On 4/15/07, Rajko M. wrote:

On Sunday 15 April 2007 11:20, Jan van Veldhuizen wrote:

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I am not available to use software.opensuse.org this afternoon (sunday, april 15th). Is there a mirror site available?

Jan

http://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/repositories/

it is the same on any mirror. Find opensuse and change to repositories.

Same here, but I can't understand why both zypper and YaST2 updater are trying to read repodata from oss and non-oss repositories? I set them non-refreshable (10.2 with zmd removed). -- Mark Goldstein -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On 4/16/07, Rajko M. wrote:

Mark,

look at TCP/IP traffic. There is nothing if you disable refresh for all sources. What I see is short burst when it is refreshing update repository, packman and guru, and than nothing. The rest of activity is data base check.

Thanks Rajko, My impression is that somehow local data base was "invalidated". I did not analyze traffic, but I used "zypper -v up" and also observed it in YaST2 message boxes, that both updaters were definitely re-reading patches and package descriptions from non-oss and oss repositories on download.opensuse.org. So it took a lot of time (and during this time I observed zypper indicating [-21879%] readiness of package file :-( ) . I thought it may be something with my home machine, but today I ran update on my office machine that was NOT on the network yesterday and I can see that zypper re-reads oss and non-oss repositories also. Looks like there is some indication for updater to re-read repository even though it is marked as non-refreshable. Regards, -- Mark Goldstein -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Sunday 15 April 2007 23:36, Mark Goldstein wrote:

On 4/16/07, Rajko M. wrote:

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Mark,

look at TCP/IP traffic. There is nothing if you disable refresh for all sources. What I see is short burst when it is refreshing update repository, packman and guru, and than nothing. The rest of activity is data base check.

Thanks Rajko,

My impression is that somehow local data base was "invalidated". I did not analyze traffic, but I used "zypper -v up" and also observed it in YaST2 message boxes, that both updaters were definitely re-reading patches and package descriptions from non-oss and oss repositories on download.opensuse.org. So it took a lot of time (and during this time I observed zypper indicating [-21879%] readiness of package file :-( ) . I thought it may be something with my home machine, but today I ran update on my office machine that was NOT on the network yesterday and I can see that zypper re-reads oss and non-oss repositories also. Looks like there is some indication for updater to re-read repository even though it is marked as non-refreshable.

My first post was about YOU (online updates) that is not that verbose. Now zypper -v pch and it downloaded only repositories marked to be refreshable. zypper -v ref refreshed everything as expected. zypper -v up is acting like first command zypper -v pch.

[-21879%] I got even better, but temporary, the final number is 100%. and observed even more glitches in output, but I have to run zypper in another terminal to see the output. Done. It is the same. So it seems to be a bug in zypper output.

-- Regards, Rajko. http://en.opensuse.org/Portal -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Tuesday 17 April 2007 13:28, Mark Goldstein wrote:

Probably when I tried to update during period that servers were intermittently unaccessible, some local repository data was corrupted and for that reason zypper re-read everything.

That might be the reason, but is it a bug or feature :-) -- Regards, Rajko. http://en.opensuse.org/Portal -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Hi, On 4/18/07, Rajko M. wrote:

On Tuesday 17 April 2007 13:28, Mark Goldstein wrote:

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Probably when I tried to update during period that servers were intermittently unaccessible, some local repository data was corrupted and for that reason zypper re-read everything.

That might be the reason, but is it a bug or feature :-)

I'm back to this thread. I think now I can reproduce this situation reliably. My laptop with 10.2 is not connected to the network most of the time. But I have opensuse updater running. Somehow after it fails to restore sources, it cleans up the cache as well. When I then connect to the network, zypper starts full downloading of repositories, even those needing no updates. I have full zypper.log, starting after successful update in not connected state, but it is quite long (compressed with bz2 to 260 KB), so do not want to post it. BTW, though my system is x86, zypper downloads all patches for x86, x86-64 and even ppc. Looks wrong to me? Does it deserve bug report? Regards, -- Mark Goldstein -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On 5/26/07, Rajko M. wrote:

On Friday 25 May 2007 10:54, Mark Goldstein wrote:

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I think now I can reproduce this situation reliably. My laptop with 10.2 is not connected to the network most of the time. But I have opensuse updater running. Somehow after it fails to restore sources, it cleans up the cache as well. When I then connect to the network, zypper starts full downloading of repositories, even those needing no updates. I have full zypper.log, starting after successful update in not connected state, but it is quite long (compressed with bz2 to 260 KB), so do not want to post it.

BTW, though my system is x86, zypper downloads all patches for x86, x86-64 and even ppc. Looks wrong to me?

Does it deserve bug report?

I'm not sure Mark, as software management is under heavy reconstruction. IMHO better file it, just to make sure they know about the issue.

I also think so. Submitted, #278413. Thanks. -- Mark Goldstein -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org