Hello all. I recently set up a wireless router with my internet connection, and bought a Microsoft mn-520 wireless pcmcia adapter for my laptop. I have SuSE 8.1 and have had no luck at all with setting it up. I was wondering if people have had any luck with this card or any other card, and if maybe I should go with some- thing else or not?? Thank you in advance. Mike
On Sat, 2002-12-28 at 23:47, Michael Sacco wrote:
Hello all. I recently set up a wireless router with my internet connection, and bought a Microsoft mn-520 wireless pcmcia adapter for my laptop. I have SuSE 8.1 and have had no luck at all with setting it up. I was wondering if people have had any luck with this card or any other card, and if maybe I should go with some- thing else or not?? Thank you in advance.
Mike
You may want to check the list archives as I asked about wireless PCMCIA cards about 3 weeks ago. The resulting answers from this list indicated that Netgear 401 cards were a fair choice, other cards did not get as many votes in this unscientific poll. Regarding setting up your Microsoft card, what have you done or attempted in order to set up the card? what specific results did you get? Do you know if the microsoft card is based on the orinoco or prism or other chipset which is supported under Linux or does it use a proprietary microsoft chipset? -- Ralph Sanford - If your government does not trust you, rsanford@telusplanet.net - should you trust your government? DH/DSS Key - 0x7A1BEA01
-----Original Message----- On Sat, 2002-12-28 at 23:47, Michael Sacco wrote:
Hello all. I recently set up a wireless router with my internet connection, and bought a Microsoft mn-520 wireless pcmcia adapter for my laptop. I have SuSE 8.1 and have had no luck at all with setting it up. I was wondering if people have had any luck with this card or any other card, and if maybe I should go with some- thing else or not?? Thank you in advance.
Mike
You may want to check the list archives as I asked about wireless PCMCIA cards about 3 weeks ago. The resulting answers from this list indicated that Netgear 401 cards were a fair choice, other cards did not get as many votes in this unscientific poll. Regarding setting up your Microsoft card, what have you done or attempted in order to set up the card? what specific results did you get? Do you know if the microsoft card is based on the orinoco or prism or other chipset which is supported under Linux or does it use a proprietary microsoft chipset? -- Ralph Sanford - If your government does not trust you, rsanford@telusplanet.net - should you trust your government? DH/DSS Key - 0x7A1BEA01 Thank you, Ralph. From what I have tried, I believe that it is based on the prism2 chipset. I downloaded the linux-wlan tarball and built and installed that, and tried to configure the card, to no avail. Everytime I do a "ifup eth-pcmcia-0" it fails, saying no valid interface. The prism2 module does get loaded at boot, and does pick up the pcmcia card, as "dmesg" showed me. This card does work under WindowsXP, so I know it's not a hardware problem.
On Sun, 2002-12-29 at 10:47, Michael Sacco wrote:
-----Original Message----- On Sat, 2002-12-28 at 23:47, Michael Sacco wrote:
Hello all. I recently set up a wireless router with my internet connection, and bought a Microsoft mn-520 wireless pcmcia adapter for my laptop. I have SuSE 8.1 and have had no luck at all with setting it up. I was wondering if people have had any luck with this card or any other card, and if maybe I should go with some- thing else or not?? Thank you in advance.
Mike
You may want to check the list archives as I asked about wireless PCMCIA cards about 3 weeks ago. The resulting answers from this list indicated that Netgear 401 cards were a fair choice, other cards did not get as many votes in this unscientific poll.
Regarding setting up your Microsoft card, what have you done or attempted in order to set up the card? what specific results did you get? Do you know if the microsoft card is based on the orinoco or prism or other chipset which is supported under Linux or does it use a proprietary microsoft chipset?
-- Ralph Sanford - If your government does not trust you, rsanford@telusplanet.net - should you trust your government?
DH/DSS Key - 0x7A1BEA01
Thank you, Ralph. From what I have tried, I believe that it is based on the prism2 chipset. I downloaded the linux-wlan tarball and built and installed that, and tried to configure the card, to no avail. Everytime I do a "ifup eth-pcmcia-0" it fails, saying no valid interface. The prism2 module does get loaded at boot, and does pick up the pcmcia card, as "dmesg" showed me. This card does work under WindowsXP, so I know it's not a hardware problem.
Check the SuSE Database under keyword "wireless" there is an article that gives a little explanation of the various chipsets and how SuSE handles each chipset. If it is indeed a prism2 chipset, then the card should be able to speak to SuSE. Two possible solutions from a guy who has only attempted to set up one pcmcia card: 1. The SuSE wireless article indicates that most prism2 cards will work with the orinoco drivers and there are some advantages to using the orinoco drivers. The article explains how to bind your card to the orinoco drivers. It was a fairly easy modification to a file or two. 2. Using the Netgear 401 card that others have reported success with, I have found that after the laptop is rebooted that the card cannot establish a network connection. lsmod shows that modules orinoco, orinoco-cs and hermes are loaded after the pcmcia card is loaded, but no network connection. A very ugly workaround is to re-run Yast2 -> network/basic -> network card configuration and then open edit the pcmcia card. I do not have to make any changes to the settings, but go fully into the edit routine then finish the configuration. Then everything works fine, I can login as any of the users and have a full network connection. The moment the laptop is turned off, I will have to reconfigure the network card with Yast on the next reboot. PITA! I have a couple of more things to try on this before I specifically ask the list for help. HTH -- Ralph Sanford - If your government does not trust you, rsanford@telusplanet.net - should you trust your government? DH/DSS Key - 0x7A1BEA01
On Sun, 2002-12-29 at 19:00, Ralph Sanford wrote:
On Sun, 2002-12-29 at 10:47, Michael Sacco wrote:
-----Original Message----- On Sat, 2002-12-28 at 23:47, Michael Sacco wrote:
Hello all. I recently set up a wireless router with my internet connection, and bought a Microsoft mn-520 wireless pcmcia adapter for my laptop. I have SuSE 8.1 and have had no luck at all with setting it up. I was wondering if people have had any luck with this card or any other card, and if maybe I should go with some- thing else or not?? Thank you in advance.
Mike
You may want to check the list archives as I asked about wireless PCMCIA cards about 3 weeks ago. The resulting answers from this list indicated that Netgear 401 cards were a fair choice, other cards did not get as many votes in this unscientific poll.
Regarding setting up your Microsoft card, what have you done or attempted in order to set up the card? what specific results did you get? Do you know if the microsoft card is based on the orinoco or prism or other chipset which is supported under Linux or does it use a proprietary microsoft chipset?
-- Ralph Sanford - If your government does not trust you, rsanford@telusplanet.net - should you trust your government?
DH/DSS Key - 0x7A1BEA01
Thank you, Ralph. From what I have tried, I believe that it is based on the prism2 chipset. I downloaded the linux-wlan tarball and built and installed that, and tried to configure the card, to no avail. Everytime I do a "ifup eth-pcmcia-0" it fails, saying no valid interface. The prism2 module does get loaded at boot, and does pick up the pcmcia card, as "dmesg" showed me. This card does work under WindowsXP, so I know it's not a hardware problem.
Check the SuSE Database under keyword "wireless" there is an article that gives a little explanation of the various chipsets and how SuSE handles each chipset. If it is indeed a prism2 chipset, then the card should be able to speak to SuSE. Two possible solutions from a guy who has only attempted to set up one pcmcia card:
1. The SuSE wireless article indicates that most prism2 cards will work with the orinoco drivers and there are some advantages to using the orinoco drivers. The article explains how to bind your card to the orinoco drivers. It was a fairly easy modification to a file or two.
2. Using the Netgear 401 card that others have reported success with, I have found that after the laptop is rebooted that the card cannot establish a network connection. lsmod shows that modules orinoco, orinoco-cs and hermes are loaded after the pcmcia card is loaded, but no network connection. A very ugly workaround is to re-run Yast2 -> network/basic -> network card configuration and then open edit the pcmcia card. I do not have to make any changes to the settings, but go fully into the edit routine then finish the configuration. Then everything works fine, I can login as any of the users and have a full network connection. The moment the laptop is turned off, I will have to reconfigure the network card with Yast on the next reboot. PITA! I have a couple of more things to try on this before I specifically ask the list for help.
HTH
-- Ralph Sanford - If your government does not trust you, rsanford@telusplanet.net - should you trust your government?
DH/DSS Key - 0x7A1BEA01
There is a very good source of info at : http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/ I don't however see any reference to Microsoft cards....... What does cardctl ident or cardctl status give you ? Pete
There is a very good source of info at :
I don't however see any reference to Microsoft cards.......
What does cardctl ident or cardctl status give you ?
Pete
Ok, I have some more information. Here's the output I wrote down from the following commands. # cardctl ident -------------- Socket 1: Product Info: "Microsoft", "Wireless Network Adapter MN-520", "", "1.0.3" Manfid: 0x02d2, 0x0001 Function: 6 (network) -------------- # cardctl status -------------- Socket 1: 5V 16-bit PC Card function 0: [ready] -------------- # dmesg | grep prism -------------- init_module: prism2_cs.o:0.1.16-pre8 Loaded init_module: dev_info is: prism2_cs prism2_cs: index 0x01: Vcc 5.0, irq 3, io 0x0100-0x013f
-----Original Message----- On Sat, 2002-12-28 at 23:47, Michael Sacco wrote:
Hello all. I recently set up a wireless router with my internet connection, and bought a Microsoft mn-520 wireless pcmcia adapter for my laptop. I have SuSE 8.1 and have had no luck at all with setting it up. I was wondering if people have had any luck with this card or any other card, and if maybe I should go with some- thing else or not?? Thank you in advance.
Mike
You may want to check the list archives as I asked about wireless PCMCIA cards about 3 weeks ago. The resulting answers from this list indicated that Netgear 401 cards were a fair choice, other cards did not get as many votes in this unscientific poll.
Regarding setting up your Microsoft card, what have you done or attempted in order to set up the card? what specific results did you get? Do you know if the microsoft card is based on the orinoco or
********************* SUCCESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ********************* Well, sort of. I looked at the SuSE's database and discovered that pcmcia cards that load the prism2_cs module, should load the orinoco_cs instead, so I edited the files that the article spoke of, and restarted the rcpcmcia daemon. It automatically picked up the connection as eth1, and connected. I can now log in to the router/access point. YEA!!! However, the internet is still not accessible, nor can I ping anything else (other computers on the network). There are things that I don't understand when setting up the wireless network using YaST. For example, There's a setting for "nickname". I don't recall entering a nickname. And the other stuff, like what is the difference between SSID and NWID? These things I'm sure I can find out from the previously mentioned websites. -----Original Message----- From: Ralph Sanford [mailto:rsanford@telusplanet.net] Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 2:01 PM To: suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: RE: [SLE] wireless pcmcia cards On Sun, 2002-12-29 at 10:47, Michael Sacco wrote: prism
or other chipset which is supported under Linux or does it use a proprietary microsoft chipset?
-- Ralph Sanford - If your government does not trust you, rsanford@telusplanet.net - should you trust your government?
DH/DSS Key - 0x7A1BEA01
Thank you, Ralph. From what I have tried, I believe that it is based on the prism2 chipset. I downloaded the linux-wlan tarball and built and installed that, and tried to configure the card, to no avail. Everytime I do a "ifup eth-pcmcia-0" it fails, saying no valid interface. The prism2 module does get loaded at boot, and does pick up the pcmcia card, as "dmesg" showed me. This card does work under WindowsXP, so I know it's not a hardware problem.
Check the SuSE Database under keyword "wireless" there is an article that gives a little explanation of the various chipsets and how SuSE handles each chipset. If it is indeed a prism2 chipset, then the card should be able to speak to SuSE. Two possible solutions from a guy who has only attempted to set up one pcmcia card: 1. The SuSE wireless article indicates that most prism2 cards will work with the orinoco drivers and there are some advantages to using the orinoco drivers. The article explains how to bind your card to the orinoco drivers. It was a fairly easy modification to a file or two. 2. Using the Netgear 401 card that others have reported success with, I have found that after the laptop is rebooted that the card cannot establish a network connection. lsmod shows that modules orinoco, orinoco-cs and hermes are loaded after the pcmcia card is loaded, but no network connection. A very ugly workaround is to re-run Yast2 -> network/basic -> network card configuration and then open edit the pcmcia card. I do not have to make any changes to the settings, but go fully into the edit routine then finish the configuration. Then everything works fine, I can login as any of the users and have a full network connection. The moment the laptop is turned off, I will have to reconfigure the network card with Yast on the next reboot. PITA! I have a couple of more things to try on this before I specifically ask the list for help. HTH -- Ralph Sanford - If your government does not trust you, rsanford@telusplanet.net - should you trust your government? DH/DSS Key - 0x7A1BEA01 -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
On Sun, 2002-12-29 at 06:47, Michael Sacco wrote:
Hello all. I recently set up a wireless router with my internet connection, and bought a Microsoft mn-520 wireless pcmcia adapter for my laptop. I have SuSE 8.1 and have had no luck at all with setting it up. I was wondering if people have had any luck with this card or any other card, and if maybe I should go with some- thing else or not?? Thank you in advance.
I believe the M$ cards are like WinModems, they use the Laptop processor to do most of the work so I doubt the card will be supported in the near future. I have had good results with the NetGear MA401, although I did need to download the latest Orinoco driver to get a reliable connection. -- David Bottrill <david.bottrill@ntlworld.com>
On Sunday 29 December 2002 9:27 am, David Bottrill wrote:
On Sun, 2002-12-29 at 06:47, Michael Sacco wrote:
Hello all. I recently set up a wireless router with my internet connection, and bought a Microsoft mn-520 wireless pcmcia adapter [...] I believe the M$ cards are like WinModems, they use the Laptop processor to do most of the work so I doubt the card will be supported in the near future.
Being that is "is made by (for) microsoft", I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to find a routine in the card's firmware that checks [via an "undocumented" call] what OS it is running under and either refuse to operate, or operate in a "degraded" manner, if the OS isn't windows [or worse, winxp, and pre-programmed to expect 'the next' version of windows when it is scheduled to come out...] [now, if that could be *proved*, the boys over in the various anti-trust courts would have a field day with it :) ]
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