OK, fair enough - it just read it differently I guess. However, given they are already "Windows on the client" and are used to Outlook, IMHO I do not think trying to move them to a different email/calendaring client will be perceived (by them in the end) as worth the pain. It will just end up being one more "new" think to learn for folks that just want to get their job done. Eudora may or may not be arguably better than Outlook - but not to a group of people already familiar with Outlook. As I say (and I mean the H part), IMHO it is far better to concentrate on a good email/calendaring server solution based on Linux. Let them see the value their, then later you can talk about client software changes if it makes sense. - my US $.02 - Richard BTW, I do not care so much about top/bottom posting - but have been chastised for doing it on this list before. I can understand that it makes it easier for people to read if its done one way or the other, but not both. But its a small matter to me.

-----Original Message----- From: Thinker [mailto:thinker@thoughtprogress.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 10:17 AM To: Richard Mixon (qwest) Subject: Re: [SLE] Email, Calendar, Scheduling, Address Book, synchronization (without Outlook)

Sorry about the top posting Richard. I've never really understood what the problem was with replying to the original message.

As far as the client, he already has Outlook on all of the machines. It came with the Microsoft Office XP that came bundled with the machines.

He was only going to use Outlook, not the Exchange Server. I was the one wondering about a possible Exchange like solution that would be free, not him.

He doesn't have the budget to purchase anything else. I was just trying to find a way to prevent him from using Outlook (by using Eudora, or something else instead) for his email, and finding a solution that would take care of the calendaring and contacts.

.:Thinker

On Aug 17, 2004, at 12:45 PM, Richard Mixon (qwest) wrote:

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Sorry, to top post, continuing your tradition :)

Hmm - this seems strange. Your client was willing to spring for an Exchange solution (M$ has specials on Windows Server 2003 Small Business with Exchange for 5 clients for around $600 according to VAR Business). Obviously anti-virus/anti-spam needs to be added on top of that, as also for Linux. But the Exchange solution, even barebones, is not "close to free."

Not being defensiv here, but why does the Linux solution have to be "close to free"?

- Richard

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Thanks Neal.

I was, however, hoping for a 'lower cost' solution. Lower cost as in a lot closer to free. Something I could just install on a spare machine and let it run; or something I could install on a web server.

Any ideas?

.:Thinker

On Aug 16, 2004, at 10:57 PM, nhaas wrote:

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Open Exchange by SuSE. http://www.suse.com/us/business/products/openexchange/index.html Have a good day

Neal http://www.susehelp.com

-----Original Message----- From: Thinker [mailto:thinker@thoughtprogress.com] Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 3:12 PM To: SuSE List Subject: [SLE] Email, Calendar, Scheduling, Address Book, synchronization (without Outlook)

Hello All,

I have a client with 5 machines/users on a peer to peer network. The only network resource they share is access to the Internet. About an hour ago, he asked me to help him set up email addresses for the 5 people in the office. He visited a friend that has an exchange server and all of the employees are using outlook. He asked me if I could set his office up the same way.

After going over the potential security risks associated with using Exchange and Outlook, I think I finally have him convinced that Outlook/Exchange is a bad idea. He is now giving me the opportunity to come up with more secure alternatives. This is where I need the help.

He wants to be able to open the program or website and schedule a meeting with the people that he needs to attend. Those

Thinker wrote: people should

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in turn receive an email (or whatever notice possible) stating the meeting has been scheduled, who scheduled it and should be allowed to confirm that they will be there.

There should be a universal address book that allows you to associate birthdays and anniversaries with contacts and those birthdays and anniversaries should show up on the calendar.

They already have PCs or laptops which are either running Windows XP or Windows 2000. They have a spare machine that I could install Linux on if need be, but the users will still have to run Windows on their machines.

If there is a web based solution for all of this, they can get the web space if needed. The main thing is, he wants to be able to sync all of this with his Handspring Treo.

Is there such an animal?

.:Thinker

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