KDE is practically dead after latest update
.Hi all, After the latest major update (including kernel 6.9.3) KDE Plasma X11 became unusable on TW. Plasma Wayland is even worse. Fortunately XFCE can be used, though it lso slowed down with long response times to clicking. What happenned? Can somebody help me to figure out? Thanks, Albert /In addition I also lost my microphone, which I would badly need for Zoom/Teams/
On Wed, Jun 5, 2024 at 11:34 AM Albert Oszkó <oszko@chem.u-szeged.hu> wrote:
.Hi all,
After the latest major update (including kernel 6.9.3) KDE Plasma X11 became unusable on TW. Plasma Wayland is even worse. Fortunately XFCE can be used, though it lso slowed down with long response times to clicking.
What happenned? Can somebody help me to figure out?
Are you on AMD?
On Wed, Jun 5, 2024 at 11:38 AM Andrei Borzenkov <arvidjaar@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Jun 5, 2024 at 11:34 AM Albert Oszkó <oszko@chem.u-szeged.hu> wrote:
.Hi all,
After the latest major update (including kernel 6.9.3) KDE Plasma X11 became unusable on TW. Plasma Wayland is even worse. Fortunately XFCE can be used, though it lso slowed down with long response times to clicking.
What happenned? Can somebody help me to figure out?
Are you on AMD?
What is the exact issue? I am on AMD without problems (REBAR enabled on BIOS). Using Wayland.
On Wed, Jun 5, 2024 at 11:57 AM Stratos Zolotas <strzol@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Jun 5, 2024 at 11:38 AM Andrei Borzenkov <arvidjaar@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Jun 5, 2024 at 11:34 AM Albert Oszkó <oszko@chem.u-szeged.hu> wrote:
.Hi all,
After the latest major update (including kernel 6.9.3) KDE Plasma X11 became unusable on TW. Plasma Wayland is even worse. Fortunately XFCE can be used, though it lso slowed down with long response times to clicking.
What happenned? Can somebody help me to figure out?
Are you on AMD?
What is the exact issue? I am on AMD without problems (REBAR enabled on BIOS). Using Wayland.
There were recent reports that kernel 6.9 on some AMD is using just one core. https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1225968
2024. 06. 05. 10:56 keltezéssel, Stratos Zolotas írta:
On Wed, Jun 5, 2024 at 11:38 AM Andrei Borzenkov <arvidjaar@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Jun 5, 2024 at 11:34 AM Albert Oszkó <oszko@chem.u-szeged.hu> wrote:
.Hi all,
After the latest major update (including kernel 6.9.3) KDE Plasma X11 became unusable on TW. Plasma Wayland is even worse. Fortunately XFCE can be used, though it lso slowed down with long response times to clicking.
What happenned? Can somebody help me to figure out?
Are you on AMD? What is the exact issue? I am on AMD without problems (REBAR enabled on BIOS). Using Wayland.
Exact problems? KDE hangs after the first mouse click. The tray has vanished.
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2024. 06. 05. 10:37 keltezéssel, Andrei Borzenkov írta:
On Wed, Jun 5, 2024 at 11:34 AM Albert Oszkó <oszko@chem.u-szeged.hu> wrote:
.Hi all,
After the latest major update (including kernel 6.9.3) KDE Plasma X11 became unusable on TW. Plasma Wayland is even worse. Fortunately XFCE can be used, though it lso slowed down with long response times to clicking.
What happenned? Can somebody help me to figure out?
Are you on AMD?
No, Intel
Hello, In the Message; Subject : KDE is practically dead after latest update Message-ID : <fc45493a-52ca-4402-a1fa-b2c6f4027c6f@chem.u-szeged.hu> Date & Time: Wed, 5 Jun 2024 10:27:36 +0200 [AO] == Albert Oszkó <oszko@chem.u-szeged.hu> has written: AO> .Hi all, AO> After the latest major update (including kernel 6.9.3) KDE Plasma X11 became AO> unusable on TW. Plasma Wayland is even worse. Fortunately XFCE can be used, AO> though it lso slowed down with long response times to clicking. AO> What happenned? Can somebody help me to figure out? [...] AO> /In addition I also lost my microphone, which I would badly need for Zoom/Teams/ Please show the results of; # zypper lr | grep KDE Best Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya mail-to: m.nomiya+suse @ gmail.com ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "Maddox hopes that empowering users to pick their own algorithms will get them to think more about what’s involved in making them. " -- Bluesky's Custom Algorithms Could Be the Future of Social Media --
2024. 06. 05. 12:44 keltezéssel, Masaru Nomiya írta:
Hello,
In the Message;
Subject : KDE is practically dead after latest update Message-ID : <fc45493a-52ca-4402-a1fa-b2c6f4027c6f@chem.u-szeged.hu> Date & Time: Wed, 5 Jun 2024 10:27:36 +0200
[AO] == Albert Oszkó <oszko@chem.u-szeged.hu> has written:
AO> .Hi all,
AO> After the latest major update (including kernel 6.9.3) KDE Plasma X11 became AO> unusable on TW. Plasma Wayland is even worse. Fortunately XFCE can be used, AO> though it lso slowed down with long response times to clicking.
AO> What happenned? Can somebody help me to figure out? [...] AO> /In addition I also lost my microphone, which I would badly need for Zoom/Teams/
Please show the results of;
# zypper lr | grep KDE
Best Regards.
--- ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya mail-to: m.nomiya+suse @ gmail.com ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "Maddox hopes that empowering users to pick their own algorithms will get them to think more about what’s involved in making them. "
-- Bluesky's Custom Algorithms Could Be the Future of Social Media --
zypper lr | grep kde returned nothing
Op woensdag 5 juni 2024 14:06:14 CEST schreef Albert Oszkó:
2024. 06. 05. 12:44 keltezéssel, Masaru Nomiya írta:
Hello,
In the Message;
Subject : KDE is practically dead after latest update Message-ID : <fc45493a-52ca-4402-a1fa-b2c6f4027c6f@chem.u-szeged.hu> Date & Time: Wed, 5 Jun 2024 10:27:36 +0200
[AO] == Albert Oszkó <oszko@chem.u-szeged.hu> has written:
AO> .Hi all,
AO> After the latest major update (including kernel 6.9.3) KDE Plasma X11 became AO> unusable on TW. Plasma Wayland is even worse. Fortunately XFCE can be used, AO> though it lso slowed down with long response times to clicking.
AO> What happenned? Can somebody help me to figure out? [...] AO> /In addition I also lost my microphone, which I would badly need for Zoom/Teams/
Please show the results of;
# zypper lr | grep KDE
Best Regards.
--- ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya mail-to: m.nomiya+suse @ gmail.com ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "Maddox hopes that empowering users to pick their own algorithms will
get them to think more about what’s involved in making them. "
-- Bluesky's Custom Algorithms Could Be the Future of Social Media --
zypper lr | grep kde returned nothing If a new user doesn't have the issue, do rm -rf ~/.config/plasma* as your user
-- Gertjan Lettink a.k.a. Knurpht openSUSE Forums Team openSUSE Mods Team
Hello, In the Message; Subject : Re: KDE is practically dead after latest update Message-ID : <6ad01cfb-630a-4b64-bf91-0815e9c8ab9d@chem.u-szeged.hu> Date & Time: Wed, 5 Jun 2024 14:06:14 +0200 [AO] == Albert Oszkó <oszko@chem.u-szeged.hu> has written: [...] MN> > Please show the results of; MN> > # zypper lr | grep KDE [...] AO> zypper lr | grep kde returned nothing No, kde is uppercase letter, i.e., # zypper lr | grep KDE Best. --- ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya mail-to: m.nomiya @ gmail.com ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "To hire for skills, firms will need to implement robust and intentional changes in their hiring practices — and change is hard." -- Employers don’t practice what they preach on skills-based hiring --
Albert Oszkó composed on 2024-06-05 10:27 (UTC+0200):
After the latest major update (including kernel 6.9.3) KDE Plasma X11 became unusable on TW. Plasma Wayland is even worse. Fortunately XFCE can be used, though it lso slowed down with long response times to clicking.
What happenned? Can somebody help me to figure out?
Smells like this: https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1225968 Since kernel 6.9, applications running on only 1 core https://forums.opensuse.org/t/since-kernel-6-9-running-on-only-1-core/175460 But it's only on AMD CPUs as far as is known. What CPU and GPU do you have? inxi -C inxi -GSaz -- Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion, based on faith, not based on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata
Idézet (Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net>):
Albert Oszkó composed on 2024-06-05 10:27 (UTC+0200):
After the latest major update (including kernel 6.9.3) KDE Plasma X11 became unusable on TW. Plasma Wayland is even worse. Fortunately XFCE can be used, though it lso slowed down with long response times to clicking.
What happenned? Can somebody help me to figure out?
Smells like this: https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1225968 Since kernel 6.9, applications running on only 1 core https://forums.opensuse.org/t/since-kernel-6-9-running-on-only-1-core/175460
But it's only on AMD CPUs as far as is known. What CPU and GPU do you have?
inxi -C inxi -GSaz -- Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion, based on faith, not based on science.
Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!
Felix Miata
Here they are: CPU: Info: dual core model: Intel Core i7-6500U bits: 64 type: MT MCP cache: L2: 512 KiB Speed (MHz): avg: 2999 min/max: 400/3100 cores: 1: 3000 2: 3000 3: 3000 4: 2999 System: Kernel: 6.9.3-1-default arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 13.3.0 clocksource: tsc avail: hpet,acpi_pm parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.9.3-1-default root=UUID=37990d74-d032-4f25-92d6-c5c8386d5583 splash=silent mitigations=auto quiet nosimplefb=1 Desktop: Xfce v: 4.18.1 tk: Gtk v: 3.24.41 wm: xfwm4 v: 4.18.0 with: xfce4-panel tools: avail: i3lock,xscreensaver vt: 2 dm: SDDM Distro: openSUSE Tumbleweed 20240531 Graphics: Device-1: Intel Skylake GT2 [HD Graphics 520] vendor: ASUSTeK driver: i915 v: kernel arch: Gen-9 process: Intel 14n built: 2015-16 ports: active: eDP-1 empty: HDMI-A-1 bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:1916 class-ID: 0300 Device-2: NVIDIA GM107M [GeForce GTX 950M] vendor: ASUSTeK driver: N/A alternate: nouveau, nvidia_drm, nvidia non-free: 545.xx+ status: current (as of 2024-04; EOL~2026-12-xx) arch: Maxwell code: GMxxx process: TSMC 28nm built: 2014-2019 pcie: gen: 3 speed: 8 GT/s lanes: 4 link-max: lanes: 16 bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:139a class-ID: 0302 Device-3: Realtek USB2.0 VGA UVC WebCam driver: uvcvideo type: USB rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 bus-ID: 1-6:3 chip-ID: 0bda:57ed class-ID: 0e02 serial: <filter> Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 21.1.12 with: Xwayland v: 24.1.0 compositor: xfwm4 v: 4.18.0 driver: X: loaded: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa alternate: intel dri: iris gpu: i915 display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1 Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1920x1080 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 508x285mm (20.00x11.22") s-diag: 582mm (22.93") Monitor-1: eDP-1 model: ChiMei InnoLux 0x15c4 built: 2013 res: 1920x1080 hz: 60 dpi: 142 gamma: 1.2 size: 344x193mm (13.54x7.6") diag: 394mm (15.5") ratio: 16:9 modes: 1920x1080 API: EGL v: 1.5 hw: drv: intel iris platforms: device: 0 drv: iris device: 1 drv: swrast gbm: drv: iris surfaceless: drv: iris x11: drv: iris inactive: wayland API: OpenGL v: 4.6 compat-v: 4.5 vendor: intel mesa v: 24.0.8 glx-v: 1.4 direct-render: yes renderer: Mesa Intel HD Graphics 520 (SKL GT2) device-ID: 8086:1916 memory: 7.47 GiB unified: yes API: Vulkan v: 1.3.283 layers: 1 device: 0 type: integrated-gpu name: Intel HD Graphics 520 (SKL GT2) driver: N/A device-ID: 8086:1916 surfaces: xcb,xlib ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Hello, In the Message; Subject : KDE is practically dead after latest update Message-ID : <fc45493a-52ca-4402-a1fa-b2c6f4027c6f@chem.u-szeged.hu> Date & Time: Wed, 5 Jun 2024 10:27:36 +0200 [AO] == Albert Oszkó <oszko@chem.u-szeged.hu> has written: AO> .Hi all, AO> After the latest major update (including kernel 6.9.3) KDE Plasma X11 became AO> unusable on TW. Plasma Wayland is even worse. Fortunately XFCE can be used, AO> though it lso slowed down with long response times to clicking. AO> What happenned? Can somebody help me to figure out? [...] This would solve your plasma6 issue; 1 start YaST2 as root. 2. select View panel, then patterns 3. select "KDE Plasma 6 Desktop" item 4. select Dependencies Tab, then "Check Now" 6. push Accept button then proceed to Plasma6 login. AO> /In addition I also lost my microphone, which I would badly need for Zoom/Teams/ Please show the results of; 1. $ rpm -qa *pipewire* 2. $ pactl info Best Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya mail-to: m.nomiya+suse @ gmail.com ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "Loyalty cards are a symbol of "spending" not "saving"... I saved 20,000 yen a month when I stopped "act of collecting points"" -- Shihomi Shimomura --
2024. 06. 06. 6:47 keltezéssel, Masaru Nomiya írta:
Hello,
In the Message;
Subject : KDE is practically dead after latest update Message-ID :<fc45493a-52ca-4402-a1fa-b2c6f4027c6f@chem.u-szeged.hu> Date & Time: Wed, 5 Jun 2024 10:27:36 +0200
[AO] == Albert Oszkó<oszko@chem.u-szeged.hu> has written:
AO> .Hi all,
AO> After the latest major update (including kernel 6.9.3) KDE Plasma X11 became AO> unusable on TW. Plasma Wayland is even worse. Fortunately XFCE can be used, AO> though it lso slowed down with long response times to clicking.
AO> What happenned? Can somebody help me to figure out? [...]
This would solve your plasma6 issue;
1 start YaST2 as root.
2. select View panel, then patterns
3. select "KDE Plasma 6 Desktop" item
4. select Dependencies Tab, then "Check Now"
6. push Accept button
then proceed to Plasma6 login.
AO> /In addition I also lost my microphone, which I would badly need for Zoom/Teams/
Please show the results of;
1. $ rpm -qa *pipewire*
2. $ pactl info
Best Regards.
--- ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya mail-to: m.nomiya+suse @ gmail.com ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "Loyalty cards are a symbol of "spending" not "saving"... I saved 20,000 yen a month when I stopped "act of collecting points"" -- Shihomi Shimomura --
Sorry for the late answer, I was away for a while. rpm -qa *pipewire*: libpipewire-0_3-0-32bit-1.0.7-1.1.x86_64 kpipewire-imports-5.27.11-1.2.x86_64 kpipewire6-imports-6.0.5-1.1.x86_64 pipewire-modules-0_3-1.0.7-1.1.x86_64 libpipewire-0_3-0-1.0.7-1.1.x86_64 pipewire-spa-tools-1.0.7-1.1.x86_64 pipewire-spa-plugins-0_2-32bit-1.0.7-1.1.x86_64 pipewire-1.0.7-1.1.x86_64 pipewire-lang-1.0.7-1.1.noarch pipewire-pulseaudio-1.0.7-1.1.x86_64 pipewire-tools-1.0.7-1.1.x86_64 pipewire-modules-0_3-32bit-1.0.7-1.1.x86_64 pipewire-alsa-32bit-1.0.7-1.1.x86_64 pipewire-spa-plugins-0_2-1.0.7-1.1.x86_64 pactl info: Server String: /run/user/1000/pulse/native Library Protocol Version: 35 Server Protocol Version: 35 Is Local: yes Client Index: 1014 Tile Size: 65472 User Name: berci Host Name: 20014C4C21DB5F000000000000001000.catv.pool.telekom.hu Server Name: PulseAudio (on PipeWire 1.0.7) Server Version: 15.0.0 Default Sample Specification: float32le 2ch 48000Hz Default Channel Map: front-left,front-right Default Sink: alsa_output.pci-0000_00_1f.3.analog-stereo Default Source: alsa_input.pci-0000_00_1f.3.analog-stereo Cookie: f732:6ff9 BTW in the weekend I tried to do something with my microphone in Zoom/Teams. I did not succeed. I tried in Xfce Firefox, Vivaldi, and then Chrome (it was a bit tricky to get it to work). Then I reanimated my little old Win10 laptop. I tried Firefox, Chrome and Opera. Did not work. The only config that worked was MS Edge and Teams. I did not like it. Cheers
Hello, In the Message; Subject : Re: KDE is practically dead after latest update Message-ID : <95dae415-98ee-46b9-bf2d-f1563a74310d@chem.u-szeged.hu> Date & Time: Mon, 10 Jun 2024 15:57:37 +0200 [AO] == Albert Oszkó <oszko@chem.u-szeged.hu> has written: AO> [1 <text/plain; UTF-8 (8bit)>] [..] AO> Sorry for the late answer, I was away for a while. AO> rpm -qa *pipewire*: AO> libpipewire-0_3-0-32bit-1.0.7-1.1.x86_64 AO> kpipewire-imports-5.27.11-1.2.x86_64 AO> kpipewire6-imports-6.0.5-1.1.x86_64 AO> pipewire-modules-0_3-1.0.7-1.1.x86_64 AO> libpipewire-0_3-0-1.0.7-1.1.x86_64 AO> pipewire-spa-tools-1.0.7-1.1.x86_64 AO> pipewire-spa-plugins-0_2-32bit-1.0.7-1.1.x86_64 AO> pipewire-1.0.7-1.1.x86_64 AO> pipewire-lang-1.0.7-1.1.noarch AO> pipewire-pulseaudio-1.0.7-1.1.x86_64 AO> pipewire-tools-1.0.7-1.1.x86_64 AO> pipewire-modules-0_3-32bit-1.0.7-1.1.x86_64 AO> pipewire-alsa-32bit-1.0.7-1.1.x86_64 AO> pipewire-spa-plugins-0_2-1.0.7-1.1.x86_64 AO> pactl info: AO> Server String: /run/user/1000/pulse/native AO> Library Protocol Version: 35 AO> Server Protocol Version: 35 AO> Is Local: yes AO> Client Index: 1014 AO> Tile Size: 65472 AO> User Name: berci AO> Host Name: 20014C4C21DB5F000000000000001000.catv.pool.telekom.hu AO> Server Name: PulseAudio (on PipeWire 1.0.7) AO> Server Version: 15.0.0 AO> Default Sample Specification: float32le 2ch 48000Hz AO> Default Channel Map: front-left,front-right AO> Default Sink: alsa_output.pci-0000_00_1f.3.analog-stereo AO> Default Source: alsa_input.pci-0000_00_1f.3.analog-stereo AO> Cookie: f732:6ff9 No problem. AO> BTW in the weekend I tried to do something with my microphone in AO> Zoom/Teams. I did not succeed. I tried in Xfce Firefox, Vivaldi, AO> and then Chrome (it was a bit tricky to get it to work). Then I AO> reanimated my little old Win10 laptop. I tried Firefox, Chrome AO> and Opera. Did not work. The only config that worked was MS Edge AO> and Teams. I did not like it. It is just that the microphone is not recognized. The pavucontrol-qt will solve your issue. Please install pavucontrol-qt-2.0.0-1.1.x86_64.rpm. After this, you should start pavucontrol-qt, open the "input Devices" panel, turn on the microphone, and that should solve your problem. Best Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya mail-to: m.nomiya+suse @ gmail.com ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "To hire for skills, firms will need to implement robust and intentional changes in their hiring practices — and change is hard." -- Employers don’t practice what they preach on skills-based hiring --
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