[opensuse] software.opensuse.org down?
I am not available to use software.opensuse.org this afternoon (sunday, april 15th). Is there a mirror site available? Jan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sunday 15 April 2007 11:20, Jan van Veldhuizen wrote:
I am not available to use software.opensuse.org this afternoon (sunday, april 15th). Is there a mirror site available?
Jan
http://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/repositories/ it is the same on any mirror. Find opensuse and change to repositories. -- Regards, Rajko. http://en.opensuse.org/Portal -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 4/15/07, Rajko M. <rmatov101@charter.net> wrote:
On Sunday 15 April 2007 11:20, Jan van Veldhuizen wrote:
I am not available to use software.opensuse.org this afternoon (sunday, april 15th). Is there a mirror site available?
Jan
http://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/repositories/
it is the same on any mirror. Find opensuse and change to repositories.
Same here, but I can't understand why both zypper and YaST2 updater are trying to read repodata from oss and non-oss repositories? I set them non-refreshable (10.2 with zmd removed). -- Mark Goldstein -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sunday 15 April 2007 12:05, Mark Goldstein wrote:
On 4/15/07, Rajko M. <rmatov101@charter.net> wrote:
On Sunday 15 April 2007 11:20, Jan van Veldhuizen wrote:
I am not available to use software.opensuse.org this afternoon (sunday, april 15th). Is there a mirror site available?
Jan
http://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/repositories/
it is the same on any mirror. Find opensuse and change to repositories.
Same here, but I can't understand why both zypper and YaST2 updater are trying to read repodata from oss and non-oss repositories? I set them non-refreshable (10.2 with zmd removed).
Mark, look at TCP/IP traffic. There is nothing if you disable refresh for all sources. What I see is short burst when it is refreshing update repository, packman and guru, and than nothing. The rest of activity is data base check. -- Regards, Rajko. http://en.opensuse.org/Portal -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 4/16/07, Rajko M. <rmatov101@charter.net> wrote:
Mark,
look at TCP/IP traffic. There is nothing if you disable refresh for all sources. What I see is short burst when it is refreshing update repository, packman and guru, and than nothing. The rest of activity is data base check.
Thanks Rajko, My impression is that somehow local data base was "invalidated". I did not analyze traffic, but I used "zypper -v up" and also observed it in YaST2 message boxes, that both updaters were definitely re-reading patches and package descriptions from non-oss and oss repositories on download.opensuse.org. So it took a lot of time (and during this time I observed zypper indicating [-21879%] readiness of package file :-( ) . I thought it may be something with my home machine, but today I ran update on my office machine that was NOT on the network yesterday and I can see that zypper re-reads oss and non-oss repositories also. Looks like there is some indication for updater to re-read repository even though it is marked as non-refreshable. Regards, -- Mark Goldstein -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Mon April 16 2007, Mark Goldstein scratched these words onto a coconut shell, hoping for an answer:
On 4/16/07, Rajko M. <rmatov101@charter.net> wrote:
Mark,
look at TCP/IP traffic. There is nothing if you disable refresh for all sources. What I see is short burst when it is refreshing update repository, packman and guru, and than nothing. The rest of activity is data base check.
Thanks Rajko,
My impression is that somehow local data base was "invalidated". I did not analyze traffic, but I used "zypper -v up" and also observed it in YaST2 message boxes, that both updaters were definitely re-reading patches and package descriptions from non-oss and oss repositories on download.opensuse.org. So it took a lot of time (and during this time I observed zypper indicating [-21879%] readiness of package file :-( ) . I thought it may be something with my home machine, but today I ran update on my office machine that was NOT on the network yesterday and I can see that zypper re-reads oss and non-oss repositories also. Looks like there is some indication for updater to re-read repository even though it is marked as non-refreshable.
yup, here it re-reads a local directory that once was used for installation of one program setup that needed lots of little things ( multimedia stuff ) once the things were installed I marked it not to be refreshed and not to be used.. ( status is disabled ) It was read and re-read all the time even tho it's marked disabled . Fortunately it's a small directory, if it were large , or if there were lots of subdirectories it would be a royal pita. -- j I've lived in the real world enough, we're all here because we ain't all there. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sunday 15 April 2007 23:36, Mark Goldstein wrote:
On 4/16/07, Rajko M. <rmatov101@charter.net> wrote:
Mark,
look at TCP/IP traffic. There is nothing if you disable refresh for all sources. What I see is short burst when it is refreshing update repository, packman and guru, and than nothing. The rest of activity is data base check.
Thanks Rajko,
My impression is that somehow local data base was "invalidated". I did not analyze traffic, but I used "zypper -v up" and also observed it in YaST2 message boxes, that both updaters were definitely re-reading patches and package descriptions from non-oss and oss repositories on download.opensuse.org. So it took a lot of time (and during this time I observed zypper indicating [-21879%] readiness of package file :-( ) . I thought it may be something with my home machine, but today I ran update on my office machine that was NOT on the network yesterday and I can see that zypper re-reads oss and non-oss repositories also. Looks like there is some indication for updater to re-read repository even though it is marked as non-refreshable.
My first post was about YOU (online updates) that is not that verbose. Now zypper -v pch and it downloaded only repositories marked to be refreshable. zypper -v ref refreshed everything as expected. zypper -v up is acting like first command zypper -v pch.
[-21879%] I got even better, but temporary, the final number is 100%. and observed even more glitches in output, but I have to run zypper in another terminal to see the output. Done. It is the same. So it seems to be a bug in zypper output.
-- Regards, Rajko. http://en.opensuse.org/Portal -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 4/17/07, Rajko M. <rmatov101@charter.net> wrote:
On Sunday 15 April 2007 23:36, Mark Goldstein wrote:
On 4/16/07, Rajko M. <rmatov101@charter.net> wrote: Hi, zypper -v pch and it downloaded only repositories marked to be refreshable. zypper -v ref refreshed everything as expected. zypper -v up is acting like first command zypper -v pch.
Yes, now it's OK on my machines also. So it happened to me once after the servers were down and up again (but on 2 different machines). Not sure what it means. Is there any signature or something that has changed and that updater checks? Most probably no, otherwise it would happen to others as well. Probably when I tried to update during period that servers were intermittently unaccessible, some local repository data was corrupted and for that reason zypper re-read everything.
[-21879%] I got even better, but temporary, the final number is 100%. and observed even more glitches in output, but I have to run zypper in another terminal to see the output. Done. It is the same. So it seems to be a bug in zypper output.
Cosmetic one... -- Mark Goldstein -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 17 April 2007 13:28, Mark Goldstein wrote:
Probably when I tried to update during period that servers were intermittently unaccessible, some local repository data was corrupted and for that reason zypper re-read everything.
That might be the reason, but is it a bug or feature :-) -- Regards, Rajko. http://en.opensuse.org/Portal -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 4/18/07, Rajko M. <rmatov101@charter.net> wrote:
On Tuesday 17 April 2007 13:28, Mark Goldstein wrote:
Probably when I tried to update during period that servers were intermittently unaccessible, some local repository data was corrupted and for that reason zypper re-read everything.
That might be the reason, but is it a bug or feature :-)
Well, next time I'll see it, I'll try to investigate. I remember killing zypper some times when it seemingly stuck. Maybe the signals are not handled accurately? -- Mark Goldstein -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Hi, On 4/18/07, Rajko M. <rmatov101@charter.net> wrote:
On Tuesday 17 April 2007 13:28, Mark Goldstein wrote:
Probably when I tried to update during period that servers were intermittently unaccessible, some local repository data was corrupted and for that reason zypper re-read everything.
That might be the reason, but is it a bug or feature :-)
I'm back to this thread. I think now I can reproduce this situation reliably. My laptop with 10.2 is not connected to the network most of the time. But I have opensuse updater running. Somehow after it fails to restore sources, it cleans up the cache as well. When I then connect to the network, zypper starts full downloading of repositories, even those needing no updates. I have full zypper.log, starting after successful update in not connected state, but it is quite long (compressed with bz2 to 260 KB), so do not want to post it. BTW, though my system is x86, zypper downloads all patches for x86, x86-64 and even ppc. Looks wrong to me? Does it deserve bug report? Regards, -- Mark Goldstein -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Friday 25 May 2007 10:54, Mark Goldstein wrote:
Hi,
On 4/18/07, Rajko M. <rmatov101@charter.net> wrote:
On Tuesday 17 April 2007 13:28, Mark Goldstein wrote:
Probably when I tried to update during period that servers were intermittently unaccessible, some local repository data was corrupted and for that reason zypper re-read everything.
That might be the reason, but is it a bug or feature :-)
I'm back to this thread. I think now I can reproduce this situation reliably. My laptop with 10.2 is not connected to the network most of the time. But I have opensuse updater running. Somehow after it fails to restore sources, it cleans up the cache as well. When I then connect to the network, zypper starts full downloading of repositories, even those needing no updates. I have full zypper.log, starting after successful update in not connected state, but it is quite long (compressed with bz2 to 260 KB), so do not want to post it.
BTW, though my system is x86, zypper downloads all patches for x86, x86-64 and even ppc. Looks wrong to me?
Does it deserve bug report?
I'm not sure Mark, as software management is under heavy reconstruction. IMHO better file it, just to make sure they know about the issue. -- Regards, Rajko. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 5/26/07, Rajko M. <rmatov101@charter.net> wrote:
On Friday 25 May 2007 10:54, Mark Goldstein wrote:
I think now I can reproduce this situation reliably. My laptop with 10.2 is not connected to the network most of the time. But I have opensuse updater running. Somehow after it fails to restore sources, it cleans up the cache as well. When I then connect to the network, zypper starts full downloading of repositories, even those needing no updates. I have full zypper.log, starting after successful update in not connected state, but it is quite long (compressed with bz2 to 260 KB), so do not want to post it.
BTW, though my system is x86, zypper downloads all patches for x86, x86-64 and even ppc. Looks wrong to me?
Does it deserve bug report?
I'm not sure Mark, as software management is under heavy reconstruction. IMHO better file it, just to make sure they know about the issue.
I also think so. Submitted, #278413. Thanks. -- Mark Goldstein -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sunday 15 April 2007 18:20, Jan van Veldhuizen wrote:
I am not available to use software.opensuse.org this afternoon
It and download.opensuse.org are working again. Bye, Steve -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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Jan van Veldhuizen
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jfweber@gilweber.com
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Mark Goldstein
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Rajko M.
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Stephan Binner