Ok dude, but that was not my trouble, i've had an XF40 running right on my machine, i was answering to another guy on the list :) Eric Maryniak wrote:

Hello Francisco,

At 2000-05-09 11:50, you wrote:

not me, sure :)

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I have a graphics card for which SuperProbe gives the following info:

S3 Trio 3D/2X (PCI Probed) Memory : 8192 kbytes RAMDAC : Generic 8-bit pseudo-color DAC (with 6-bit wide lookup tables (or in 6-bit mode))

I downloaded and installed the XFree 4.0 from the XFree.org site. But I can't find Trio 3D/2X in the graphics device choices, even though I ...

I had problems with XFree86 3.3.6 as well, but managed to solve them, and I would advice not using XFree86 4.0 unless you _really_ have to. Please find below a snip from my personal "howto-install-suse" regarding the trio 3d/2x setup...

Good luck, Eric Maryniak

Surely, Moritz Lennert will apreciate your advice, i've configure both, a voodoo III 3000 and an ATI ALL IN WONDER PRO (mach64) without major troubles with XFree86 4.0. I was using XFree86 4.0 (installed from the sources) because i'm very interested on the DRI possibilities, by now i've returned to 3.3.x simply because i've done the mandatory (for me at least) six months fresh reinstall in my main home computer (i do this things only in workstations because is the fastest and easiest way for me to clean my machine of trash). Surely, i'll return to XFree86 4.0 along this weekend in order to continue playing with DRI. Have a good one, :)

---snip 20. X Windows (XFree86) ========================

o Basic configuration

The S3 Trio3D/2X (PCI) card proved to be problematic, even with the newest XFree86 (3.3.6 from January 2000, http://www.suse.de/en/support/xsuse/). After a lot of experimentation, good old 'xf86config' was the only program producing a working /etc/XF86Config (see Appendix). Not even 'sax' or 'isax' (improved SaX) did the job well. Most notably, not all ram was supported (4 Mb instead of the card's 8 Mb), the vertical frequency range should be 50-85 Hz (and not 90 Hz), or you will get a large white block instead of arrow cursor :-/ Oddly enough, you must un-comment the '#VideoRam' entry afterwards.

# xf86config

The complete xf86config log is given in the Appendix. Some bla-bla is skipped (...) and my [EM] comments added. Finally:

# vi /etc/XF86Config

Locate the Section "Device" and uncomment '#VideoRam 4096' (ie. remove '#'), so that it becomes (note: there is also a '#VideoRam 256', leave that):

[---- Begin file (fragment): /etc/XF86Config ----] Section "Device" Identifier "S3 Trio3D/2X" VendorName "Unknown" BoardName "Unknown" VideoRam 4096 # Option "no_accel" # You may enable this if there are timeouts ... # Insert Clocks lines here if appropriate EndSection [------ End file (fragment): /etc/XF86Config ----]

To get better fonts in, eg., Netscape, put any 100dpi before a 75dpi line in /etc/XF86Config in the FontPath lines (twice SuSE Linux 6.3 for :unscaled and normal, even more in SuSE Linux 6.4):

[---- Begin file (fragment): /etc/XF86Config ----] ... FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled" ... FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" ... [------ End file (fragment): /etc/XF86Config ----]

To add support for the wheel of an IntelliMouse mouse, edit the 'Pointer' section: see below "Enabling the wheel mouse".

o Handy X tips

o Toggle resolutions

When running X, you toggle resolutions (eg. from 800x600 to 1024x768) with ctrl-alt-+ (up) or ctrl-alt-- (down) (num lock should be off).

o Starting X

Start X _on the console_ (!) like:

# startx -- -bpp 16 1>$HOME/x.out 2>$HOME/x.err &

And try 24 if possible or 8 (256 colors) if 16 (=64K colors) fails.

o Stopping X

Press ctrl-alt-bsp (control-alt-backspace simultaneously).

o Switching to a character mode terminal and back to X

From X to VT #1 and #3: ctrl-alt-F1 and ctrl-alt-F3 From VT #n back to X : ctrl-alt-F7

o Enabling the wheel mouse. Install package imwheel and edit the "Pointer" section in /etc/XF86Config, the most important option is 'ZAxisMapping':

[---- Begin file (fragment): /etc/XF86Config ----] Section "Pointer" Protocol "IMPS/2" # Change for your mouse type. Device "/dev/psaux" # Change for your device. SampleRate 60 # Omit? Conflict with BaudRate? ZAxisMapping 4 5 # For IntelliMouse wheel mouse support! Buttons 3 # Change for your mouse (eg.: 2) # Emulate3Buttons # Omit, unless 2 buttons. # Emulate3Timeout 200 # Omit, unless 2 buttons. BaudRate 1200 # Omit? Conflict with SampleRate? EndSection [------ End file (fragment): /etc/XF86Config ----]

Read /usr/doc/packages/imwheel/{README,README.SuSE}. Note that the '-k' option is not available, so include startup of imwheel in ~/xinitrc or ~/.xsession:

[---- Begin file (fragment): ~/.xinitrc ----] ... # start some stuff ... # IntelliMouse wheel mouse support. imwheel & # <==== IntelliMouse wheel mouse support <====

# day planer deamon # pland & ...

# finaly start the window manager exec $WINDOWMANAGER

# call failsafe exit 0 [------ End file (fragment): ~/.xinitrc ----]

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[==== Begin dialog: xf86config ====] First specify a mouse protocol type. Choose one from the following list:

1. Microsoft compatible (2-button protocol) 2. Mouse Systems (3-button protocol) 3. Bus Mouse 4. PS/2 Mouse 5. Logitech Mouse (serial, old type, Logitech protocol) 6. Logitech MouseMan (Microsoft compatible) 7. MM Series 8. MM HitTablet 9. Microsoft IntelliMouse 10. Acecad tablet

...

Enter a protocol number: 4

... Do you want to enable Emulate3Buttons? n [EM: because we have a 3-button PS/2 Logitech mouse.]

Now give the full device name that the mouse is connected to, for example /dev/tty00. Just pressing enter will use the default, /dev/mouse.

Mouse device: ... Do you want to use XKB? ... Do you want to enable these bindings for the Alt keys?

You must indicate the horizontal sync range of your monitor. ... hsync in kHz; monitor type with characteristic modes 1 31.5; Standard VGA, 640x480 @ 60 Hz 2 31.5 - 35.1; Super VGA, 800x600 @ 56 Hz 3 31.5, 35.5; 8514 Compatible, 1024x768 @ 87 Hz interlaced (no 800x600) 4 31.5, 35.15, 35.5; Super VGA, 1024x768 @ 87 Hz interlaced, 800x600 @ 56 Hz 5 31.5 - 37.9; Extended Super VGA, 800x600 @ 60 Hz, 640x480 @ 72 Hz 6 31.5 - 48.5; Non-Interlaced SVGA, 1024x768 @ 60 Hz, 800x600 @ 72 Hz 7 31.5 - 57.0; High Frequency SVGA, 1024x768 @ 70 Hz 8 31.5 - 64.3; Monitor that can do 1280x1024 @ 60 Hz 9 31.5 - 82.0; Monitor that can do 1280x1024 @ 76 Hz 10 31.5 - 95.0; Monitor that can do 1280x1024 @ 85 Hz 11 Enter your own horizontal sync range

Enter your choice (1-11): 11 ...

Horizontal sync range: 30-80

You must indicate the vertical sync range of your monitor. You can either select one of the predefined ranges below that correspond to industry- standard monitor types, or give a specific range. For interlaced modes, the number that counts is the high one (e.g. 87 Hz rather than 43 Hz).

1 50-70 2 50-90 3 50-100 4 40-150 5 Enter your own vertical sync range

Enter your choice: 5

Vertical sync range: 50-85

You must now enter a few identification/description strings, namely an identifier, a vendor name, and a model name. Just pressing enter will fill in default names.

The strings are free-form, spaces are allowed. Enter an identifier for your monitor definition: Enter the vendor name of your monitor: Enter the model name of your monitor:

Now we must configure video card specific settings. ... Do you want to look at the card database? y

0 2 the Max MAXColor S3 Trio64V+ S3 Trio64V+ 1 3DLabs Oxygen GMX PERMEDIA 2 2 3DVision-i740 AGP Intel 740 ... 570 S3 Trio32 (generic) S3 Trio32 571 S3 Trio3D S3 Trio3D 572 S3 Trio3D/2X S3 Trio3D ...

Enter a number to choose the corresponding card definition. Press enter for the next page, q to continue configuration.

572

Your selected card definition:

Identifier: S3 Trio3D/2X Chipset: S3 Trio3D Server: XF86_SVGA Do NOT probe clocks or use any Clocks line.

Now you must determine which server to run. Refer to the manpages and other documentation. The following servers are available (they may not all be installed on your system):

1 The XF86_Mono server. This a monochrome server that should work on any VGA-compatible card, in 640x480 (more on some SVGA chipsets). 2 The XF86_VGA16 server. This is a 16-color VGA server that should work on any VGA-compatible card. 3 The XF86_SVGA server. This is a 256 color SVGA server that supports a number of SVGA chipsets. On some chipsets it is accelerated or supports higher color depths. 4 The accelerated servers. These include XF86_S3, XF86_Mach32, XF86_Mach8, XF86_8514, XF86_P9000, XF86_AGX, XF86_W32, XF86_Mach64, XF86_I128 and XF86_S3V.

These four server types correspond to the four different "Screen" sections in XF86Config (vga2, vga16, svga, accel).

5 Choose the server from the card definition, XF86_SVGA.

Which one of these screen types do you intend to run by default (1-5)? 5 ...

Please answer the following question with either 'y' or 'n'. Do you want me to set the symbolic link? y

Do you want to set it in /var/X11R6/bin? y ...

How much video memory do you have on your video card:

1 256K 2 512K 3 1024K 4 2048K 5 4096K 6 Other

Enter your choice: 5

You must now enter a few identification/description strings, namely an identifier, a vendor name, and a model name. Just pressing enter will fill in default names (possibly from a card definition).

Your card definition is S3 Trio3D/2X.

The strings are free-form, spaces are allowed. Enter an identifier for your video card definition: You can simply press enter here if you have a generic card, or want to describe your card with one string. Enter the vendor name of your video card: Enter the model (board) name of your video card:

Especially for accelerated servers, Ramdac, Dacspeed and ClockChip settings or special options may be required in the Device section. ... Just press enter if you don't want a Clockchip setting. What Clockchip setting do you want (1-12)?

For most modern configurations, a Clocks line is neither required or ... You must be root to be able to run X -probeonly now.

The card definition says to NOT probe clocks. Do you want me to run 'X -probeonly' now? n

For each depth, a list of modes (resolutions) is defined. The default resolution that the server will start-up with will be the first listed mode that can be supported by the monitor and card. Currently it is set to:

"640x480" "800x600" "1024x768" "1280x1024" for 8bpp "640x480" "800x600" "1024x768" "1280x1024" for 16bpp "640x480" "800x600" "1024x768" "1280x1024" for 24bpp "640x480" "800x600" "1024x768" for 32bpp

Note that 16, 24 and 32bpp are only supported on a few configurations. Modes that cannot be supported due to monitor or clock constraints will be automatically skipped by the server.

1 Change the modes for 8pp (256 colors) 2 Change the modes for 16bpp (32K/64K colors) 3 Change the modes for 24bpp (24-bit color, packed pixel) 4 Change the modes for 32bpp (24-bit color) 5 The modes are OK, continue.

Enter your choice: 1

Select modes from the following list:

1 "640x400" 2 "640x480" 3 "800x600" 4 "1024x768" 5 "1280x1024" 6 "320x200" 7 "320x240" 8 "400x300" 9 "1152x864" a "1600x1200" b "1800x1400" c "512x384"

Please type the digits corresponding to the modes that you want to select. For example, 432 selects "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480", with a default mode of 1024x768.

Which modes? 432

You can have a virtual screen (desktop), which is screen area that is larger than the physical screen and which is panned by moving the mouse to the edge of the screen. If you don't want virtual desktop at a certain resolution, you cannot have modes listed that are larger. Each color depth can have a differently-sized virtual screen

Please answer the following question with either 'y' or 'n'. Do you want a virtual screen that is larger than the physical screen?n

[EM: do the same (432,n) for modes 2 (16bpp), 3 (24bpp) and 4 (32bpp).] ...

For each depth, a list of modes (resolutions) is defined. The default resolution that the server will start-up with will be the first listed mode that can be supported by the monitor and card. Currently it is set to:

"1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" for 8bpp "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" for 16bpp "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" for 24bpp "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" for 32bpp

Note that 16, 24 and 32bpp are only supported on a few configurations. Modes that cannot be supported due to monitor or clock constraints will be automatically skipped by the server.

1 Change the modes for 8pp (256 colors) 2 Change the modes for 16bpp (32K/64K colors) 3 Change the modes for 24bpp (24-bit color, packed pixel) 4 Change the modes for 32bpp (24-bit color) 5 The modes are OK, continue.

Enter your choice: 5

I am going to write the XF86Config file now. Make sure you don't accidently overwrite a previously configured one.

Shall I write it to /etc/XF86Config? y

[EM: the story does not end here: /etc/XF86Config still ] [EM: needs editing, ref. section 20 "X Windows (XFree86)".]

[====== End dialog: xf86config ====]

---snip -- Eric Maryniak <e.maryniak@pobox.com> Home page: http://pobox.com/~e.maryniak/ University of Amsterdam, Department of Psychology. Tel/Fax: +31 20 5256853/6391656. Internet: http://www.neuromod.org/

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Moritz Lennert wrote:

Thank yopu very much for your tip, it works !

I'm glad :)

The only thing that is still not perfect is that I get this huge mouse cursor, that resembles a greek temple ;-) Any idea what that might be ?

Hmmmm... as i told you, i've no an XFree86 4.0 here now to experiment, but take a look again to your XF86Config at section "input device"/"mouse" and to the doc of XFree86 4.0, there should be a README.mouse file somewhere. If you have installed from rpm try to do a: rpm -ql package_name_for_xfree86_4.0 | grep README.mouse if you have installed from sources just move into the parent directory where you've extracted the sources and try a 'find -name README.mouse'. In any case you even can try to do a 'locate README.mouse' if you've updated your file database (updatedb) after the installation process, there should not be many README.mouse files on your system. There was a manner to change the mouse cursor somewhere out there. Have a good one,

Moritz

At 11:50 9/05/00 +0200, you wrote:

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try to use 'XFree86 -config' and then edit the XF86Config.new file that should be in your home directory and move it into /etc/X11/XF86Config

(may be -configure or something similar instead -config, i've uninstalled XFree86 40 by now and have no chance to test this)

Have a good one,

Moritz Lennert wrote:

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Hello !

I'm running SuSE 6.3 on a Pentium II. I'm running it via loadlin since this is a work computer and windows is still the main OS :-(

I have a graphics card for which SuperProbe gives the following info:

S3 Trio 3D/2X (PCI Probed) Memory : 8192 kbytes RAMDAC : Generic 8-bit pseudo-color DAC (with 6-bit wide lookup tables (or in 6-bit mode))

I downloaded and installed the XFree 4.0 from the XFree.org site. But I can't find Trio 3D/2X in the graphics device choices, even though I read that it is supported in XFree 4.0. Even in the VGA-mode, I don't get anything else running than a color depth 1 (black and white !)

Could someone tell me what I need to do to configure X correctly ?

Thnaks !

Moritz

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try to use 'XFree86 -config' and then edit the XF86Config.new file

should be in your home directory and move it into /etc/X11/XF86Config

(may be -configure or something similar instead -config, i've uninstalled XFree86 40 by now and have no chance to test this)

Have a good one,

Moritz Lennert wrote:

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Hello !

I'm running SuSE 6.3 on a Pentium II. I'm running it via loadlin since this is a work computer and windows is still the main OS :-(

I have a graphics card for which SuperProbe gives the following info:

S3 Trio 3D/2X (PCI Probed) Memory : 8192 kbytes RAMDAC : Generic 8-bit pseudo-color DAC (with 6-bit wide lookup tables (or in 6-bit mode))

I downloaded and installed the XFree 4.0 from the XFree.org site. But I can't find Trio 3D/2X in the graphics device choices, even

-- Francisco M. Marzoa Alonso Nuevo Mundo - Dpto. Informático ICQ#: 62850923 Henri Dunant, 19 - 28036 Madrid tfno: +34 91 343 18 40 ext. 207 España / Spain fax: +34 91 350 28 45 <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> Moritz Lennert wrote: <blockquote TYPE=CITE>Thank yopu very much for your tip, it works !</blockquote> I'm glad :) <blockquote TYPE=CITE>The only thing that is still not perfect is that I get this huge mouse cursor, that resembles a greek temple ;-) Any idea what that might be ?</blockquote> Hmmmm... as i told you, i've no an XFree86 4.0 here now to experiment, but take a look again to your XF86Config at section "input device"/"mouse" and to the doc of XFree86 4.0, there should be a README.mouse file somewhere. If you have installed from rpm try to do a: rpm -ql package_name_for_xfree86_4.0 | grep README.mouse if you have installed from sources just move into the parent directory where you've extracted the sources and try a 'find -name README.mouse'. In any case you even can try to do a 'locate README.mouse' if you've updated your file database (updatedb) after the installation process, there should not be many README.mouse files on your system. There was a manner to change the mouse cursor somewhere out there. Have a good one, <blockquote TYPE=CITE> Moritz At 11:50 9/05/00 +0200, you wrote: that though I

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read that it is supported in XFree 4.0. Even in the VGA-mode, I don't get anything else running than a

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