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Landy Roman

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Roman Shakin

25 Aug 25 Aug

16:56

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Please be more specific wiht your post, how is it dying... ? Do you hear extra noises or something... --Roman On Sat, Aug 25, 2001, Landy Roman wrote:

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Landy Roman

17:07

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yes i hear noice and i see this in my log ug 18 12:33:36 pepino -- MARK -- Aug 18 12:53:33 pepino kernel: hda: irq timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy } Aug 18 12:53:41 pepino kernel: ide0: reset: success <<<<< sometimes it fails and crashes On Sat, 25 Aug 2001 09:56:02 -0700 Roman Shakin wrote:

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Please be more specific wiht your post, how is it dying... ? Do you hear extra noises or something...

--Roman

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Roman Shakin

17:41

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fsck ( = FileSystem ChecK) is what you want. Assuming your filesystem is ext2, the actual app will be either e2fsck or fsck.ext2 (varies by distribution and version). Normally, you want to fsck only unmounted filesystems, and I don`t offhand recall how to deal with the root filesystem in this regard (other than the obvious option of booting with a rescue disk and running e2fsck from it on the now-unmounted root filesystem). And yes, it`s probably a bad block on the hard drive. Or it could be something else such as not nuff power suplied to the hd, but I am sure thats not the case... --Roman On Sat, Aug 25, 2001, Landy Roman wrote:

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yes i hear noice and i see this in my log

ug 18 12:33:36 pepino -- MARK -- Aug 18 12:53:33 pepino kernel: hda: irq timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy } Aug 18 12:53:41 pepino kernel: ide0: reset: success <<<<< sometimes it fails and crashes

On Sat, 25 Aug 2001 09:56:02 -0700 Roman Shakin wrote:

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Please be more specific wiht your post, how is it dying... ? Do you hear extra noises or something...

--Roman

On Sat, Aug 25, 2001, Landy Roman wrote:

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any utility to check a hard drive i think my hd is dying

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Charles A Edwards

18:11

New subject: [SLE] hard drive

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-----Original Message----- From: Roman Shakin [mailto:rshakin@unixfreak.org] Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2001 1:41 PM To: Landy Roman Cc: suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: Re: [SLE] hard drive

fsck ( = FileSystem ChecK) is what you want. Assuming your filesystem is ext2, the actual app will be either e2fsck or fsck.ext2 (varies by distribution and version). Normally, you want to fsck only unmounted filesystems, and I don`t offhand recall how to deal with the root filesystem in this regard (other than the obvious option of booting with a rescue disk and running e2fsck from it on the now-unmounted root filesystem).

And yes, it`s probably a bad block on the hard drive.

Or it could be something else such as not nuff power suplied to the hd, but I am sure thats not the case...

--Roman

On Sat, Aug 25, 2001, Landy Roman wrote:

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yes i hear noice and i see this in my log

ug 18 12:33:36 pepino -- MARK -- Aug 18 12:53:33 pepino kernel: hda: irq timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy } Aug 18 12:53:41 pepino kernel: ide0: reset: success <<<<< sometimes it fails and crashes

On Sat, 25 Aug 2001 09:56:02 -0700 Roman Shakin wrote:

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Please be more specific wiht your post, how is it dying... ? Do you hear extra noises or something...

--Roman

On Sat, Aug 25, 2001, Landy Roman wrote:

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any utility to check a hard drive i think my hd is dying

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You run fsck on / in the same manner as it done if auto run during boot. The partition must be mounted or you will not be able to run fsck, But It Must be mounted as Read Only. I am not sure though that fsck is actually the utility that would serve best for the purpose of checking the fitness of your drive, especially if your drive is not linux only. There are several Windows utilities which supposedly will do this. But your best bet is your hd vendors web site. I know that IBM offers for download Disk Manager such includes a drive fittness test. It can only be used on IBM drives so check your vendors site, they may have a comparable selection. Charles (-: Forever never goes beyond tomorrow.

Landy Roman

19:21

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western digital has one for free but only runs on windows as well darnit On Sat, 25 Aug 2001 14:11:30 -0400 "Charles A Edwards" wrote:

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-----Original Message----- From: Roman Shakin [mailto:rshakin@unixfreak.org] Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2001 1:41 PM To: Landy Roman Cc: suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: Re: [SLE] hard drive

fsck ( = FileSystem ChecK) is what you want. Assuming your filesystem is ext2, the actual app will be either e2fsck or fsck.ext2 (varies by distribution and version). Normally, you want to fsck only unmounted filesystems, and I don`t offhand recall how to deal with the root filesystem in this regard (other than the obvious option of booting with a rescue disk and running e2fsck from it on the now-unmounted root filesystem).

And yes, it`s probably a bad block on the hard drive.

Or it could be something else such as not nuff power suplied to the hd, but I am sure thats not the case...

--Roman

On Sat, Aug 25, 2001, Landy Roman wrote:

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yes i hear noice and i see this in my log

ug 18 12:33:36 pepino -- MARK -- Aug 18 12:53:33 pepino kernel: hda: irq timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy } Aug 18 12:53:41 pepino kernel: ide0: reset: success <<<<< sometimes it fails and crashes

On Sat, 25 Aug 2001 09:56:02 -0700 Roman Shakin wrote:

...
Please be more specific wiht your post, how is it dying... ? Do you hear extra noises or something...

--Roman

On Sat, Aug 25, 2001, Landy Roman wrote:

...
any utility to check a hard drive i think my hd is dying

--

You run fsck on / in the same manner as it done if auto run during boot. The partition must be mounted or you will not be able to run fsck, But It Must be mounted as Read Only.

I am not sure though that fsck is actually the utility that would serve best for the purpose of checking the fitness of your drive, especially if your drive is not linux only.

There are several Windows utilities which supposedly will do this. But your best bet is your hd vendors web site. I know that IBM offers for download Disk Manager such includes a drive fittness test. It can only be used on IBM drives so check your vendors site, they may have a comparable selection.

Charles (-:

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Charles A Edwards

19:52

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That is disappointing of WD. IBM's runs on a Dr-DOS platform. The installed OS, or lack thereof is irrelevant. Charles (-: Forever never goes beyond tomorrow.

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-----Original Message----- From: Landy Roman [mailto:landie@concentric.net] Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2001 3:22 PM To: eslrahc@bellsouth.net Cc: suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: Re: [SLE] hard drive

western digital has one for free but only runs on windows as well darnit

On Sat, 25 Aug 2001 14:11:30 -0400 "Charles A Edwards" wrote:

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-----Original Message----- From: Roman Shakin [mailto:rshakin@unixfreak.org] Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2001 1:41 PM To: Landy Roman Cc: suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: Re: [SLE] hard drive

fsck ( = FileSystem ChecK) is what you want. Assuming your filesystem is ext2, the actual app will be either e2fsck or fsck.ext2 (varies by distribution and version). Normally, you want to fsck

only unmounted

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filesystems, and I don`t offhand recall how to deal with the root filesystem in this regard (other than the obvious option of booting with a rescue disk and running e2fsck from it on the now-unmounted root filesystem).

And yes, it`s probably a bad block on the hard drive.

Or it could be something else such as not nuff power suplied to the hd, but I am sure thats not the case...

--Roman

On Sat, Aug 25, 2001, Landy Roman wrote:

...
yes i hear noice and i see this in my log

ug 18 12:33:36 pepino -- MARK -- Aug 18 12:53:33 pepino kernel: hda: irq timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy } Aug 18 12:53:41 pepino kernel: ide0: reset: success <<<<< sometimes it fails and crashes

On Sat, 25 Aug 2001 09:56:02 -0700 Roman Shakin wrote:

...
Please be more specific wiht your post, how is it dying... ? Do you hear extra noises or something...

--Roman

...
On Sat, Aug 25, 2001, Landy Roman wrote:

...
any utility to check a hard drive i think my hd is dying

--

You run fsck on / in the same manner as it done if auto run during boot. The partition must be mounted or you will not be able to run fsck, But It Must be mounted as Read Only.

I am not sure though that fsck is actually the utility that would serve best for the purpose of checking the fitness of your drive, especially if your drive is not linux only.

There are several Windows utilities which supposedly will do this. But your best bet is your hd vendors web site. I know that IBM offers for download Disk Manager such includes a drive fittness test. It can only be used on IBM drives so check your vendors site, they may have a comparable selection.

Charles (-:

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Martin Webster

20:10

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On Saturday 25 August 2001 6:11 pm, Charles A Edwards wrote:

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-----Original Message----- From: Roman Shakin [mailto:rshakin@unixfreak.org] Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2001 1:41 PM To: Landy Roman Cc: suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: Re: [SLE] hard drive

fsck ( = FileSystem ChecK) is what you want. Assuming your filesystem is ext2, the actual app will be either e2fsck or fsck.ext2 (varies by distribution and version). Normally, you want to fsck only unmounted filesystems, and I don`t offhand recall how to deal with the root filesystem in this regard (other than the obvious option of booting with a rescue disk and running e2fsck from it on the now-unmounted root filesystem).

And yes, it`s probably a bad block on the hard drive.

Or it could be something else such as not nuff power suplied to the hd, but I am sure thats not the case...

--Roman

On Sat, Aug 25, 2001, Landy Roman wrote:

...
yes i hear noice and i see this in my log

ug 18 12:33:36 pepino -- MARK -- Aug 18 12:53:33 pepino kernel: hda: irq timeout:

status=0xd0 { Busy }

...
Aug 18 12:53:41 pepino kernel: ide0: reset: success

<<<<< sometimes it fails and crashes

...
On Sat, 25 Aug 2001 09:56:02 -0700

Roman Shakin wrote:

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Please be more specific wiht your post, how is it

dying... ? Do you hear

...
...
extra noises or something...

--Roman

On Sat, Aug 25, 2001, Landy Roman wrote:

...
any utility to check a hard drive i think my hd is dying

--

You run fsck on / in the same manner as it done if auto run during boot. The partition must be mounted or you will not be able to run fsck, But It Must be mounted as Read Only.

I am not sure though that fsck is actually the utility that would serve best for the purpose of checking the fitness of your drive, especially if your drive is not linux only.

There are several Windows utilities which supposedly will do this. But your best bet is your hd vendors web site. I know that IBM offers for download Disk Manager such includes a drive fittness test. It can only be used on IBM drives so check your vendors site, they may have a comparable selection.

Charles (-:

Forever never goes beyond tomorrow.

Check out TuffTest Lite; it may meet your needs (it's free). M

Landy Roman

19:16

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it does not run under linux On Sat, 25 Aug 2001 20:10:47 +0000 Martin Webster wrote:

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On Saturday 25 August 2001 6:11 pm, Charles A Edwards wrote:

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-----Original Message----- From: Roman Shakin [mailto:rshakin@unixfreak.org] Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2001 1:41 PM To: Landy Roman Cc: suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: Re: [SLE] hard drive

fsck ( = FileSystem ChecK) is what you want. Assuming your filesystem is ext2, the actual app will be either e2fsck or fsck.ext2 (varies by distribution and version). Normally, you want to fsck only unmounted filesystems, and I don`t offhand recall how to deal with the root filesystem in this regard (other than the obvious option of booting with a rescue disk and running e2fsck from it on the now-unmounted root filesystem).

And yes, it`s probably a bad block on the hard drive.

Or it could be something else such as not nuff power suplied to the hd, but I am sure thats not the case...

--Roman

On Sat, Aug 25, 2001, Landy Roman wrote:

...
yes i hear noice and i see this in my log

ug 18 12:33:36 pepino -- MARK -- Aug 18 12:53:33 pepino kernel: hda: irq timeout:

status=0xd0 { Busy }

...
Aug 18 12:53:41 pepino kernel: ide0: reset: success

<<<<< sometimes it fails and crashes

...
On Sat, 25 Aug 2001 09:56:02 -0700

Roman Shakin wrote:

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Please be more specific wiht your post, how is it

dying... ? Do you hear

...
...
extra noises or something...

--Roman

On Sat, Aug 25, 2001, Landy Roman wrote:

...
any utility to check a hard drive i think my hd is dying

--

You run fsck on / in the same manner as it done if auto run during boot. The partition must be mounted or you will not be able to run fsck, But It Must be mounted as Read Only.

I am not sure though that fsck is actually the utility that would serve best for the purpose of checking the fitness of your drive, especially if your drive is not linux only.

There are several Windows utilities which supposedly will do this. But your best bet is your hd vendors web site. I know that IBM offers for download Disk Manager such includes a drive fittness test. It can only be used on IBM drives so check your vendors site, they may have a comparable selection.

Charles (-:

Forever never goes beyond tomorrow.

Check out TuffTest Lite; it may meet your needs (it's free).

M

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Martin Webster

20:36

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On Saturday 25 August 2001 7:16 pm, Landy Roman wrote:

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it does not run under linux

It's a standalone OS (it doesn't run under DOS/Windows either). It will check the hardware regardless of the OS or filesystem installed. You may need a Windows machine to create the disk image (it runs from a single floppy disk). M

Lourens Steenkamp

18:15

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On Sat, 25 Aug 2001 12:53:23 -0400 Hello Landy from Lourens: " any utility to check a hard drive i think my hd is dying " The best would be to look at the Manufacturer's site - I have found useful diags specific to my drives by doing this. HTH *** Powered by SuSE Linux 7.2 Professional Registered Linux User Lourens Steenkamp Republic of South Africa _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

Roman Shakin

20:05

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Ohh yeah, what harddrive is it, like who made it and all. I would like to know that cause I can give you some tips to get it replaced for free and so on. But i need to know who made it and snumber --Roman On Sat, Aug 25, 2001, Lourens Steenkamp wrote:

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On Sat, 25 Aug 2001 12:53:23 -0400 Hello Landy from Lourens:

" any utility to check a hard drive i think my hd is dying " The best would be to look at the Manufacturer's site - I have found useful diags specific to my drives by doing this.

HTH

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Landy Roman

20:31

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you know i thaught it was wester digital but now i think is a seagate cat /proc/ide/hda/model=ST320424A it came with my compaq On Sat, 25 Aug 2001 13:05:35 -0700 Roman Shakin wrote:

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Ohh yeah, what harddrive is it, like who made it and all. I would like to know that cause I can give you some tips to get it replaced for free and so on. But i need to know who made it and snumber

--Roman

On Sat, Aug 25, 2001, Lourens Steenkamp wrote:

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On Sat, 25 Aug 2001 12:53:23 -0400 Hello Landy from Lourens:

" any utility to check a hard drive i think my hd is dying " The best would be to look at the Manufacturer's site - I have found useful diags specific to my drives by doing this.

HTH

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Jean Messerlin

20:33

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On Sat, 25 Aug 2001, Landy Roman wrote:

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any utility to check a hard drive i think my hd is dying

You might take a look at the 'ide-smart' program (idesmart package), that is if your BIOS and harddrive are SMART capable: 'ide-smart /dev/hda' gives you the status of different tests of hda (passed or failed). The man pages will give you some more options... Good luck

Landy Roman

22:13

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thANKS I DID not know about ide-smart; i just ran it ide-smart -d /dev/hda and it "passed all test" i still think somethign is wrong based on some noise and log msg thanks On Sat, 25 Aug 2001 22:33:36 +0200 Jean Messerlin wrote:

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On Sat, 25 Aug 2001, Landy Roman wrote:

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any utility to check a hard drive i think my hd is dying

You might take a look at the 'ide-smart' program (idesmart package), that is if your BIOS and harddrive are SMART capable: 'ide-smart /dev/hda' gives you the status of different tests of hda (passed or failed). The man pages will give you some more options... Good luck

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Ed Harrison

22:13

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