03-21 at 17:47 -0400, Mark Misulich wrote:
On Mon, 2011-03-21 at 23:40 +0200, Stan Goodman wrote:
This is on a laptop running oS v11.4 / kde v4.6
I was using the machine, connected wireless. I wanted to make sure that kmail wouild be isolated temporarily from the network, so I opened the networkmanager icon and unchecked wireless.
Now I want to restore the network to normal operation. I cannot cause the networkmanager icon to reappear. Clicking on the "Show hidden icons" lists "Network Management"; clicking on that shows:
Network management disabled <-- greyed out Enable networking <-- checked Enable wireless. <-- checked
In switching from ifup control to networkmanager control, a dialog box appears informing me that "Applet needed", and informing me that if it is installed, I should start it manually; but running knetworkmanager in konsole does nothing except return to the prompt.
The system's response to any attempt to reach out to the world is "No network running".
A search reports lots of reported problems about networkmanager, but I haven't found this one yet.
How can I
Hi Stan, try this:
Gecko--> Applications Tab --> System --> Desktop Applet --> NetworkManager
that should get it running. Click on the applet in the taskbar, and enable wireless.
Hi, I think that I misread your question in the last post, I thought that you had reenabled connect with networkmanager in yast global settings. If you are still using ifup and can't connect, go back to networkmanager in yast. Sometimes ifup doesn't work in 11.3 and 11.4 for no apparent reason.
I have tried connecting with both ifup and the networkmanager, with equal !results.
-- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel Hi, yes, so have I. In fact, ifup is working well on my laptop now in both 11.3 & 4. Sometimes however, it just won't work and persists in doing so. I don't know why.
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On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 23:49, Stan Goodman wrote:
On Tuesday 22 March 2011 at 00:48:50 (GMT+2) Mark Misulich wrote:
On Mon, 2011-03-21 at 17:47 -0400, Mark Misulich wrote:
On Mon, 2011-03-21 at 23:40 +0200, Stan Goodman wrote:
This is on a laptop running oS v11.4 / kde v4.6
I was using the machine, connected wireless. I wanted to make sure that kmail wouild be isolated temporarily from the network, so I opened the networkmanager icon and unchecked wireless.
Now I want to restore the network to normal operation. I cannot cause the networkmanager icon to reappear. Clicking on the "Show hidden icons" lists "Network Management"; clicking on that shows:
Network management disabled <-- greyed out Enable networking <-- checked Enable wireless. <-- checked
In switching from ifup control to networkmanager control, a dialog box appears informing me that "Applet needed", and informing me that if it is installed, I should start it manually; but running knetworkmanager in konsole does nothing except return to the prompt.
The system's response to any attempt to reach out to the world is "No network running".
A search reports lots of reported problems about networkmanager, but I haven't found this one yet.
How can I
Hi Stan, try this:
Gecko--> Applications Tab --> System --> Desktop Applet --> NetworkManager
that should get it running. Click on the applet in the taskbar, and enable wireless.
Hi, I think that I misread your question in the last post, I thought that you had reenabled connect with networkmanager in yast global settings. If you are still using ifup and can't connect, go back to networkmanager in yast. Sometimes ifup doesn't work in 11.3 and 11.4 for no apparent reason.
I have tried connecting with both ifup and the networkmanager, with equal !results.
I've seen this behavior... male sure your settings are where they should be - ie you've still got network manager enabled (but possibly not seeing the network) and then reboot. Reboot should hopefully work to wake things back up and get all working again - at least it has for me when I've been stuck in the same situation. For what it's worth, I've seen the same thing happen on non-Linux OSes. Flip the software switch to turn off the WiFi and that's it... it's off until the laptop is restarted, and no amount of fiddling in the software will get the WiFi to restart. Note this is not every time... just sometimes... on some hardware... Of course this is not optimal, and a bug report is probably in order if a simple reboot "fixes" things. C. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 23 March 2011 at 13:35:43 (GMT+2) C <smaug42@gmail.com> wrote:
For what it's worth, I've seen the same thing happen on non-Linux OSes. Flip the software switch to turn off the WiFi and that's it... it's off until the laptop is restarted, and no amount of fiddling in the software will get the WiFi to restart. Note this is not every time... just sometimes... on some hardware...
All is working as it should now. Thanks. -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 17:47:09 -0400 Mark Misulich <munguanaweza@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 2011-03-21 at 23:40 +0200, Stan Goodman wrote:
This is on a laptop running oS v11.4 / kde v4.6
I was using the machine, connected wireless. I wanted to make sure that kmail wouild be isolated temporarily from the network, so I opened the networkmanager icon and unchecked wireless.
Now I want to restore the network to normal operation. I cannot cause the networkmanager icon to reappear. Clicking on the "Show hidden icons" lists "Network Management"; clicking on that shows: <snipped>
Is this option too 'brutal?' you@linux:~> su - <enter> Password: <root password> you@linux:~> rcnetwork restart you@linux:~> exit hth & regards, Carl -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 22 March 2011 at 00:55:57 (GMT+2) Carl Hartung <suselinux@cehartung.com> wrote:
Now I want to restore the network to normal operation. I cannot cause the networkmanager icon to reappear. Clicking on the "Show
hidden icons" lists "Network Management"; clicking on that shows: <snipped>
Is this option too 'brutal?'
you@linux:~> su - <enter> Password: <root password> you@linux:~> rcnetwork restart you@linux:~> exit
hth & regards,
Neither brutal nor effective. I still have "Network disabled". Can't ping anything. -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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