[opensuse] KDE4 Remoting: Fantastic!
I use remote desktop connections all the time at work, because we're commercial Windows software developers. At home, however, I've always used a rather clumsy KVM switch to change from my Linux hardware to my Windows hardware. One of the disappointments has been that doing so switched the audio output as well, interrupting whatever I was listening to whenever I've needed to work with both machines. Recently curiosity got the best of me, and I tried the new KDE4 remoting component. (Until I did, I didn't realize it would work with an RDP connection as well.) I set up a connection to my XP-Pro machine in an unused KDE desktop, and it's worked flawlessly. Now I can change from Linux session to XP-Pro session with a single mouse click, making it much easier to work with both machines at the same time - which I often do. Furthermore, it supports bringing the remote audio to the local machine, so I can start Windows Media Player and select an album I want to hear, and can listen without interruption as I change from one session to the other. I'm really impressed. If I don't encounter any problems with it, I'm thinking of getting rid of the KVM entirely, and clearing up the clutter on my desk. I thought some others here might appreciate knowing about it as well. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Jerry Houston wrote:
I use remote desktop connections all the time at work, because we're commercial Windows software developers. At home, however, I've always used a rather clumsy KVM switch to change from my Linux hardware to my Windows hardware. One of the disappointments has been that doing so switched the audio output as well, interrupting whatever I was listening to whenever I've needed to work with both machines.
Remote desktop has been part of Linux & Unix for many years. I regularly use XDMCP for remote access, even from work. Then there's VNC and RDC has been there a while too. -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Jerry Houston wrote:
Furthermore, it supports bringing the remote audio to the local machine, so I can start Windows Media Player and select an album I want to hear, and can listen without interruption as I change from one session to the other. Is Windows better for listening to music ?
Kind regards Philippe -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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Jerry Houston wrote:
I use remote desktop connections all the time at work, because we're commercial Windows software developers. At home, however, I've always used a rather clumsy KVM switch to change from my Linux hardware to my Windows hardware. One of the disappointments has been that doing so switched the audio output as well, interrupting whatever I was listening to whenever I've needed to work with both machines.
That's why I've always used 2 sets of flat-panels when I use a KVM switch. (In other words, I don't set it up as a KVMS switch). -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
--- Aaron Kulkis
Jerry Houston wrote:
I use remote desktop connections all the time at work, because we're commercial Windows software developers. At home, however, I've always used a rather clumsy KVM switch to change from my Linux hardware to my Windows hardware. One of the disappointments has been that doing so switched the audio output as well, interrupting whatever I was listening to whenever I've needed to work with both machines.
That's why I've always used 2 sets of flat-panels when I use a KVM switch. (In other words, I don't set it up as a KVMS switch).
My solutions to the above: -- I use a simple hot key to switch between my two machines at home and a small box at my work station with opush buttons to toggle between four machines. -- And at home that is why I have two sets of speakers... sw -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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Jerry Houston wrote:
I use remote desktop connections all the time at work, because we're commercial Windows software developers. At home, however, I've always used a rather clumsy KVM switch to change from my Linux hardware to my Windows hardware. One of the disappointments has been that doing so switched the audio output as well, interrupting whatever I was listening to whenever I've needed to work with both machines.
That's why I've always used 2 sets of flat-panels when I use a KVM switch. (In other words, I don't set it up as a KVMS switch).
My solutions to the above: -- I use a simple hot key to switch between my two machines at home and a small box at my work station with opush buttons to toggle between four machines. -- And at home that is why I have two sets of speakers... sw -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sun, January 13, 2008 10:58 am, Jerry Houston wrote:
I use remote desktop connections all the time at work, because we're commercial Windows software developers. At home, however, I've always used a rather clumsy KVM switch to change from my Linux hardware to my Windows hardware. One of the disappointments has been that doing so switched the audio output as well, interrupting whatever I was listening to whenever I've needed to work with both machines.
Whew! You scared me there for a second. In my world, the term "remoting" refers to any variation on OLE or COM or COM+ or .NET remote object instantiation. Yeah, RDC is a great tool. I've been using it for awhile now... http://www.perfectreign.com/stuff/remote.jpg http://www.perfectreign.com/stuff/2007/20071101_rdc_vista.jpg I currently have four computers on my desk at work - openSUSE, XP, Vista. I use RDC to get to them all. Not to mention my Win2003 workstations. Enjoy! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
PerfectReign wrote:
On Sun, January 13, 2008 10:58 am, Jerry Houston wrote:
I use remote desktop connections all the time at work, because we're commercial Windows software developers. At home, however, I've always used a rather clumsy KVM switch to change from my Linux hardware to my Windows hardware. One of the disappointments has been that doing so switched the audio output as well, interrupting whatever I was listening to whenever I've needed to work with both machines.
Whew! You scared me there for a second.
In my world, the term "remoting" refers to any variation on OLE or COM or COM+ or .NET remote object instantiation.
Yeah, RDC is a great tool. I've been using it for awhile now...
http://www.perfectreign.com/stuff/remote.jpg
http://www.perfectreign.com/stuff/2007/20071101_rdc_vista.jpg
I currently have four computers on my desk at work - openSUSE, XP, Vista. I use RDC to get to them all. Not to mention my Win2003 workstations.
Enjoy!
Kai, on a sidenote. I saw that you have a visio icon on your Linux desktop. How do you run visio on Linux? Thanks much a kind regards Eberhard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 14 January 2008 19:50:07 Eberhard Roloff wrote: [...]
Kai,
on a sidenote. I saw that you have a visio icon on your Linux desktop.
How do you run visio on Linux?
Thanks much a kind regards Eberhard
Visio runs OK under CrossOver Office (a commercial version of wine) - see www.codeweavers.com. Support wasn't perfect around version 4 (of Crossover), but I no longer have my Visio install disk so I haven't been able to test it with recent versions (currently up to 6.2). It is optimised for running MS Office - it can be quite useful to run Excel and Word "natively" on Linux at times... Regards, Rodney. -- =================================================== Rodney Baker VK5ZTV rodney.baker@optusnet.com.au =================================================== -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Rodney Baker wrote:
On Monday 14 January 2008 19:50:07 Eberhard Roloff wrote: [...]
Kai,
on a sidenote. I saw that you have a visio icon on your Linux desktop.
How do you run visio on Linux?
Thanks much a kind regards Eberhard
Visio runs OK under CrossOver Office (a commercial version of wine) - see www.codeweavers.com. Support wasn't perfect around version 4 (of Crossover), but I no longer have my Visio install disk so I haven't been able to test it with recent versions (currently up to 6.2).
Thanks much, Rodney. I knew that cxoffice works great to make MS Office working on Linux. I was not aware that this applies for visio, as well. It is optimised for running MS
Office - it can be quite useful to run Excel and Word "natively" on Linux at times...
Indeed. However from a financial perspective, that means basically that you will need to add the crossover office license fee to the MS-Office premium. So imho the financial benefit of using Linux is kind of minimized against using the windows version that came with the machine. kind regards Eberhard
Regards, Rodney.
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On Mon, January 14, 2008 4:10 am, Eberhard Roloff wrote:
Rodney Baker wrote:
On Monday 14 January 2008 19:50:07 Eberhard Roloff wrote: [...]
Kai,
on a sidenote. I saw that you have a visio icon on your Linux desktop.
How do you run visio on Linux?
Thanks much a kind regards Eberhard
Visio runs OK under CrossOver Office (a commercial version of wine) - see www.codeweavers.com. Support wasn't perfect around version 4 (of Crossover), but I no longer have my Visio install disk so I haven't been able to test it with recent versions (currently up to 6.2).
Thanks much, Rodney. I knew that cxoffice works great to make MS Office working on Linux. I was not aware that this applies for visio, as well.
Visio is one of the few applications I cannot do without and for which I find no good Linux equivilant (KVivio, OpenOffice). I admit, I haven't tried Dia (http://live.gnome.org/Dia) but should. http://www.perfectreign.com/stuff/suse/visio_suse.jpg In fact, I just taught my wife last night to use Visio to develop some diagrams for a presentation she's doing to a school district. It is so brain-dead simple yet powerful. (I've been using it since version 3.0 before MS bought it in 2000.)
It is optimised for running MS
Office - it can be quite useful to run Excel and Word "natively" on Linux at times...
Indeed.
Yes, you can run Excel and the all-important Outlook, and my other must-have, Project, if necessary. Project: http://www.perfectreign.com/stuff/suse/cx_project.jpg Visio: http://www.perfectreign.com/stuff/suse/2006/visio2002_on_nix.jpg mIRC: http://www.perfectreign.com/stuff/mirc_linux.jpg Outlook: http://www.perfectreign.com/stuff/outlook_save.jpg
However from a financial perspective, that means basically that you will need to add the crossover office license fee to the MS-Office premium.
So imho the financial benefit of using Linux is kind of minimized against using the windows version that came with the machine.
Yes, you must pay for both the MS Office license (which you may have already) and the CX Office license. For me, it was relatively painless, since I am an MSDN Universal subscriber. I get the Office versions as part of the package. I just had to pay for CXOffice. Once my company finally gets on to version 2003 of Exchange (we're on 5.5 with a 1.8TB database) then I'll migrate to Evolution or some other mail application. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
PerfectReign wrote:
Visio is one of the few applications I cannot do without and for which I find no good Linux equivilant (KVivio, OpenOffice). I admit, I haven't tried Dia (http://live.gnome.org/Dia) but should.
http://www.perfectreign.com/stuff/suse/visio_suse.jpg
In fact, I just taught my wife last night to use Visio to develop some diagrams for a presentation she's doing to a school district. It is so brain-dead simple yet powerful. (I've been using it since version 3.0 before MS bought it in 2000.)
Yes, you can run Excel and the all-important Outlook, and my other must-have, Project, if necessary.
Project: http://www.perfectreign.com/stuff/suse/cx_project.jpg
Visio: http://www.perfectreign.com/stuff/suse/2006/visio2002_on_nix.jpg
Great! OTOH: Good god, while this is surely impressive, what is the real reason you are using Linux? regards Eberhard
Once my company finally gets on to version 2003 of Exchange (we're on 5.5 with a 1.8TB database) then I'll migrate to Evolution or some other mail application.
Ok, then you are migrating one by one. That answers (a small part of) the question. EbR -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Mon, January 14, 2008 7:32 am, Eberhard Roloff wrote:
Great! OTOH: Good god, while this is surely impressive, what is the real reason you are using Linux?
Simple - because Linux sucks less than Windows. :P Seriously, I only use Project and Visio about once a month. It is just that - when I need them, I must have them. The rest of the time, I'm in Firefox, KNode, Netbeans, Amarok, Digikam, Pidgin, and XMame. (However, my son would have you believe I use XMoto all the time!) I've been pretty much disappointed with Windows since about '94. It is just that my career path keeps me in the Windows area. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
PerfectReign wrote:
Yes, you can run Excel and the all-important Outlook, and my other must-have, Project, if necessary.
Just curious, why would you run ms project under wine, when you could run open project natively? Have you tried it? http://openproj.org/openproj Joe -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Mon, January 14, 2008 9:17 am, Joe Sloan wrote:
PerfectReign wrote:
Yes, you can run Excel and the all-important Outlook, and my other must-have, Project, if necessary.
Just curious, why would you run ms project under wine, when you could run open project natively? Have you tried it?
Joe, that would be very cool. I hadn't heard of it prior. I just tried downloading it, however, to test on a project file I just updated. Unfortunately, I got a nasty Java error. I ran it from the cli as superuser to see what the error was... jabba:/home/kai # openproj Java auto-detection... Checking /usr/lib/jvm/jre/bin/java Java version: 1.5.0_13 OK Java implementation: Java(TM) OK Java OK Could not create the Java virtual machine. Any ideas? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
PerfectReign wrote:
On Mon, January 14, 2008 9:17 am, Joe Sloan wrote:
PerfectReign wrote:
Yes, you can run Excel and the all-important Outlook, and my other must-have, Project, if necessary. Just curious, why would you run ms project under wine, when you could run open project natively? Have you tried it?
Joe, that would be very cool. I hadn't heard of it prior. I just tried downloading it, however, to test on a project file I just updated. Unfortunately, I got a nasty Java error. I ran it from the cli as superuser to see what the error was...
jabba:/home/kai # openproj Java auto-detection... Checking /usr/lib/jvm/jre/bin/java Java version: 1.5.0_13 OK Java implementation: Java(TM) OK Java OK Could not create the Java virtual machine.
Any ideas?
hmm that's odd - is this some sort of virtual machine or something? Joe -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Mon, January 14, 2008 12:39 pm, Joe Sloan wrote:
PerfectReign wrote:
On Mon, January 14, 2008 9:17 am, Joe Sloan wrote:
PerfectReign wrote:
Yes, you can run Excel and the all-important Outlook, and my other must-have, Project, if necessary. Just curious, why would you run ms project under wine, when you could run open project natively? Have you tried it?
Joe, that would be very cool. I hadn't heard of it prior. I just tried downloading it, however, to test on a project file I just updated. Unfortunately, I got a nasty Java error. I ran it from the cli as superuser to see what the error was...
jabba:/home/kai # openproj Java auto-detection... Checking /usr/lib/jvm/jre/bin/java Java version: 1.5.0_13 OK Java implementation: Java(TM) OK Java OK Could not create the Java virtual machine.
Any ideas?
hmm that's odd - is this some sort of virtual machine or something?
Unknown. I'll spend a bit more time playing with it tonight. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
PerfectReign wrote:
jabba:/home/kai # openproj Java auto-detection... Checking /usr/lib/jvm/jre/bin/java Java version: 1.5.0_13 OK Java implementation: Java(TM) OK Java OK Could not create the Java virtual machine.
Any ideas? hmm that's odd - is this some sort of virtual machine or something?
Unknown. I'll spend a bit more time playing with it tonight.
You don't know whether you've installed it on a real machine or a virtual machine? Joe -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Mon, January 14, 2008 1:39 pm, Joe Sloan wrote:
PerfectReign wrote:
jabba:/home/kai # openproj Java auto-detection... Checking /usr/lib/jvm/jre/bin/java Java version: 1.5.0_13 OK Java implementation: Java(TM) OK Java OK Could not create the Java virtual machine.
Any ideas? hmm that's odd - is this some sort of virtual machine or something?
Unknown. I'll spend a bit more time playing with it tonight.
You don't know whether you've installed it on a real machine or a virtual machine?
LOL! My apologies. I was thinking of the JVM. Yes, this instance is running on a VMWare session. Let me install on my other workstation. Need to install java on that one. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
PerfectReign wrote:
Not to mention my Win2003 workstations.
Yes, some things are best left unsaid. ;-) -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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