[SuSE Linux] Company access to the internet with ISDN
<PRE> Greetings to all, I will shorthly receive an old box ( Pentium 90 with 96 Mb RAM, 1 Gb SCSI drive on ADAPTEC 2940) I was thinking of using this machine to be the dialup server to the Internet and a file server for NT workstations, SGI stations, PC Linux stations ( in a close future ). I was thinking of using Linux because NT on such a machine will be really slow. However I know how to do it on NT Just install : NT server Wingate from Qbik software MDaemon from ALT-N Technologies the ISDN board and that's it . It seems to me that it will be a little more tricky in Linux. the goal is to have people accessing the Internet trough that machine ( wingate ) and this machine calling on a predefined schedule to store the mail locally waiting for user to pick it up ( MDaemon). Are they suggested reading ??? any input will be greatly appreciated. regards to all. GH Portefait -- ---------------------------------------------------------------- Life must be understood backwards. But it must be lived forwards - Søren Kierkegaard -</PRE> <A HREF="bin00010.bin"> S/MIME Cryptographic Signature</A></P>
Sydney, 11 December 1998 - 11:00 AM Hi George, I have a similar NT setup (NT w/s 4.0 with SP 3.0, MDaemon v2.74, Ishare v3.0 and WinPop). My mail system just crashed last night without any warning, and I was unable to restart MDaemon (as an NT service), so I have to reinstall the whole stuff. I am very interested in your project, can you let me know how you progress? Thanks, Ioan Nemes inemes@transylvania.com.au Georges-Henry Portefait wrote:
Greetings to all,
I will shorthly receive an old box ( Pentium 90 with 96 Mb RAM, 1 Gb SCSI drive on ADAPTEC 2940)
I was thinking of using this machine to be the dialup server to the Internet and a file server for NT workstations, SGI stations, PC Linux stations ( in a close future ).
I was thinking of using Linux
because NT on such a machine will be really slow. However I know how to do it on NT
Just install : NT server Wingate from Qbik software MDaemon from ALT-N Technologies the ISDN board and that's it .
It seems to me that it will be a little more tricky in Linux.
the goal is to have people accessing the Internet trough that machine ( wingate ) and this machine calling on a predefined schedule to store the mail locally waiting for user to pick it up ( MDaemon).
Are they suggested reading ???
any input will be greatly appreciated.
regards to all.
GH Portefait
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<PRE> Hi Ine :) (my first name is georges-Henry if it too much to type use Gh but not george ,please :) If the project goes be sure I'll keep you in touch however. we are still hesitating as the machine as to serve NT workstation users, we might need to run NT server to have user authentification. regards Gh portefait inemes wrote:
Sydney, 11 December 1998 - 11:00 AM
Hi George,
I have a similar NT setup (NT w/s 4.0 with SP 3.0, MDaemon v2.74, Ishare v3.0 and WinPop). My mail system just crashed last night without any warning, and I was unable to restart MDaemon (as an NT service), so I have to reinstall the whole stuff.
I am very interested in your project, can you let me know how you progress?
Thanks,
-- ---------------------------------------------------------------- Life must be understood backwards. But it must be lived forwards - Søren Kierkegaard -</PRE> <A HREF="bin00012.bin"> S/MIME Cryptographic Signature</A></P>
IP-masqurade will work for internet access. I use it here with my lan (NT workstation on one, several windows 95 boxes and one power mac) to access the net. You can configure your mailserver to spool locally with minimal difficulty since that's a fairly common practice anyway, kind of the default... If you want the NT machines to also use some of the file services on your linux box you can compile in (might as well since you have to re-compile in the I4L (ISDN for Linux) and IP-masq (all in the source code, just have to configure and compile the kernel)), set up the samba services/directories/printers/etc (good howto files available and even nicer books from O'Riley <sp?> on the subject, but the howto files and even the stock config files will pretty much show you what's up with samba). Just make sure the ISDN card you purchase is supported by linux (hardware howto will give you a nice list on the SuSE site). I would be careful if you try using wingate, a misconfigured wingate can permit someone to relay through your system and cause you some grief (such as denial of service attacks on others), I've read wallops on some irc servers and an AMAZING number of G-lines and K-lines are sent out due to misconfigured wingate setups being capitalized upon by some miscreants... But for your needs, I'd heartily recommend using SuSE linux with IP-masq, it's completely transparent and once you compile in the option for IP-masq, it "works out of the box" nicely. You MAY also wish to set up firewall services (also part of the package, just compile support for firewall and configure according to the howto file). IN simpler terms: SuSE linux is your dream come true (at least in this case). :)
Greetings to all,
I will shorthly receive an old box ( Pentium 90 with 96 Mb RAM, 1 Gb SCSI drive on ADAPTEC 2940)
I was thinking of using this machine to be the dialup server to the Internet and a file server for NT workstations, SGI stations, PC Linux stations ( in a close future ).
I was thinking of using Linux
because NT on such a machine will be really slow. However I know how to do it on NT
Just install : NT server Wingate from Qbik software MDaemon from ALT-N Technologies the ISDN board and that's it .
It seems to me that it will be a little more tricky in Linux.
the goal is to have people accessing the Internet trough that machine ( wingate ) and this machine calling on a predefined schedule to store the mail locally waiting for user to pick it up ( MDaemon).
Are they suggested reading ???
any input will be greatly appreciated.
regards to all.
GH Portefait
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At 10:33 PM 12/11/98 +0100, you wrote:
IP-masqurade will work for internet access. I use it here with my lan (NT workstation on one, several windows 95 boxes and one power mac) to access the net. You can configure your mailserver to spool locally with minimal difficulty since that's a fairly common practice anyway, kind of the default...
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IN simpler terms: SuSE linux is your dream come true (at least in this case). :)
Greetings to all,
I will shorthly receive an old box ( Pentium 90 with 96 Mb RAM, 1 Gb SCSI drive on ADAPTEC 2940)
I was thinking of using this machine to be the dialup server to the Internet and a file server for NT workstations, SGI stations, PC Linux stations ( in a close future ).
I was thinking of using Linux
<snip> This is not to you in particular, but to those who are considering ISDN for a LAN and have some money buring a hole your pocket :-). Instead of dealing with a dialing server and routing and so forth with that, an elegant (though pricey) solution to this problem is a ISDN LAN modem. I chose this option, even though it was more expensive, because I screw around with my machines a lot (I run NT, linux, BeOS, FreeBSD and OpenBSD on one machine alone) and when I screw up the one that dials in, I have no net access under that OS (or sometimes, any). The LAN modem is OS agnostic and configured through a built in http server. I just use a web browser to configure and then leave it alone. Since I have several machines on my network, it's better for me because I only have to set the default gateway and the DNS server to the address of the modem (determined by me) on each of the machines and it simply works. I know it's pricy and some people like the pain of setting up stuff like this, but it's an option. I work as a admin at work. When I come home, I just want it to work :-) lunaslide * PGP key->pgpkeys.mit.edu port 11371 * * * * * * Lisp has all the visual appeal of oatmeal with fingernail clippings mixed in. (Other than that, it's quite a nice language.) * * * -Larry Wall * * * * * * * - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archiv at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>
The downside of your setup is that you have no firewall service capability. Using one linux box as a gateway would permit you have a firewall for your lan. I also set up a video conferencing reflector for a few cams around the hours, an in-house videoconferencing system (OK, I have a bit too much time on my hands...) and a test irc server for similar purposes (WAY too much time on my hands). Anyone know how to convince linux to make coffee? ;)
This is not to you in particular, but to those who are considering ISDN for a LAN and have some money buring a hole your pocket :-). Instead of dealing with a dialing server and routing and so forth with that, an elegant (though pricey) solution to this problem is a ISDN LAN modem. I chose this option, even though it was more expensive, because I screw around with my machines a lot (I run NT, linux, BeOS, FreeBSD and OpenBSD on one machine alone) and when I screw up the one that dials in, I have no net access under that OS (or sometimes, any). The LAN modem is OS agnostic and configured through a built in http server. I just use a web browser to configure and then leave it alone. Since I have several machines on my network, it's better for me because I only have to set the default gateway and the DNS server to the address of the modem (determined by me) on each of the machines and it simply works.
I know it's pricy and some people like the pain of setting up stuff like this, but it's an option. I work as a admin at work. When I come home, I just want it to work :-)
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At 08:39 PM 12/13/98 +0100, you wrote:
The downside of your setup is that you have no firewall service capability. Using one linux box as a gateway would permit you have a firewall for your lan. I also set up a video conferencing reflector for a few cams around the hours, an in-house videoconferencing system (OK, I have a bit too much time on my hands...) and a test irc server for similar purposes (WAY too much time on my hands).
You can still do this. You put two NICs in the linux firewall, place it between the router and the network and point the other machines to the firewall as the default gateway. This should work. Also, as someone mentioned in a private question, the Accend Pipeline 75 performs the same function as my 3Com, but provides a firewall in the router as part of the package. I cannot attest to the quality of this firewall, or to the quality of the linux firewall for that matter. Since I am not serving anything to the net, I just have incomming unsolicited packets turned off and no one gets in.
Anyone know how to convince linux to make coffee? ;)
Don't give me any ideas like that! I have little enough free time already! :-) lunaslide * PGP key->pgpkeys.mit.edu port 11371 * * * * * * Lisp has all the visual appeal of oatmeal with fingernail clippings mixed in. (Other than that, it's quite a nice language.) * * * -Larry Wall * * * * * * * - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archiv at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>
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