Hi, On Thu, Dec 10, Graham Murray wrote:

Hubert Mantel <mantel@suse.de> writes:

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One main difference: The German version contains all that crypto stuff like ssh, cipe and so on. Because we are exporting from the USA, we have to respect the US export laws which do not allow exporting crypto software. Even when it has been imported before.

So why export from the USA? Why not supply from Germany so that units are shipped TO the USA office for distribution within the USA but orders for all other countries are satisfied from Germany.

Way too expensive. People are not willing to pay the same price for shipment they are already paying for the product. Understandable ;-) The only solution would be to have two international versions: One for the USA and one for the free world. Maybe we will do so in the future. -o) Hubert Mantel Goodbye, dots... /\\ _\_v - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archiv at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>

Hi, On Thu, Dec 10, Ted Harding wrote:

On 10-Dec-98 Hubert Mantel wrote:

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The only solution would be to have two international versions: One for the USA and one for the free world. Maybe we will do so in the future.

I hope so. At present, non-German-speaking users are in effect required to be US users in practice. The unfortunate accident of being an Anglophone resident outside the USA should not lead to even more deprivation than necessary; not forgetting the many users of minority native languages (French, Italian, Latin-American ... ) for whom an English SuSE may be easier to get along with than a German one.

Best wishes, Ted. -o) Hubert Mantel Goodbye, dots... /\\ _\_v

I know that. And I really don't like this situation. But maintaining a third release adds lots of work to us. There are much more important tasks to do (eg the AXP port) than paying for some stupid US laws. And by the way: People who need cryptography have internet access. The packages are not that huge, and they are provided for download from a free server in the free world (ftp.suse.de) ;-) - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archiv at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>

I hope you will consider doing that in the future. Hmm. What exactly ARE the differences between the German end the English releases of SuSE Linux? If it is only the crypto-stuff, maybe you should rather make USA-version and International-version instead? It should just be non crypto and crypto versions. I belive their are other conuties that do not like crypto.

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I don't think it is expense we are talking about her. The US has funky import/export laws and then there is the whole crypto/encryption regulations. The US also has a tariff tax but I am not sure how applicable that is to software. I am not up on my trade laws.... Jeri On Thu, 10 Dec 1998, Kaare Rasmussen wrote:

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Way too expensive. People are not willing to pay the same price for shipment they are already paying for the product. Understandable ;-)

Why? Is it more expensive to ship from Germany than from the States? Btw. I'm distributing the international version in Denmark, and I get it from Germany.

Why can't you produce that version in Germany or even Canada and ship bulk to the distributors in all countries (including USA) from there?

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I don't think it is expense we are talking about her. The US has funky import/export laws and then there is the whole crypto/encryption regulations. The US also has a tariff tax but I am not sure how applicable that is to software. I am not up on my trade laws....

It is legal to import encryption into the states - illegal to export w/o a license. There are other issues as well, such as patents etc. There was something in the news a week or so ago - 35 other countries have agreed to make it illegal to export cryptographic software. This might include yours! Tom - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archiv at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>

So why export from the USA? Why not supply from Germany so that units are shipped TO the USA office for distribution within the USA but orders for all other countries are satisfied from Germany. Even canada would do.

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