[opensuse] Where can I find my stored Wifi-Passwords?
Hi everybody I use Opensuse 42.3, KDE 5.8.7 and connect to WiFis with Network-Manager. I want to connect to a WiFi from my mobile phone, but can't find the password. In network-Manager the password field has no "show password" checkbox. In KDE-Wallet I don't find any WiFi-entries. In the files in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/ there are no passwords... Where do they hide? Thanks! Daniel -- Daniel Bauer photographer Basel Málaga https://www.patreon.com/danielbauer https://www.daniel-bauer.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Dne středa 17. dubna 2019 17:53:00 CEST, Daniel Bauer napsal(a):
I use Opensuse 42.3, KDE 5.8.7 and connect to WiFis with Network-Manager. I want to connect to a WiFi from my mobile phone, but can't find the password. In network-Manager the password field has no "show password" checkbox.
If You click at network icon, then to that settings icon in top-right corner, You should see list of networks, You click to selected network, the to security tab and You should see the eye icon to reveal the password.
In KDE-Wallet I don't find any WiFi-entries. In the files in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/ there are no passwords... Where do they hide?
They should be stored by KWalletManager. Start it, open, go to section Network Manager, find it. -- Vojtěch Zeisek Komunita openSUSE GNU/Linuxu Community of the openSUSE GNU/Linux https://www.opensuse.org/ https://trapa.cz/
On 17.04.19 18:08, Vojtěch Zeisek wrote:
Dne středa 17. dubna 2019 17:53:00 CEST, Daniel Bauer napsal(a):
I use Opensuse 42.3, KDE 5.8.7 and connect to WiFis with Network-Manager. I want to connect to a WiFi from my mobile phone, but can't find the password. In network-Manager the password field has no "show password" checkbox.
If You click at network icon, then to that settings icon in top-right corner, You should see list of networks, You click to selected network, the to security tab and You should see the eye icon to reveal the password.
This eye icon is what I am missing. There is none.
In KDE-Wallet I don't find any WiFi-entries. In the files in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/ there are no passwords... Where do they hide?
They should be stored by KWalletManager. Start it, open, go to section Network Manager, find it.
There are only the sections Form-Data (0), Passwords (7), darktabe credentials (0).
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Dne středa 17. dubna 2019 18:21:38 CEST, Daniel Bauer napsal(a):
On 17.04.19 18:08, Vojtěch Zeisek wrote:
Dne středa 17. dubna 2019 17:53:00 CEST, Daniel Bauer napsal(a):
I use Opensuse 42.3, KDE 5.8.7 and connect to WiFis with Network -Manager. I want to connect to a WiFi from my mobile phone, but can't find the password. In network-Manager the password field has no "show password" checkbox.
If You click at network icon, then to that settings icon in top-right corner, You should see list of networks, You click to selected network, the to security tab and You should see the eye icon to reveal the password. This eye icon is what I am missing. There is none.
In KDE-Wallet I don't find any WiFi-entries. In the files in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/ there are no passwords... Where do they hide?
They should be stored by KWalletManager. Start it, open, go to section Network Manager, find it.
There are only the sections Form-Data (0), Passwords (7), darktabe credentials (0).
Obviously, You don't have passwords stored by KWalletManager... Then I don't know... :-( -- Vojtěch Zeisek Komunita openSUSE GNU/Linuxu Community of the openSUSE GNU/Linux https://www.opensuse.org/ https://trapa.cz/
On 04/17/2019 11:21 AM, Daniel Bauer wrote:
On 17.04.19 18:08, Vojtěch Zeisek wrote:
Dne středa 17. dubna 2019 17:53:00 CEST, Daniel Bauer napsal(a):
I use Opensuse 42.3, KDE 5.8.7 and connect to WiFis with Network-Manager. I want to connect to a WiFi from my mobile phone, but can't find the password. In network-Manager the password field has no "show password" checkbox.
If You click at network icon, then to that settings icon in top-right corner, You should see list of networks, You click to selected network, the to security tab and You should see the eye icon to reveal the password.
This eye icon is what I am missing. There is none.
I can't solve your immediate problem, but I can solve all future password problems by passing along Keepassx as the tool to use to store passwords. (it also provides for use of a keyfile as a second component of authentication, so with your key on a flash-drive, even if you are rooted, your credentials cannot be read) There build for Linux, windows, apple (minikeepass)... Almost 20 years and not a single lost pw. By comparison, I've always found kwallet more of a pain than a help. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 17/04/2019 22.31, David C. Rankin wrote:
On 04/17/2019 11:21 AM, Daniel Bauer wrote:
On 17.04.19 18:08, Vojtěch Zeisek wrote:
Dne středa 17. dubna 2019 17:53:00 CEST, Daniel Bauer napsal(a):
I use Opensuse 42.3, KDE 5.8.7 and connect to WiFis with Network-Manager. I want to connect to a WiFi from my mobile phone, but can't find the password. In network-Manager the password field has no "show password" checkbox.
If You click at network icon, then to that settings icon in top-right corner, You should see list of networks, You click to selected network, the to security tab and You should see the eye icon to reveal the password.
This eye icon is what I am missing. There is none.
I can't solve your immediate problem, but I can solve all future password problems by passing along Keepassx as the tool to use to store passwords. (it also provides for use of a keyfile as a second component of authentication, so with your key on a flash-drive, even if you are rooted, your credentials cannot be read) There build for Linux, windows, apple (minikeepass)... Almost 20 years and not a single lost pw.
I agree. I use the KeePassXC version. However, some of the non-crucial passwords I keep on the desktop vault, like the wifi password, or the email passwords, simply because the machine has to use them very often. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE, Leap 15.1 x86_64 (ssd-test)) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 04/17/2019 04:06 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
I agree. I use the KeePassXC version.
However, some of the non-crucial passwords I keep on the desktop vault, like the wifi password, or the email passwords, simply because the machine has to use them very often.
Yep, I don't even bother storing wifi anywhere special. I just type it into yast on wireless interface setup and let yast worry about how to store it. I guess I should chase that down to see how and where, but I've never seen that as too critical for the laptop. But keepassx has been the next best thing since sliced bread for credential storage. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 18/04/2019 06.13, David C. Rankin wrote:
On 04/17/2019 04:06 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
I agree. I use the KeePassXC version.
However, some of the non-crucial passwords I keep on the desktop vault, like the wifi password, or the email passwords, simply because the machine has to use them very often.
Yep,
I don't even bother storing wifi anywhere special. I just type it into yast on wireless interface setup and let yast worry about how to store it. I guess I should chase that down to see how and where, but I've never seen that as too critical for the laptop. But keepassx has been the next best thing since sliced bread for credential storage.
But he did not use YaST, but Network Manager in KDE of 42.3 I use NM but in XFCE in 15.0, so the tools are different. I'll have a look this afternoon on my laptop. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE, Leap 15.1 x86_64 (ssd-test)) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 18.04.19 13:49, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 18/04/2019 06.13, David C. Rankin wrote:
On 04/17/2019 04:06 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
I agree. I use the KeePassXC version.
However, some of the non-crucial passwords I keep on the desktop vault, like the wifi password, or the email passwords, simply because the machine has to use them very often.
Yep,
I don't even bother storing wifi anywhere special. I just type it into yast on wireless interface setup and let yast worry about how to store it. I guess I should chase that down to see how and where, but I've never seen that as too critical for the laptop. But keepassx has been the next best thing since sliced bread for credential storage.
But he did not use YaST, but Network Manager in KDE of 42.3 I use NM but in XFCE in 15.0, so the tools are different.
I'll have a look this afternoon on my laptop.
Yes. Wherever I am with my laptop, when I want to access to a WiFi I just click on the networkmanager icon in the task bar, select the wifi and enter the password. It is remembered "for ever". But where??? -- -- Daniel Bauer photographer Basel Málaga https://www.patreon.com/danielbauer https://www.daniel-bauer.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 18/04/2019 16.56, Daniel Bauer wrote:
On 18.04.19 13:49, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 18/04/2019 06.13, David C. Rankin wrote:
But he did not use YaST, but Network Manager in KDE of 42.3 I use NM but in XFCE in 15.0, so the tools are different.
I'll have a look this afternoon on my laptop.
Yes. Wherever I am with my laptop, when I want to access to a WiFi I just click on the networkmanager icon in the task bar, select the wifi and enter the password. It is remembered "for ever". But where???
Ok, looking now on my laptop. There are files like "/etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/ConnectionName", that have a section: [wifi-security] auth-alg=open key-mgmt=wpa-psk psk=... which is the key, in clear text. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE, Leap 15.1 x86_64 (ssd-test)) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 19/04/2019 02.23, Dave Howorth wrote:
On Thu, 18 Apr 2019 21:30:07 +0200 "Carlos E. R." <> wrote:
which is the key, in clear text.
Ouch! Doubleplusungood.
I don't know what that word means :-D But I found it. <https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=doubleplusungood> Consider that if it is not done that way, the WiFi can not connect before the desktop is open and the user types the password, possibly another one for the vault. Another vault would be required from "root", to be typed during boot. Problematic if nobody logs in locally. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE, Leap 15.1 x86_64 (ssd-test)) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Fri, 19 Apr 2019 23:02:43 +0200 "Carlos E. R." <robin.listas@telefonica.net> wrote:
On 19/04/2019 02.23, Dave Howorth wrote:
On Thu, 18 Apr 2019 21:30:07 +0200 "Carlos E. R." <> wrote:
which is the key, in clear text.
Ouch! Doubleplusungood.
I don't know what that word means :-D But I found it.
<https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=doubleplusungood>
Consider that if it is not done that way, the WiFi can not connect before the desktop is open and the user types the password, possibly another one for the vault.
I confess I never use NM and rarely use wi-fi at all, so I may be spouting nonsense :) Storing passwords in cleartext is *always* a bad idea. Surely connecting to the wi-fi is something that should require the user's credentials; I may not want somebody logging in as guest to be able to access my network resources. I don't see why the act of logging in (with a password or other credentials) could not also enable wi-fi access as well as start the desktop?
Another vault would be required from "root", to be typed during boot. Problematic if nobody logs in locally.
You seem to have a different use case to what I am thinking of. An IOT device? I expect there are ways to avoid plaintext password storage in such cases, but I don't know what they are. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 19/04/2019 23.26, Dave Howorth wrote:
On Fri, 19 Apr 2019 23:02:43 +0200 "Carlos E. R." <robin.listas@telefonica.net> wrote:
On 19/04/2019 02.23, Dave Howorth wrote:
On Thu, 18 Apr 2019 21:30:07 +0200 "Carlos E. R." <> wrote:
which is the key, in clear text.
Ouch! Doubleplusungood.
I don't know what that word means :-D But I found it.
<https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=doubleplusungood>
Consider that if it is not done that way, the WiFi can not connect before the desktop is open and the user types the password, possibly another one for the vault.
I confess I never use NM and rarely use wi-fi at all, so I may be spouting nonsense :)
Storing passwords in cleartext is *always* a bad idea. Surely connecting to the wi-fi is something that should require the user's credentials; I may not want somebody logging in as guest to be able to access my network resources. I don't see why the act of logging in (with a password or other credentials) could not also enable wi-fi access as well as start the desktop?
Because that's the meaning of system connection wifi. It works before anybody logs in, automatically, after booting, same as the cable. The file is only readable by root, anyway.
Another vault would be required from "root", to be typed during boot. Problematic if nobody logs in locally.
You seem to have a different use case to what I am thinking of. An IOT device? I expect there are ways to avoid plaintext password storage in such cases, but I don't know what they are.
Simply any machine that has daemons that need working before anybody logins. A server that has wifi without cable. Whatever. The thing is, as soon as the wifi is defined "system", the password is in clear. It can be encrypted, but the key must be accessible without password, so anybody with physical access can read it. He uses the key file to open the encrypted file. And anybody with physical access can connect a cable, anyway. If you define the connection as "user connection", then it can go to the vault, and it will not work till the user logins. Your router also has the password stored in the clear, if you get access to its filesystem. If your phone connects to the WiFi before you open the display with a pattern or pin, it stores the wifi password in clear. But it will not tell you what it is. The SIM pin code is not needed, either. That gives me an idea for Daniel: convert the connection to a system connection. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE, Leap 15.1 x86_64 (ssd-test)) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 18.04.19 21:30, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 18/04/2019 16.56, Daniel Bauer wrote:
Yes. Wherever I am with my laptop, when I want to access to a WiFi I just click on the networkmanager icon in the task bar, select the wifi and enter the password. It is remembered "for ever". But where???
Ok, looking now on my laptop.
There are files like "/etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/ConnectionName", that have a section:
[wifi-security] auth-alg=open key-mgmt=wpa-psk psk=...
which is the key, in clear text.
This is what googling said, but my files don't show passwords (I looked in many...) the file named as my actual wifi-connection contains the following (I replaced some data with "(removed)") [connection] id=(removed) uuid=(removed) type=wifi permissions=user:daniel:; secondaries= [wifi] mac-address=(removed) mac-address-blacklist= mode=infrastructure seen-bssids= ssid=(removed) [wifi-security] group= key-mgmt=wpa-psk pairwise= proto= psk-flags=1 [ipv4] dns=9.9.9.9; dns-search= ignore-auto-dns=true method=auto [ipv6] dns-search= method=auto -- Daniel Bauer photographer Basel Málaga https://www.patreon.com/danielbauer https://www.daniel-bauer.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 19/04/2019 11.03, Daniel Bauer wrote:
On 18.04.19 21:30, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 18/04/2019 16.56, Daniel Bauer wrote:
Yes. Wherever I am with my laptop, when I want to access to a WiFi I just click on the networkmanager icon in the task bar, select the wifi and enter the password. It is remembered "for ever". But where???
Ok, looking now on my laptop.
There are files like "/etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/ConnectionName", that have a section:
[wifi-security] auth-alg=open key-mgmt=wpa-psk psk=...
which is the key, in clear text.
This is what googling said, but my files don't show passwords (I looked in many...)
the file named as my actual wifi-connection contains the following (I replaced some data with "(removed)")
...
[wifi-security] group= key-mgmt=wpa-psk pairwise= proto= psk-flags=1
I think this (missing "psk=..." entry) means the password is stored elsewhere, the desktop "vault". Do you have more wifi connections? Just in case this one is blank. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE, Leap 15.1 x86_64 (ssd-test)) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 19.04.19 11:47, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 19/04/2019 11.03, Daniel Bauer wrote:
On 18.04.19 21:30, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 18/04/2019 16.56, Daniel Bauer wrote:
Yes. Wherever I am with my laptop, when I want to access to a WiFi I just click on the networkmanager icon in the task bar, select the wifi and enter the password. It is remembered "for ever". But where???
Ok, looking now on my laptop.
There are files like "/etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/ConnectionName", that have a section:
[wifi-security] auth-alg=open key-mgmt=wpa-psk psk=...
which is the key, in clear text.
This is what googling said, but my files don't show passwords (I looked in many...)
the file named as my actual wifi-connection contains the following (I replaced some data with "(removed)")
...
[wifi-security] group= key-mgmt=wpa-psk pairwise= proto= psk-flags=1
I think this (missing "psk=..." entry) means the password is stored elsewhere, the desktop "vault". Do you have more wifi connections? Just in case this one is blank.
I have 55 "connection-files" and all look the same, except those for passwordless public connections... Where can I find this "desktop vault"? If I click on KWalletManager in the desktop-menu there is no connection-data... -- Daniel Bauer photographer Basel Málaga https://www.patreon.com/danielbauer https://www.daniel-bauer.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 19/04/2019 12.22, Daniel Bauer wrote:
On 19.04.19 11:47, Carlos E. R. wrote:
I think this (missing "psk=..." entry) means the password is stored elsewhere, the desktop "vault". Do you have more wifi connections? Just in case this one is blank.
I have 55 "connection-files" and all look the same, except those for passwordless public connections...
Where can I find this "desktop vault"? If I click on KWalletManager in the desktop-menu there is no connection-data...
Apparently it should be there. But I don't use KDE. If you try to change the connection configuration, does the password show? -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE, Leap 15.1 x86_64 (ssd-test)) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 19.04.19 14:36, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 19/04/2019 12.22, Daniel Bauer wrote:
On 19.04.19 11:47, Carlos E. R. wrote:
I think this (missing "psk=..." entry) means the password is stored elsewhere, the desktop "vault". Do you have more wifi connections? Just in case this one is blank.
I have 55 "connection-files" and all look the same, except those for passwordless public connections...
Where can I find this "desktop vault"? If I click on KWalletManager in the desktop-menu there is no connection-data...
Apparently it should be there. But I don't use KDE.
If you try to change the connection configuration, does the password show?
No, unfortunately not. Googling I've seen screenshots where the password dialog has a "show password" checkbox below of the entry field, but mine doesn't have it :-( The only info-website about Networkmanager I found talks about Gnome Keyring. So I installed seahorse, but this shows me only an empty window, no keyring (not as user and not as root) I guess, somewhere must be the configuration-files of Networkmanager and maybe I could do something there? But I haven't found a config file... -- Daniel Bauer photographer Basel Málaga https://www.patreon.com/danielbauer https://www.daniel-bauer.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Fri, 19 Apr 2019 15:36:32 +0200 Daniel Bauer <linux@daniel-bauer.com> wrote:
I guess, somewhere must be the configuration-files of Networkmanager and maybe I could do something there? But I haven't found a config file...
# grep -r password ~/* Maybe? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 19/04/2019 15.36, Daniel Bauer wrote:
On 19.04.19 14:36, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 19/04/2019 12.22, Daniel Bauer wrote:
On 19.04.19 11:47, Carlos E. R. wrote:
I think this (missing "psk=..." entry) means the password is stored elsewhere, the desktop "vault". Do you have more wifi connections? Just in case this one is blank.
I have 55 "connection-files" and all look the same, except those for passwordless public connections...
Where can I find this "desktop vault"? If I click on KWalletManager in the desktop-menu there is no connection-data...
Apparently it should be there. But I don't use KDE.
If you try to change the connection configuration, does the password show?
No, unfortunately not. Googling I've seen screenshots where the password dialog has a "show password" checkbox below of the entry field, but mine doesn't have it :-(
Convert the connection to a system connection, available to all users. The system must them make the wifi password accessible on boot, before login, so it should then be stored in the clear. Then look in the NM files again. It should only ask for your root password. If it asks as well for the wifi password, abort. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE, Leap 15.1 x86_64 (ssd-test)) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Thank you, Carlos! On 20.04.19 01:01, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Convert the connection to a system connection, available to all users.
In NetworkManager I clicked on edit connection and then on the diskette symbol in the password field (in the tab wifi-security). Selected "save password and make available to all users (not encrypted)". Clicked "ok". Now the password is shown in cleartext in the appropriate file in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/ : [wifi-security] auth-alg=open key-mgmt=wpa-psk psk=ThePassword
The system must them make the wifi password accessible on boot, before login, so it should then be stored in the clear. Then look in the NM files again.
It should only ask for your root password. If it asks as well for the wifi password, abort.
When doing the change above (as user) I was not asked for any password. -- Daniel Bauer photographer Basel Málaga https://www.patreon.com/danielbauer https://www.daniel-bauer.com -- Daniel Bauer photographer Basel Málaga https://www.patreon.com/danielbauer https://www.daniel-bauer.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 20/04/2019 11.11, Daniel Bauer wrote:
Thank you, Carlos!
On 20.04.19 01:01, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Convert the connection to a system connection, available to all users.
In NetworkManager I clicked on edit connection and then on the diskette symbol in the password field (in the tab wifi-security). Selected "save password and make available to all users (not encrypted)". Clicked "ok".
Now the password is shown in cleartext in the appropriate file in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/ :
[wifi-security] auth-alg=open key-mgmt=wpa-psk psk=ThePassword
:-DD
The system must them make the wifi password accessible on boot, before login, so it should then be stored in the clear. Then look in the NM files again.
It should only ask for your root password. If it asks as well for the wifi password, abort.
When doing the change above (as user) I was not asked for any password.
Ah, maybe it asks when trying to modify again the connection. Of course, now that you have the password, you can go back to "user connection" if you prefer. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE, Leap 15.1 x86_64 (ssd-test)) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 19/04/2019 12.22, Daniel Bauer wrote:
Where can I find this "desktop vault"? If I click on KWalletManager in the desktop-menu there is no connection-data...
I can suggest a brute force approach. Are you familiar with 'mc' (Midnight Commander)? It has a menu entry to search for text in entire directory trees. Running as root, navigate to /home, then F9 (pull down menu), Command, Find File. Runs in konsole, but Mouse works. File name '*', find recursively, and on the right panel search for string, not case sensitive, and as string enter the SSID of the connection you are looking for. If unlucky, try on directory /etc If it finds something - at least it should hit on the newtwork manager files - then F3 will view on the found file. You can do that even before it finishes the search. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE, Leap 15.1 x86_64 (ssd-test)) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 19.04.19 15:31, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 19/04/2019 12.22, Daniel Bauer wrote:
Where can I find this "desktop vault"? If I click on KWalletManager in the desktop-menu there is no connection-data...
I can suggest a brute force approach. Are you familiar with 'mc' (Midnight Commander)? It has a menu entry to search for text in entire directory trees.
Running as root, navigate to /home, then F9 (pull down menu), Command, Find File. Runs in konsole, but Mouse works.
File name '*', find recursively, and on the right panel search for string, not case sensitive, and as string enter the SSID of the connection you are looking for.
If unlucky, try on directory /etc
If it finds something - at least it should hit on the newtwork manager files - then F3 will view on the found file. You can do that even before it finishes the search.
Didn't find anything (except xsession-error files)... -- Daniel Bauer photographer Basel Málaga https://www.patreon.com/danielbauer https://www.daniel-bauer.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 20/04/2019 10.44, Daniel Bauer wrote:
On 19.04.19 15:31, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 19/04/2019 12.22, Daniel Bauer wrote:
Where can I find this "desktop vault"? If I click on KWalletManager in the desktop-menu there is no connection-data...
I can suggest a brute force approach. Are you familiar with 'mc' (Midnight Commander)? It has a menu entry to search for text in entire directory trees.
Running as root, navigate to /home, then F9 (pull down menu), Command, Find File. Runs in konsole, but Mouse works.
File name '*', find recursively, and on the right panel search for string, not case sensitive, and as string enter the SSID of the connection you are looking for.
If unlucky, try on directory /etc
If it finds something - at least it should hit on the newtwork manager files - then F3 will view on the found file. You can do that even before it finishes the search.
Didn't find anything (except xsession-error files)...
Then it is encrypted somehow. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE, Leap 15.1 x86_64 (ssd-test)) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
19.04.19 11:03 - Daniel Bauer:
On 18.04.19 21:30, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 18/04/2019 16.56, Daniel Bauer wrote:
Yes. Wherever I am with my laptop, when I want to access to a WiFi I just click on the networkmanager icon in the task bar, select the wifi and enter the password. It is remembered "for ever". But where???
Ok, looking now on my laptop.
There are files like "/etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/ConnectionName", that have a section:
[wifi-security] auth-alg=open key-mgmt=wpa-psk psk=...
which is the key, in clear text.
This is what googling said, but my files don't show passwords (I looked in many...)
the file named as my actual wifi-connection contains the following (I replaced some data with "(removed)")
[connection] id=(removed) uuid=(removed) type=wifi permissions=user:daniel:; secondaries=
[wifi] mac-address=(removed) mac-address-blacklist= mode=infrastructure seen-bssids= ssid=(removed)
[wifi-security] group= key-mgmt=wpa-psk pairwise= proto= psk-flags=1
Here (https://developer.gnome.org/NetworkManager/stable/nm-settings.html#secrets-f...) it says psk-flags=1 0x1 (agent-owned) - a user-session secret agent is responsible for providing and storing this secret; when it is required, agents will be asked to provide it. With KDE i would assume kwallet to be that user-session secret agent. A user can have (at least ?) two wallets to store secrets in.
[ipv4] dns=9.9.9.9; dns-search= ignore-auto-dns=true method=auto
[ipv6] dns-search= method=auto
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