I messed up again and replied to BandiPat instead of the list BandiPat wrote:

Have you tried deleting your XF86config file and letting sax2 do a fresh

Yes, at your suggestion, I just did it. Didn't help

new one? Did you also update your sax2 files to go with the new 4.3?

Also at your suggestion, I updated that too

What kernel version are you using? Several things will play into

2.4.18-4GB, stock SuSE 8.0

making this work good. I was always able to get at least 2d out of the 8500 from 8.0 up, but 8.2 with 4.3 gave 3d also to my customer with the

I would be happy to get even that but it just doesn't like it at all. I only get it to work with the framebuffer method Another post on a related subject said I needed to have agpgart loaded so I tried with that but it didn't help. I also noticed that depmod -a gives an error message depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.18-4GB/kernel/drivers/char/drm/fglrx.o Any suggestions? Yes, I know I could update to 8.2 and that is tempting but I guess the curse of being an engineer (at least for me) is a desire to make it work (I hate being defeated). Since 9.0 is so close to release, I think I will wait for that. Damon Register